http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86#Scion_FR-S

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This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Sep 17, 2012 - 6:04 PM

I'd think Scion would know better than Wikipedia.

Perhaps that value is with all fluids.

Even with that value, P/W is at .072.

Probably so. One way to know for sure is to drive it onto of those truck scales.

Thats what I was thinking about doing on my way home from work... just need to figure out where one is at near me... else, I will go to the county dump and weight it there.

Those trucker stops should have one. Still 2,758 pounds being full of fluids isn't bad. Especially in today's safety and computer stuffed cars.

This post has been edited by Box: Sep 17, 2012 - 10:18 PM

What is with the torque dip from 3250-4800?

That is how Subaru/Toyota made it. Aftermarket manufacturers are trying to lessen the dip with mods and a tune.

that is a knarly dip in torque. its really affecting the horsepower. if that dip can be straightened out, i have no doubt it will raise the HP curve 20-25 more ponies. does this engine have any kind of VVT? if so thats where it would be tuned out.

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Oh this, this I want to discuss. Why is the wear rating something like 140 or 240 when it's a low rolling-resistance design, neither a grippy tire? Baffled me when I saw that.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 19, 2012 - 9:32 AM

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Yes the 4U-GSE motor has VVT. Someone will eventually figure out the torque dip. Its gone on turbo applications, but I'd like to see a N/A fix with mods in conjunction with a tune.

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240 tread rating. I'm not going to worry about them for now. Too much grip and the car wouldn't be as much fun as it is.

I really like the car a lot but couldn't imagine getting one now with the family. The backseats have no room. If it was available back in 05-06 I would have bought it then. Enjoy it.

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I'm not speaking of the grip, I'm speaking of the sh!t wear in conjunction with no grip; I am wondering why such a hard tire is so quick to wear.

Meh.


In other news...

I love the car, but I'm already starting to see them EVERYWHERE. I went into the city the other day for only like 6 hours, most of which we we're inside shopping. I must have seen 4 on the road and 4 sitting curbside at dealers.

Did you expect differently?

I have yet to see one in person. Then again, this is Redneck Hell.

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I tried to convince toyota only to make 10 cars per state, and thats it. But they replied back, they have this evil scheme where they want to see some profits...

you should have suggested the idea to sell them for $300,000 and manufacture 300 of them

Ok, Ok ... touché. I just meant, I like driving a car that you don't see everywhere. For instance, when myself and a few of my friends went to London to go to college for a semester, the FIRST thing I remember after leaving the bus station (bus picked us up at the airport) was seeing a brand new Porsche 911 and a Ferrari 360 (this was in 02 so the 360 was still in production). We immediately took pictures of the cars. But as the days went on we realized that at least 50% of the cars we saw around there were Porsche, Ferrari, high end BMW and Mercedes. It got old. I ended up getting more excited seeing Integra/Civic Type R's and GT-Fours. Now, the 911 is right up there in my book with the 350z, Corvette (regular or Z06), Camaro SS, and Firebird WS6. They're nice enough that my eye picks them up, but my level of desire for them is a 2 or 3 out of 10; "It's just another ..." is what I say to myself. I'm even mildly like that to lower end Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Vipers (I'm around the Bills and the Sabre's players a lot and my uncle has 2 Vipers and a Ferrari). Point is, I don't want that to happen to the FR-S/BR-Z. I don't want it to become another TC/WRX that I see everywhere and think "Great ... another one of those ...".

I think that's what the Lexus LF-A is for. It doesn't matter if the FR-S is a sports car or not; it's a $25k car built by Toyota. It's going to be everywhere, just like the tC, whether we like it or not.

Technically it is built by Subaru... Just sayin'...


This is what you will find on every FRS body panel

I think Subaru wanted to make sure you know who really made it.

No pictures, but I had it Opti-guarded by a local detail shop a couple weeks ago.

Just placed an order for a set of KW V3's today. I think I have about $2,850 in modifications now.

Grimmspeed plate relocation: 70
Perrin antenna: 25
AVO intake: (retails for $280)
Cusco strut brace: 170
Tint: 160
DDM 35w 5k HID: 45
Opti-guard: 225
KW V3 coilovers: 1960

Yup Assembled by Subaru.
Assembly Ōta, Gunma, Japan
(Subaru facility)

I can for a fact confirm this. I stayed at a friends house who lives In Ota Gunma. the largest Subaru Factories are there. I actually walked by them a few times. the roads in Ota are awesome too.... but there is NOTHING to do there lol.

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Oooh ... so what your saying is it's made "Ota Gunma Style" ......



This post has been edited by Xander_X: Oct 15, 2012 - 8:20 AM

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Oct 15, 2012 - 10:54 AM

KW's showed up today. Might try to tackle the install this weekend.

haha wow even more fail ya Its official its a 90% Subaru with 10% Toyota.

I hear Subaru has done a good job! thumbs up to Subaru. two thumbs down for Toyota.

this reminds me of the Mitsubishi dodge partnership. with the 3000GT/Stealth and Eclipse/Talon. there is no way dodge can ever take credit for what Mitsubishi did.

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there will always be haters with this car, especially to toyota.