Hello guys.
What would you recommend me for lowering the car? TRD or Tein Springs? or any other brand?
What's your opinions?

Thanks

Im running the tein s techs man and I love them I am running the kyb gr-2's to compliment them I believe the trd springs drop the car a little bit more but the s techs r perfect in my opinion

just curious how your teins hold up to hard driving, like canyons or track days?
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i autox with teins/gr2's and have been on the car for 3 years,i love them!

I have the Tein springs as well and am pleased with them. The TRD springs don't drop quite as much and are a bit softer. Want to say someone one here went from the Tein springs to TRD since they wanted a closer to stock ride, and had posted pictures.

I prefer the TRD springs, but then again I am only saying that because my TRD springs before dropped lower than Tein springs for some reason. best for everyone to put pics between the two springs, so that we can see teh differences with height and types of wheels.

can you still buy those springs for a ST205 more to the point?

Thanks guys.

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yes.
Can you post the pics to see the difference?

Rusty
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They're available on fensport very often.

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softer I think not. The rear springs from tein are same spring rates as stock. From What I've heard trd are the best performing springs available for ST202's ST205's

better to hear that though from someone's who's experienced both. I think njcmd2002 has

Hmm, was height then perhaps. Who knows. I keep waiting for someone to yell "COILOVERS!!!".

Using Eibach sportlines, I enjoy them plenty.

^ That, or Megan springs. The Megan units are lowest and stiffest for the Celica.

Also interested in finding out what the best Spring/Shock combo is until i have the funds for coilovers!

My rule is if you already have interest in coilovers dont waste your money on springs, i had TRD and moved to Intrax before I eventually went with Megan coilovers. I regret the springs unless you like it only a little dropped. at the same time just save your money until you can get coilovers instead of having to pay for the spring set up and eventually have to pay again the full price of the coilovers which you should have saved for in the first place, the money for the spring set up puts you closer to coilovers, but buying springs setup puts you farther away from coilovers, because then you'd probably want to make your spring setup worth it and run it for years, and in the end you never get the coilovers or sell the car, whatever happens.

I'm currently using Megan springs, the drop isn't that low up front but it still looks good and the ride quality is quite good as well

when i had the Intrax Springs it was 1.8 all around, decent drop for springs.

No pics?

i went from tein to TRD, the ride feels better, and not as hard as before, in the bouncing point, However, i istalled swaybars, so taking curves is a lot more fun.

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honestly, there is a lot of pics of tein and trd all over this site, you can actually search by keywords in the members find page. TRD has better spring rates but is basically exactly the Eibach pro kit rebadged. I think if you are going to stick to a slight drop go for a spring/shock combo (TRD, EIBACH SPORTLINES, INTRAX, etc.), if you plan to go lower than 1.8" I'd screw the BS and go coilovers now. My work has prevented me from going into my photobucket account so wasnt able to post my TRD vs Intrax Setup. for you maybe if I get back online later at home i may have time.

the specs I posted for trd vs tein spring rates shows that trd are stiffer in kg. But from members usage it seems the other way around ???

ive ridden on tein springs and many tein coilovers, did not like any of them, the features, the price, sometimes they are incomplete coilovers too. In fact I had Tein coilovers before - sucked a$$, decided to take them off after 1 ride, switched to BC and running nice for a while now. For Japanese product, I just dont like Tein. I've ridden on more generic suspension that felt better, like for coilovers Megan and BC > Tein, hands down. i just dont like that product, if you want springs, I'd say stick to TRD, Intrax, Eibach, but yea, Teins too I guess if you really want them since they are not too bad as springs but for coilovers, price - feature - adjustability is crap. Even their hardest damper setting was weaker than my half way settings.

Were the Tein coilovers, the USA or the Japanese version?

A reason why the tein shocks felt softer would be that they are degressive valved, where as the others are linear.

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not to mention europe and jdm are front spring rate 4k and rear spring rate 3k.

USA front spring rate 7k and rear spring rate 5k

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I had the Japanese ones, but my friends have had both Japanese and US versions all low end to high end models and all were mostly crap to me only because i've tried different coilovers in my cars and Teins seem like waste of money for what you get for its price and features. I've tried brands like TRD, Intrax for springs - both were good, for coilovers ive tried megan, BC, and tein, and tein was the worst out of all of them. Ive ridden on more tein coilovers than any other brands and was disgusted the most.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Aug 29, 2012 - 5:19 PM

I have Tein, have ridden in other vehicles with Tein and liked them. Only other brands I'd consider would be Tanabe and Eibach, and of course TRD/Nismo/Mugen etc... where it applies.

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Honestly alot of the Japanese coilovers are considered mediocre in specs, dampening, spring rates because in japan the roads are not that bad and is for slow speeds cus its too crowded there. they arent made for US pot holes and roads that feel like construction never completed. put it this way, my halfway settings are still better than Teins most stiffest setting and mine still rides better. Teins lack adjustability and options. almost outdated when compared to new style coilovers. Tanabe, TRD, and Tein are just Ok really. If you really like Tein, I cant wait for your reaction when you try something better. Surprisingly i really like the Chinese parts bin a lot better and Im all for Japanese products just not their suspension for realllsss. You cant imagine with all my cars how many suspension ive purchased and bought and how many ive ridden on my friends cars. Like I said I put on my Tein coilovers 1 day, rode for under 2 miles, then bought BC coilovers the same day. I literally threw those Tein suspensions out the window in fact 1 shock blew in that time. and all my friends say the same thing they blow early. BCs are pretty good, could have gotten higher end ones but already wasted money on crap Teins. All my friends say dont ever get Teins, and I was like YEAAH i thought it was only me. and this comes from friends who have slammed cars, heavy cars, and autocross cars. Actually just rode in a Lexus Tein Coilovers, ohhh man, they sucked, he had to slow down in every single bump on the road, so i took him in both my cars and drove it like it aint dropped and he freaked out, he said next set is whatever I got, but he is just one of the many proof of a dissatisfied owner of Tein. For me, id rather get the budget coilovers like Megan and BC since they are cheap and ride a lot better than Teins, and even by the time they blow, it wont be that bad to buy them again. instead of spending for 3k or more on coilovers that could blow in the same time or just get older in time by the time you get new budget ones. ive changed suspension on all my cars so much it aint even funny. my 6gc by itself went through 3 suspension setups meaning coilovers or springs, and ive changed almost 90% of all my suspension in the suspension diagram. Imagine what i had to do to my other cars ive had. I have nothing against Teins, I was just expecting more from a Japanese company, and it didnt help that not even 1 of them satisfied me. i just want to give people the heads up for any car. I recall reading the manual when dropping it, i lowered it first and it was soo freakin high so much finger gap, so when went back to the manual i was like what the hell, its even already dropped lower than the freakin recommended specs and the car was still a 4x4. freakin pissed me off. I can only think that if you use Tein coilovers to drop 1" ONLY maybe you might be ok but at that point you might as well get eibach or TRD springs.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Aug 29, 2012 - 5:58 PM

Different strokes for different folks. I just refuse to buy Chinese when it costs just as much as a Japanese made product.

This post has been edited by Box: Aug 30, 2012 - 12:34 AM

Its up to you I deal with suspension ugprades almost all the time. I know how all of them feel, all my friends who had Teins, none of them were happy, in fact none of them run Teins anymore. I guess maybe the ones you rode on were all 1" drop not 2"-4". Teins coilovers cant drop a car low enough either which is junk, you might as well get drop springs.

At the same time you only have the Tein springs, so I guess you wouldnt even know how any of their coilovers feel. Lowering springs still have full diameter coils in them which still make them somewhat comfy, Lowering springs are still made like stock springs just different spring rates or less coils.

Megan/BC/Ksport/all other brands made from the china parts bin which are made for US market have more full adjustability and complete assy while Teins have way less adjustability, soft spring rates, soft damper, not always a complete assy, reassemble/reassemble, reuse stock components. so you can spend the same money and still get a crappier product just so you can say yours is Made In Japan, i dont think thats a great sacrifice. After installing, riding, on all those f-en cars that had em, they are crap suspension. I threw away 1000+ dollars just like that when I bought them. if anyone has ridden on cut ass springs on crap shocks or junky coil sleeves and junk shocks, thats exactly how it felt. I felt like my car was freakin broken when I drove it. It was freeakin bouncy as hell. When i first put it on and picked up my friend who had a higher end tein coilover in the past, he goes whoah your suspension is crazy, let me guess, Teins? thats another proof. 1 friend had to lift his up because it could not handle any bumps, another friend dropped it even more cus he wants to blow it faster so he can get something else, another friend sold his car cus it irritated him, my other friend, burned his highend tein coilovers, another friend bottoms out on minor bumps on the road, another friend who is a hardcore autocrosser told me I would never get Tein, and another hardcore mechanic friend told me too. and each one of us work on our own cars, we dont help each other, so we have our own experiences, our own customers. and remember all these fools were running the stiffest setting they could run, mine felt better at only halfway. It was crazy when I brought up my experience with them and I was like hey howcome teins feel crazy, each one of them, 1 on 1 told me they are crap. None of my friends who had teins knew each other all from different groups, i just knew each one of them so those were all independent experiences. Like I said Teins are built for Japan roads not U.S. Just like anyone else, i'd love to always keep Japan parts on my list, you can check my long parts list on my profile, but not with Teins, I refuse....everyone falls for the made in japan and cute character marketing. I guess its really up to you why dont you spend the 1000+ and try it out and let us know if you can even find them anymore, or get it for another car.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Aug 30, 2012 - 12:30 AM

I wouldn't buy the Tein coil-overs (or any most likely) for the Celica. But I've looked up the Tein coil-overs for other cars and on the MR2, Supra, 240SX, Miata, etc... they drop 2.5-3", and the more expensive ones are fully adjustable. I know how you feel though, it's easy to get burned by a company and have a bitter resentment towards them. I for one will never buy another Mitsubishi car, but that's another story for another time.

all my friends got burned thats why i didnt take it as a personal defense against tein I take it for all the experiences my friends had. wow 2.5"-3" thats amazing i would assume Teins would bounce like a 6-4. i hate mitsubishi too.