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It almost certainly will be released under the Toyota marque not Scion or Lexus as that was the intention from the start. And the low HP is partly to get good numbers for emmissions and mileage figures. They are talking around 180hp, 35mpg and a $22k pricemark. 35mpg and $22k are both pretty good for a sports compact.
A low price tag for the entry model could still allow room for a convertible or GT4 version at around the $35k price mark, which I would like very much.
And as for the engine - the original deal was that Subaru would make the chassis and transmission, with Toyota providing the auxillary systems (most notably the brakes) and initial styling. The engine is a joint venture between the two companies and is a D-4S (not C-45 as reported elsewhere).
It is expected that the Subaru version of the car won't be significantly different in body panels to the Toyota version (kinda like Curren vs Celica) - expect different head and tail lights and a different hood. Part of the reason for this is to ensure that a healthy 3rd party customisations and modifications market develops for the car. The cabin design will probably be fairly different between the two versions, however.
It may be that Subaru even have a clause in the joint agreement that says that any future variants also have to use the Subaru transmission.
More on the D-4S engine:
http://paultan.org/2009/10/09/toyota-ft-86...s-boxer-engine/
This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Oct 13, 2009 - 4:14 PM
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isnt it why they created the scion brand, for the younger target market.
THey would be really stupid if they put a really low tag price on it..
hope it doesnt happens
>i don't know about you guys but i am hoping that this will come at a fairly high price tag. why? because for the same reason that richee3 stated. i don't want this to be a car that i'll see everyday. i want it to be one of those cars that i'll notice from miles away and yell "look at ft-86!!" the same way i do for 6th gens.. but i'm sure Toyota is more inclined to sales and trying to make it affordable for the younger target market. if this does well, maybe cars like the LF-A will be put to production..
isnt it why they created the scion brand, for the younger target market.
THey would be really stupid if they put a really low tag price on it..
hope it doesnt happens
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>who says they'll release it under toyota tag?
It almost certainly will be released under the Toyota marque not Scion or Lexus as that was the intention from the start. And the low HP is partly to get good numbers for emmissions and mileage figures. They are talking around 180hp, 35mpg and a $22k pricemark. 35mpg and $22k are both pretty good for a sports compact.
A low price tag for the entry model could still allow room for a convertible or GT4 version at around the $35k price mark, which I would like very much.
And as for the engine - the original deal was that Subaru would make the chassis and transmission, with Toyota providing the auxillary systems (most notably the brakes) and initial styling. The engine is a joint venture between the two companies and is a D-4S (not C-45 as reported elsewhere).
It is expected that the Subaru version of the car won't be significantly different in body panels to the Toyota version (kinda like Curren vs Celica) - expect different head and tail lights and a different hood. Part of the reason for this is to ensure that a healthy 3rd party customisations and modifications market develops for the car. The cabin design will probably be fairly different between the two versions, however.
It may be that Subaru even have a clause in the joint agreement that says that any future variants also have to use the Subaru transmission.
More on the D-4S engine:
http://paultan.org/2009/10/09/toyota-ft-86...s-boxer-engine/
This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Oct 13, 2009 - 4:14 PM
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