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>i don't know about you guys but i am hoping that this will come at a fairly high price tag. why? because for the same reason that richee3 stated. i don't want this to be a car that i'll see everyday. i want it to be one of those cars that i'll notice from miles away and yell "look at ft-86!!" the same way i do for 6th gens.. but i'm sure Toyota is more inclined to sales and trying to make it affordable for the younger target market. if this does well, maybe cars like the LF-A will be put to production..


isnt it why they created the scion brand, for the younger target market.
THey would be really stupid if they put a really low tag price on it..
hope it doesnt happens


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>who says they'll release it under toyota tag?


It almost certainly will be released under the Toyota marque not Scion or Lexus as that was the intention from the start. And the low HP is partly to get good numbers for emmissions and mileage figures. They are talking around 180hp, 35mpg and a $22k pricemark. 35mpg and $22k are both pretty good for a sports compact.

A low price tag for the entry model could still allow room for a convertible or GT4 version at around the $35k price mark, which I would like very much.

And as for the engine - the original deal was that Subaru would make the chassis and transmission, with Toyota providing the auxillary systems (most notably the brakes) and initial styling. The engine is a joint venture between the two companies and is a D-4S (not C-45 as reported elsewhere).

It is expected that the Subaru version of the car won't be significantly different in body panels to the Toyota version (kinda like Curren vs Celica) - expect different head and tail lights and a different hood. Part of the reason for this is to ensure that a healthy 3rd party customisations and modifications market develops for the car. The cabin design will probably be fairly different between the two versions, however.

It may be that Subaru even have a clause in the joint agreement that says that any future variants also have to use the Subaru transmission.

More on the D-4S engine:
http://paultan.org/2009/10/09/toyota-ft-86...s-boxer-engine/

This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Oct 13, 2009 - 4:14 PM

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at first it looked ugly as all hell

then i saw some photoshops and there not TOO TOO bad

front...ehh dont like it..needs more work

im not a big fan of these new futuristic looking cars...but i will give credit to the back of the car...thats about the only part that looks good, along with the side views...there not to bad either

seats need to be changed, consul isnt to bad, dont like the passenger side though

all in all i give it a 3 out of 10

just my oppinion

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i dont care what they do to it, as long as they bring it HERE. im going to put the emblem thats SUPPOSED to be on it....





GUESS what the emblem will say? biggrin.gif

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I believe I just soiled myself.

I am flucking SOLD on this car...crap that's sexy.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Oct 13, 2009 - 8:53 PM

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okay... i'm sold. love it in black. and i too am hoping this doesn't sell for cheap. i wouldn't mind paying more for a car (a REAL sports car from toyota) that has more power and is less common on the road. plus i'll be able to afford one by the time it comes out.

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Dont get ahead of yourself kids. Lets wait for Japanese Auto Salon and figure out what Toyota and Subaru want to do with all of this. I have a lingering suspicion on the back of my mind that toyota will try to hybrid-ify most of their future models. They seem to be very successful with their prius program and similar type engines are not being squeezed into camry's and other models. If I am not mistaken, Tokyo thing is to last from October 24th ish to November 3rd I think. AND Subaru as recently pulled out of WRC so their racing heritage may put their version of ft-86 into similar category as some sort of cross-over vehicles with awd and enough horse power to get you buy. Never know.

Fingers crossed for the best.

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early test mules have been spotted at the Nurburgring:

FT-86 test mules at Nurburgring

Looks like it's still going to be some time before we see "true" production versions...

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ughhh I hate it.
I much rather take the concept over that crap.
Looks way to "Subaru" now. I was expecting a good looking sports car, not a 2 door Subaru hatchback.
Hope Yota doesn't make the mistake and pick a Subaru design over their concept design.

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The mule isn't what the car will look like... it's a testing vehicle usually made up of the prototype parts in a current model car.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Oct 14, 2009 - 3:54 PM

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>The mule isn't what the car will look like... it's a testing vehicle usually made up of the prototype parts in a current model car.

Correct. The mules for the Chevy Volts are pretty much gutted Malibus with the Volt drivetrain shoved in them. So don't expect them to look so much like the WRX with the funny front end.

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Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday?

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Oct 19, 2009 - 10:36 PM

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You better believe it. I can't wait to see more pics of this thing, plus get several more reviews from the press on it. Hopefully more information will be released, like if they have officially decided on if there will be an AWD version available, etc. I'm probably being too hopeful, but I can dream, can't I? Late 2011 is entirely too far away.

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I'll be happy to have half finished building my Celica at that point, to be honest. biggrin.gif

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>I like the looks. I am against the idea of a boxer engine in a toyota, no matter how great a powerplant
it just doesn't seem right.


yes i totally agree with you and Dr Tweak. I mean its just not the same. They are doing a half assed job on the engine. was the 2jz-te head designed by yahama?? I mean didnt the gt-four beat the wrx back in the day?? yes we all know that boxer engines are great motors, but i heard from a friend of mine that has a wrx, that they are hard motors to work on....

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Some into on subaru version
http://www.7tune.com/subaru-086a-sti/

Something tells me that I am doing myself some good by purchasing an evo this upcoming year. Subaru is supposed to debut on 2011 or 2012 auto show and be available for sale sometime after that.

I have been quite busy researching evo 8,9,10 models and subaru wrx sti coupe models from 2003-2007 and for time being that seems to be the only semi affordable AWD lineup ;-( My family is supportive though. THey have pretty much condemned my celica adventures through the years but prospect of new car is music to my mom's ears. Every time they come visit me they have to rent a car cause you can't fit 4 traveling people and luggage into a coupe. So. having a 4 door sedan and slightly bigger trunk space should do just fine he he he.

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What STI coupe models? All the STIs in the US are 4 doors.


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^ His Celica coupe.

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haha toyota is going to come out with the 160ps version and subaru will say FU here is the exact same thing except STi and kickarse...

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>^ His Celica coupe.


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>subaru wrx sti coupe models from 2003-2007


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From what I've also read is that the Subaru version will be RWD as well, and not AWD.

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Coming back to this, there is actually very little to dislike.

In addition to my previous comments, I think it feels a bit too squat, too short. Looking at the stats, it is 6" shorter than the 7th gen and over 12" shorter than the 6th gen.

The shots of the back seat look nice. The front seats are a little cutting-edge but if the seat hinge could be toned down a little, they could work in a production car. Reminds me a bit of the seats in the Tesla.

I'm not overly keen about the instrument cluster with its wings. I could live with it I suppose.

The dashboard is the only thing I really dislike and I'm sure that is just for the show circuit. As previously mentioned, I'd like to see something that reminds one of the MKIV Supra cockpit - the way it seperated the driver from the passengers.

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i, too, prefer the cockpit-like styling in the supra and 6gc but because of lightweight being one of the most important factors, i don't think toyota would even consider it. toyota even got rid of carpeting and put solid panels. what i'm more concerned about are the white seats, armrest, & door panels.. it's gonna be a pain to keep clean. and some things i still can't quite figure out are what the 3 USB ports in the centre are for other than for playing MP3's. does the stereo come with a display? it should if it's going to play DVD's (as it's printed on the dash). and what are the wings on the centre console for? isn't that CF piece just below the shift knob going to be in the way?





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About 3% of whats in the interior will make it to production.

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Super... what I meant to say is that I live in Florida and my Family leaves in New Jersey. My sisters who are now growing up age 8 and 10 +my mom can no longer fit into my celica. We used to do it that way when they were smaller with my step father sitting in passenger seat but that was always for a short ride somewhere. Then they started traveling with like half their possessions and my little celi can no longer accomodate them. Heck I can't even pick them up in an airport.. they won't fit. So we have been renting SUV's for the last few years. Needless to say when we are all going to the keys for 1-2 weeks car rental turns into a thousand dollars. Pretty silly considering that they come here several times a year. So logically it would be nice to have a big(er) car. My eyes are set on evo but my heart longs for my celica. Such is the sad truth of my relationship with my sporty coupe. Engine goes vroom vroom, car puts a smile on my face but from practical standpoint I do need to get a car that is capable of serving as a travel car. I can go cheaper, of course but having some vroom behind the hood does not hurt either. Now I could wait for the FT-86 but in all seriousness waiting for it means putting a lot of trust into a car that has been canceled half of dozen times, postponed and reduced to a fraction of what it was supposed to be. Yeah it does look nice but more powerful version will be released sometime between 2012 and who knows when. 2+ years is actually quite a lot of time to wait for a promise that may never come.
I first got a celi in 98 and it has been a wonderful journey so far. I just hope that choices that I do make will give me as much joy as I had owning celicas he he he.

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I really wish I knew what you were talking about. I just saw you say "WRX coupes" when they're 4 doors, that's all.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Oct 20, 2009 - 4:05 PM

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You people that want AWD gotta go elsewhere. A Hachi Roku with AWD is sacrilegious!!! tongue.gif

Anyway... 200hp is possible... Toyota's direct injection... Subaru's 190ps EJ20... possible... but i'm not holding my breath.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Oct 21, 2009 - 11:30 PM

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i like the steering wheel

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If you havent seen the back seats, you gotta look here.. I hope those are in the 3% that make it in the final production.
Opps...n/m..they are on here...

This post has been edited by Spider77: Oct 24, 2009 - 4:47 PM
Anyone found out anything new or interesting on this? I kinda stopped paying attention there for a little bit.

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