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This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Sep 15, 2006 - 2:11 PM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
4th gen? oh snap! st215...oh snap!

KawiLove
we need a west coast 6gc swapper expert
nice work. but where is the st215 motor at? lol

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
I need money I wanna send my car to the Dr.
man you need to come to the midwest, like chicago or something.....lol....
looks like fun so far tweek smile.gif

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is what i say.... biggrin.gif OUTSTANDING DOC!!!

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
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here u go lagos! pretty clean aint it? i was impressed!!! biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Sep 15, 2006 - 5:21 PM

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
yeah, it looks nice. congrads.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
Hey doc, would you be willing to fly down to rockcastle county Kentucky?


By the way, this isnt a joke.

Cuz Thats How Us Country Boyz RollGrowing up racing motocross, i learned one thing..."Always wear clean underwear, you never know when the Paramedics are gonna have to cut your pants off of you"
you just made us all jealous now

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hey, what'd u add the little brake booster for? matt dont need 2 brake pedals cwm13.gif rolleyes.gif smile.gif

as usual very nice work by Dr. Tweak

and congrats matt, i know you'll enjoy it
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QUOTE(LewFX @ Sep 15, 2006 - 12:11 PM) [snapback]480134[/snapback]
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we need a west coast 6gc swapper expert


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ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts areon. which means i need to update my sig.
Thanks for the positive comments everyone smile.gif

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QUOTE(6th_celi_vert @ Sep 16, 2006 - 12:15 AM) [snapback]480229[/snapback]
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Hey doc, would you be willing to fly down to rockcastle county Kentucky?


By the way, this isnt a joke.



Kentucky isn't that far away compared to a lot of people that drive or ship their cars down to me. Send it on over! smile.gif

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
i should hope its clean, its only a few years old.

Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
good job doc keep up the good work hope to see many more...

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QUOTE(LewFX @ Sep 15, 2006 - 2:11 PM) [snapback]480134[/snapback]
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we need a west coast 6gc swapper expert

yea totally agree with ya lew!

- 180k and still running strong"Yes...yes I do have a myspace..."
Easternpiro... now you can finally show those Honda guys what's up. thumbsup.gif

Congrats on the swap... it's gonna be soo sweet.
holy crap!..i want frown.gif how much power does a 4th gen produce compaired to a 3rd gen??/is the 4th gen the same 3s out of a Calidna??
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QUOTE(Valo666 @ Sep 16, 2006 - 2:11 PM) [snapback]480423[/snapback]
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holy crap!..i want frown.gif how much power does a 4th gen produce compaired to a 3rd gen??/is the 4th gen the same 3s out of a Calidna??


yes the 4th gen is out of the caldina, and its drops 255hp (i donno wheel hp)

KawiLove
260bhp vs 242-255bhp for the 3rd gen.

What I still dont understand is why they went back for air-air intercooler.

JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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QUOTE(CelicaB @ Sep 15, 2006 - 8:54 PM) [snapback]480260[/snapback]
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hey, what'd u add the little brake booster for? matt dont need 2 brake pedals cwm13.gif rolleyes.gif smile.gif

as usual very nice work by Dr. Tweak

and congrats matt, i know you'll enjoy it


is that what that was in the first pic? a brake booster eh? hmmm whats that for?

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QUOTE(Valo666 @ Sep 16, 2006 - 1:11 PM) [snapback]480423[/snapback]
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holy crap!..i want frown.gif how much power does a 4th gen produce compaired to a 3rd gen??/is the 4th gen the same 3s out of a Calidna??


ive been told its 260 hp but im thinking that its at the wheels. in another post i had, someone showed the dyno chart for a 4th gen and it said 232 whp but it was only at 11psi, stock psi is 14! which means about 10hp per pound? which is right around 260whp

someone correct me if im wrong? confused.gif

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
its 260 at the crank ... but that really means nothing because all that changes as soon as you start to mod the motor up.

the 2nd gen 3sgte is rated at something like 220hp, but almost every one with a swap is at around 260crank with basic bolt ons anyway.

go to a dyno when your car is running. then youll fiind out for sure were you are at with the mods you have added to it (fmic, exhaust, etc).

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is that with a 3s flywheel? because i think it has a 5s flywheel on there, power transfer may be different?

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
like i told you ealier...get rid of that 5sfe fly wheel and tell tweek to put on a 3sgte flywheel

i believe the proper combination is

3s Flywheel and disk
with a 3s pressure plate iwth 5sfe splines

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a large air to air is better for the rally enviroment because the car is always moving and the heat wont soak back into the intake charge, unlike stop and go. when you're off boost the heat soaked into the IC can flow back into your intake charge which is now cooler than the IC is, this applies to both water and air intercoolers. if you have an air-water you have to be able to move ALOT of heat out of the system through large radiators with alot of water flow to keep the heat soaked system from being hotter than the off boost or low boost intake charge. if its air to air then you'd need a massive FMIC or a pair of sidemounts and even a front mount, but with all that you get pressure drops and more possible leaks. also theres the durability aspect, an air-air IC doesnt have moving parts, where as water-air has a pump and fans.

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
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is that with a 3s flywheel? because i think it has a 5s flywheel on there, power transfer may be different?



thats power at the crank . changing a flywheel wont give you more/less power and has nothing to do with power transfer.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
lol three colors on your car (engine bay). Engine looks nice, it'll look a little weird sitting in a different color engine bay though lol. Congrats though!