I'd have to try them all for myself to know once and for all I suppose. My uncle uses Tein on all of his vehicles, so I'm most familiar with them. He also only drives Toyota. Family influence I guess.

my hardcore friends that had teins never like them as did I on my first mile of driving it.

another member here on another thread just mentioned his KYBs and Tein springs are bouncing like crazy and is now looking for something else, just another note.

and thats springs, springs should feel more comfy. but i talk crap hardcore about Tein also in the newcelica forums and no one has defended teins or bought the ones on sale brand new on the forum sales there.

We really need to bring back the old parts list on here and the review of products back to this site. seriously. I was still updating it until it disappeared out of nowhere.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Aug 30, 2012 - 7:35 PM

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Have never had problems with mine. Then again when mine were installed the entire suspension was adjusted and aligned by a Toyota dealer.

id get the S tech's there good springs, alittle stiffer than stock and have a decent ride. they dont lower your car alot but they are good to cut as much as 1 coil in the front and 1.5 coils in the rear and they still maintain a good spring rate. they also go really well with kyb GR-2 struts...

""""my hardcore friends that had teins never like them as did I on my first mile of driving it.
another member here on another thread just mentioned his KYBs and Tein springs are bouncing like crazy and is now looking for something else, just another note.
and thats springs, springs should feel more comfy.""""

they only do that if you forget to trim your bump stops like a pillock. if your riding on your bump stops you will bounce because you will then be riding on rubber. your hardcore friends seem super hardcore, brah.

This post has been edited by TannerEsser: Sep 4, 2012 - 3:18 PM

I absolutely hate my tein lowering springs. I bottom out all the time. The handling could be much better. They just made a passable budget spring that sounds good on paper but sucks on the street. Save up for some proper coilovers.

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nope thats not the problem, you have to remember, tein coilovers dont drop that much if you look at the recommended drop heights, most people just force it to drop low. but my friends cars weren't dropped low like they might as well use springs. I fully understand the bump stop part, suspension is one of the major things I work on these days. If you know Teins, you'll know their dampers and spring rates are not that great because its made for Japan roads that go slow or rarely any bumps. US and other places have crazy roads.

Myself, i can tell the difference because I owned many different suspensions and installed many for friends, so I can REALLY tell. I owned 3 suspension setups for my 6gc, 2 setups on my 7gc, (ALL DIFFERENT BRANDS) and many for the supras back in my day. Have you tried other suspension springs or coilovers yet and different brands?

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Exactly what I mean, however, I think you are one of the many who are dissatisfied, but just doublecheck you have bump stops still there and cut off one ring.


This post has been edited by trdproven: Sep 4, 2012 - 6:18 PM

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i have tried a few different types of springs and coil overs that i have installed on my friends cars... but I've really had no problems at all with my teins when i first put them on i took off about half the bump stop and have had no problems with bounce or bottoming out. and the fact is that bounce isn't caused by your springs per say, but your struts failing to do their job. all springs will bounce if you have ****ty struts or your riding on your bump stops.

TEIN SUCKS PERIOD I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS thats my opinion...If that is someone's idea of their best standard of quality, I'd love to see their reaction with trying something better. Teins are low end to me. Teins are ok at best or just under that. I dont have the most expensive brand suspension only the ones over a thousand dollars ones on all my cars, but my friends have the more expensive ones, but they love how mine rides better. They always say you drive like its still stock, as I am slamming all the bumps and potholes, feels regular like its not dropped. The first thing I asked my wife when she drove the 7gc was how does the car feeel? She says why, the same? then i told her cus I changed the suspension. She said oh i thought it was still stock, in terms of feel. These are BC coilovers, when i first put on my Tein coilovers, I literally took that $hit off the same day. I'd hate to see her reaction on that.

I had Teins COILOVERS, so Im not sure what you are talking about, they are crap crap crap crap, bouncy as hell, they were brand new only dropped 1.2 inches. Imagine these are their coilovers not their springs. All my friends ran teins with all their cars, now they are using the brands I use. ive bought PLENTY different coilover brands for my cars, 3 lowering springs, and installed many others for different cars, they react also different in other cars, but the bottom line is that in each car, i want certain expectations or any brand to meet my standards. Also just let you know besides their crap spring rates and dampers, their adjustability features are crap, and their stiffest setting cant even beat my half adjusted settings on mine. I dont know why defend teins when no one has their coilvers here if any, only springs, and even at that, you already see some say its okay, and you already see some on this same thread say they were dissatisfied. but then again some people say they are good cus 1, they havent tried anything else, and 2, cus they want to defend where their money went. If they were a good product youd get consistent answers. All my friends Teins cars, I always say your suspension sucks and they'll agree everytime with me. i had TRD springs at one point with super dead struts, and they never bottomed out, thats another example that Tein spring rates for their springs are weak.

you should buy it and try it out and let us know how it rides, then you could ride with another 6gc who has megans or bc's and realize you wasted your money. TRUST me you can really notice the difference between the good budget coilovers and the wanna be people who force themselves to run the Japan brand name to be JDM, whatever. Im just as JDM as the next guy, you can look in my profile for sure, but then you are going to wonder why somethings i buy aren't japanese parts because of quality purposes. I go to Japan frequently and you'd understand that alot of their products are made for Japan not US, but more importantly their coilovers.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Sep 4, 2012 - 11:49 PM

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you just sound stupid period.
and looking at your other posts in the other topics, leads me to believe that you have no idea what the f**k your talking about.

I've also ridden and driven bc's and megan's both bouncy. its how you adjust your struts brooha


This post has been edited by TannerEsser: Sep 4, 2012 - 11:43 PM

obviously you have no idea what im talking about then, yes you can adjust the damper, but you missed the whole point of adjustability between Tein and other products. obviously you dont understand Teins features and adjustability. ive been here ever since, Ive been with toyotas, hondas and nissans. Ive written stickys and contributed to this site. what have you done, 1 bar here rookie? but wait let me look at your cars profile oh, its a piece of ****. sorry... spend more money on your car or work on it more or pay a better mechanic so you can sound cool...then you can talk. btw, next time don't cut springs and make your lights yellow, get wheels, better suspension, projectors, get real parts, nvm just throw away your car, or better yet its driver.

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im an ase certified mechanic. and i work at Burien Japanese auto service. i repair and drive both japanese and domestic cars for a living. but you know what your probably right i don't know anything and i should throw my self away... (ummm ok?) oh your right next time i do something to MY car ill make sure and run it through you first and make sure you like it. oh and where do i find "real parts" cause i can only find fake ones i get at work through worldpac. where can i find someone who doesn't know how to adjust coilovers, like your self, to set up my suspension? get back to me as soon as you can! thanks again Mr.proven.

love always,
Tanner Esser

p.s. why you mad brooha?

its not even about that man, i'm speaking from experience myself, you dont have to be an ASE certified mechanic to know how to work on cars. In fact, i know more mechanics that are better than ASE mechanics. But what Im saying is that there is more better stuff than Tein really. I'm not mad at all, thats just good forum talk. you should know all people who work on cars will always have debates and have different ideas and approaches. Just like engineers, IT people, doctors, they won't agree at all at times. I mean i work on cars every day, and I learn everyday, I try to contribute as much as I can as everyone else is. But imagine, i bought my set of tools, and just learned it all from internet. I'm not the best and dont want to be, nor think i can troubleshoot everyones problems online cus after all, you can only give people ideas on what to check you cant remotely troubleshoot every problem online. Its just one of my many hobbies im into and there is a ridiculous amount of hobbies Im into. I make over 100k annually in just one of my jobs and I was making that in my mid-20s. I do IT engineering and project management, Construction Management, Real Estate, Guitar Tutoring, Free Car Repairs, Free Computer Repairs, IT Consultations, Procurement services for Businesses, Vacation Touring, and I'm an IT instructor. I'm a very busy guy but i always stop by this forum compared to all my other 10 forums. I sleep only 4 hrs a day. But it's all good, we can go at it this forever, but for what? its all in good fun of car talk.

I think I just hate Tein that much that I'm willing to battle anyone that thinks they're good. but again its your car, and you could do whatever you want, at the end, its just my opinion yea? you know that....

i love you too man, haha.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Sep 5, 2012 - 2:24 AM

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i just didnt like you saying my car was ****. and your right at the end of the day its all oppinion. and we were both just trolling. lol and btw i cut my springs cause, why not? there like $200 springs lol of corse its not good to do.

yea, that was just my BS talk, i do it all the time to anyone and my friends, but they understand that at the end of the day, I will never leave them hanging, and I'm always willing to help no matter what. Since I am the most successful out of my friends they look to me for guidance in almost any category, relationships, real estate, house construction, cars, careers, you name it. No matter what I never take anything personal, it just seems that way. Hell, I even help the people my friends think are my enemies cus to me, i think everyone needs help whether they are rich or poor, smart or dumb. My apologies, I still love everyone here no matter what, you guys are all my online family. dont visit any other forum more than here. i dont even have a social network account. LOL. I pmed you regarding you question, LMK if you need help. SHOOT BRO.

^ And the internet isn't your group of friends, that talk was out of line. You've been here for so long, I don't understand the big-man mentality and need to prove yourself - your posts in this thread are incredibly narcissistic and self-praising, going so far as to piss and pick on a fellow member's car - WTF man? Teal is a great color in that application.

Anyway, cuddle and kiss and make-up and let's get the f*ck on with normal business on this site. Lowering springs...

I can say I enjoy the ride of the Eibach Sportline, never harsh, and I never feel any excessively abrasive forces inside the car. The nice thing about these is that they're progressively sprung, but have little roll to begin with. This is a very confidence-inducing trait, because in a fast corner, the car seems to tuck down while increasing speed in a like radius.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 5, 2012 - 9:01 PM

Its no big deal, took two posts only, no need for you to add, its nothing we pm each other now

But eibachs are great, they make the TRDs anyway and those were great springs too.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Sep 5, 2012 - 10:07 PM

wheres that thread with the list of all the jdm coilovers and springs picture taken from a magazine??

Coilovers

Springs

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 6, 2012 - 7:36 AM

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naw man its a picture taken from that old revspeed mag (or whatever its called) its an actual picture of a page from a jdm only magazine it has the trd, c-one tanabe, jspeed superstrut coilovers etc...

you mean the one in the sticky section?

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its laid out in 5 pic x 5 pics format and someone uploaded it as a picture onto one of the threads. It comes from a japanese magazine, that is now discontinued the HYPER REV MAGAZINE!! aaah anybody even have the slightest clue of what I'm talking about.

I need about 1.8inch drop on my car. So what springs will be perfect for that?

trdproven
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I think Intrax doesn't have springs for st205 or I can't find them.
You don't like the Tein coilovers,but what do you think about these springs?
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Approximate lowering - 37mm - is it true? and how will this affect on a high speed?

Thanks

This post has been edited by Red123: Dec 1, 2012 - 6:04 AM

I want the lowering of tein s-techs with the spring rates of trd

Red123, that is a very low spring rate - with the ST205 being heavy I would not run those.