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HaysoosKreesto
#151
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what competition this car has? I am trying to think of some but all I can think about is v6's (and quite possibly the RX-7).

I am just curious if this car has any real competition aside from the 216a coming from Subie, which of course is the same car.
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SwissFerdi
#152
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QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Apr 25, 2010 - 7:18 AM) *
>Out of curiosity, does anyone know what competition this car has? I am trying to think of some but all I can think about is v6's (and quite possibly the RX-7).

I am just curious if this car has any real competition aside from the 216a coming from Subie, which of course is the same car.


It doesn't, technically, which is why I'm so excited for it. There are plenty of FR coupes out there, but there are no FMR coupes (to my knowledge), so Toyota would basically be creating a niche...an MX-5 in coupe form, from Toyota...a Toyota that will hopefully be called Celica.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Apr 25, 2010 - 12:45 PM
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richee3
#153
Solstice coupe, V6 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger. Even though it's a 'vert, I'm sure the MX5 is considered competition for the FT-86.

Or if it does become the new Solara, then I guess the Accord coupe is competition.

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HectortheRican
#155
A more subtle wing, same pearl white with no G's stickers and same CF hood.... MMMMMMMM SEXY
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easternpiro1
#156
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QUOTE (saleeka @ Jul 26, 2010 - 11:40 AM) *
>The latest "news" involving the car:

FT-86 development on track, expected Nov. 2011




ok... now that im off the emotional roller coaster after reading those last few posts for now, what turbo engine will they be aiming for with do you guys think? will subaru keep the turbo motor for themselves in their edition? im still screaming 4th gen for their turbo version, but fat chance for that....
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Bigblock
#157
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Hanyo
#158
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Apr 25, 2010 - 1:12 PM) *
>Solstice coupe, V6 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger. Even though it's a 'vert, I'm sure the MX5 is considered competition for the FT-86.

Or if it does become the new Solara, then I guess the Accord coupe is competition.



The competitions for this car is going to be based solely on the price range, and not based on front engine rear wheel drive plate form.

For instance would you rather have a (used) track edition of the 370z with brembo brake package for the same price as an entry level ft86? What ever toyota sets the price and trim levels for the ft86 would determine its competition.

If they set the price to high it will be competition against well equipped v6 camaro and mustangs. If they set the fully equipped model price even higher it will be fighting for the same markets as 370z and wrx sti / lancers evo. If they price it lower it will be in the same market as a well equiped honda civic Si and mazda3 even though these cars are fwd.

It really boils down to the idea " for the same money would you rather buy a Car A over Car B." Until we know the exact price and performance sheet its hard to tell if this car is worth all the hype.
easternpiro1
#159
that makes sense hanyo, and speaking of which, when they set the price im wondering what payments are going to be like (im sure rediculous) i was talking with my boss the other day about buying a new car. he told me his rule of thumb was to add 200 dollars for every 10k the car cost. So if a car is 30k youre looking at a $600 per month payment, i said what about credit and down payment? he said it dosent matter nowadays... kinda put a dampening on my plans for it (or any new car for that matter)
ive always saved and bought a used car never liked the payment thing, but was willing to do it for an ft!

back on topic though: i agree with hanyo, im thinking the turbo edition will be priced to compete with the 370z and evo's and sti's.
QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
Hanyo
#160
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Aug 1, 2010 - 6:01 PM) *
>that makes sense hanyo, and speaking of which, when they set the price im wondering what payments are going to be like (im sure rediculous) i was talking with my boss the other day about buying a new car. he told me his rule of thumb was to add 200 dollars for every 10k the car cost. So if a car is 30k youre looking at a $600 per month payment, i said what about credit and down payment? he said it dosent matter nowadays... kinda put a dampening on my plans for it (or any new car for that matter)
ive always saved and bought a used car never liked the payment thing, but was willing to do it for an ft!

back on topic though: i agree with hanyo, im thinking the turbo edition will be priced to compete with the 370z and evo's and sti's.



it should not be too bad. just like any other car loan. The larger the down payment and the longer the term the lower the monthly payment will be. For example: lets say the car is $26k out the door. For your average 5 year loan without a down payment would be around 550 bucks a month. Lets say you put down $10k at the time of purchase your monthly payment is gonna be $340. You can also get loans from different banks and longer car loan time which can affect your monthly payment. If you want to play around with numbers you can go to this website : Car loan calculator

I'm just waiting on Toyota to release the specs sheet to see if this car is worth all the fuss.
block
#162
looks good. i do LOVE the hood and the wideness of the body. it does mention interchangabililty, which is nice smile.gif
Supersprynt
#163
That's an artists rendition, and may not look accurate. I'm talking about the 260hp motor, and not the wimpy 200(ish)hp motor the Toyota will have.
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block
#164
this is just too sexy.


200 or 260, it doesn't matter. i just hope there's an optional turbo motor. at this point, everything looks good.

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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 9, 2010 - 8:18 PM) *
>That's an artists rendition, and may not look accurate. I'm talking about the 260hp motor, and not the wimpy 200(ish)hp motor the Toyota will have.


yeah, it may look even uglier. can't wait to see the subaru concept though.
celicaboston1983
#165
why do i have a hunch that this car is gonna be a little pricer
Keiri
#166
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QUOTE (celicaboston1983 @ Aug 9, 2010 - 10:20 PM) *
>why do i have a hunch that this car is gonna be a little pricer


Because you'd be following the same train of thought most of the automotive world is having about this car.

I think for around 25k loaded I will happily bite if the power/weight ratio is good; anything higher priced will need to bring some serious benefits or it's bye-bye birdy.
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Supersprynt
#167
Projected 25 base.
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easternpiro1
#170
im still praying that toyota dosent screw the pooch on this one... im thinkin theyre gonna gheyify it.

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
Random_Stranger
#171
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Oct 9, 2010 - 9:29 PM) *
>im still praying that toyota dosent screw the pooch on this one... im thinkin theyre gonna gheyify it.



Like Solarafy it? Gawd, I hope not. Oh Lawd....
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easternpiro1
#172
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QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Oct 10, 2010 - 2:38 AM) *
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Oct 9, 2010 - 9:29 PM) *
>im still praying that toyota dosent screw the pooch on this one... im thinkin theyre gonna gheyify it.



Like Solarafy it? Gawd, I hope not. Oh Lawd....



EXACTLY. i joined an ft86 ethusiast forum for some more news and whats interesting is that i never saw mention of them solarifying it. THANK GOD.


im going to sound like a broken record but they REALLY need a turbo option.


3sgte JUST went out of production 3 years ago. PUT IT IN.
but truth be told, i'm just happy theyre trying to make waves in the import world. toyota is VERY abscent.
QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
Shigexile
#173
i'm sorry if i make someone mad with this post but it seems like toyota did it again by changing things up at the last second.

the ft-86 is most likely gonna be called toyota fr-s. The looks have changed and looks a bit worse. Toyota decided to go for a more "italian" look. My sources come from reading a magazine called holiday auto at my local japanese store. I did not read the whole article but it seems that toyota is likely gonna go to production with this style.


and my friend in japan is hearing rumors about a 4door version of this as well...
i like the original design better and wish they will go back. This current one looks kinda of like the hyundai genesis.
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easternpiro1
#174
DAMN! I heard about that 4 door rumor and the front end change!! UGH!!!! i also heard about the name change, but i thought it was subaru doing that... i cant remember the forum i joined. will try to post a link to it later....

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Oct 11, 2010 - 12:52 AM
QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
SleekCelica
#176
oh well, you really can't expect anything good from toyota anymore. This is why we need to keep our celica's alive, and swap moar powerful engines into them, and build them up.
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#177
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HectortheRican
#178
I really hope Toyota never decides to remake the Supra. Knowing them, they'll redesign and redesign until it looks like an EK hatch or the Evo wagon.
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samir0189
#179
:facepalm:

well they made it a sedan ... all they have to do now is put the prius hybrid engine in there and convert it to fwd rolleyes.gif great job, mr. toyoda.
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easternpiro1
#180
i agree! see the thing is that toyota is being strategic with their moves... what their strategy is.... IDK...

So YOU toyota recieve this:
QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
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