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QUOTE (rave2n @ Aug 9, 2012 - 6:52 PM) *
>Looking good!


Thanks rave, your build is looking good too.

Just thought I'd post up a pic of a small mock-up I did. Couldn't help myself with all those ceramic coated bits lying around:







More to come this weekend thumbsup.gif

This post has been edited by enderswift: Oct 28, 2012 - 7:36 PM
When you do the AWD to this beauty it will be a hell of a fun, reliable car.
I don't think it was ever that clean new laugh.gif

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>That looks BAD ASS!

Thanks man, but I can only hope to approach the badass-ery of your ride

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>When you do the AWD to this beauty it will be a hell of a fun, reliable car.

I don't want to think about it haha. The work still left to be done to reach that goal just seems overwhelming sometimes

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>I don't think it was ever that clean new

If only that were true.

So I'm gonna try to squeeze this in among the flood of spam:






The engine is 95% complete. Just need to rebuild the turbo, repair a bracket I bent during removal, and tie up a few loose ends. The fated engine swap should happen in two weeks, giving me just enough time to clean up all of the supporting assemblies. Hopefully the spam stops before then

This post has been edited by enderswift: Aug 20, 2012 - 4:51 PM
Let me know if you want help with the swap.

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Mmm, turbo...

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ender i'll buy the awd stuff off you right now.... smile.gif

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I've got first dibs!!!! Plus, you haven't been to a meet all year tongue.gif

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QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Aug 17, 2012 - 9:47 PM) *
>I've got first dibs!!!! Plus, you haven't been to a meet all year tongue.gif

false, he was at the spring meet smile.gif

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I call first dibs on a ride at the first meet this car shows up to.
Sorry guys, I'm keeping the AWD bits. I just love power to four wheels too much to part with any of the stuff.

Stambo is it true that you're switching over to the 3rd gen? Cuz Richee3 has been threatening to do it too; and having three 3rd gens at the midwest meets would be awesome.

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>I call first dibs on a ride at the first meet this car shows up to

confirmed. The car is still gonna have an open diff unfortunately kindasad.gif But there's always that straightaway on 71 thumbsup.gif


So I finally turned my attention to the turbo today. I was planning to rebuild it but ran into something particularly annoying. It looks like some curious member of my family decided to check out the turbo cartridge while it was laying on my work bench. . . and then place/drop it with the impeller facing down, thus scuffing the edge of two blades on the intake side.

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

so I need to send the impeller assembly out for balancing because I don't want to take chances on a part that approaches 100k rpm.



Good thing you caught that, imagine ruining a perfectly sound rebuild to an unknown like that. Looks like the cleanest (and I mean that literally) I've seen posted here in a while.

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QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 18, 2012 - 1:29 AM) *
>Sorry guys, I'm keeping the AWD bits. I just love power to four wheels too much to part with any of the stuff.

Stambo is it true that you're switching over to the 3rd gen? Cuz Richee3 has been threatening to do it too; and having three 3rd gens at the midwest meets would be awesome.

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>I call first dibs on a ride at the first meet this car shows up to

confirmed. The car is still gonna have an open diff unfortunately kindasad.gif But there's always that straightaway on 71 thumbsup.gif


So I finally turned my attention to the turbo today. I was planning to rebuild it but ran into something particularly annoying. It looks like some curious member of my family decided to check out the turbo cartridge while it was laying on my work bench. . . and then place/drop it with the impeller facing down, thus scuffing the edge of two blades on the intake side.

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

so I need to send the impeller assembly out for balancing because I don't want to take chances on a part that approaches 100k rpm.


I'm planning to go to a 3rd. I'm just shopping around to find a nice front clip with the awd goodies for a good price.

2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!97celiman"92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM"
Sounds like a family member needs a good scuffing. redface.gif

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Hello everyone,

thank you for the kind words so far, I lose sight of the end goal sometimes when I get into the nitty gritty details, so its nice to have a reminder of why this is all worth it. Anyway I have a decent update to post up. The turbo has recieved a lot of attention and is currently cleaned, painted, and awaiting the return of a balanced impeller assembly. As I mentioned before, the intake side impeller has tiny chips on two fins and therefore needed to get balanced. Honestly I'm sure the turbo would work fine as-is, but I'm doing this build with longevity in mind. So off it went to TheBoostLab in Tampa Florida: http://www.theboostlab.com/ you guys should check them out if you need any work done.


Taking the turbo apart was pretty easy after soaking it in cleaner for a little while. I made sure to keep track of the order of the internals and placed paint marks pointing toward the compressor side on each of them. All of the internals look like they're in fantastic shape so a rebuild isn't really necessary, but I already have the kit so why not!


Heres a picture of my impeller assembly. Gotta love the ceramic turbine impeller smile.gif I replaced the lock nut and the thrust clips before sending this out for balancing.


This took a while


After masking off the cartridge I painted it with VHT flameproof paint (well see how it holds up). The paint can says to cure it in 500 degree temps for 30 min, so I shoved this thing in the oven when no one was home. Worked awesome thumbsup.gif


Also cleaned up the compressor housing in some more of that Boeing cleaner.


Some of the miscellaneous turbo bits got painted in the extreme temp VHT as well.




I am currently waiting on these two gaskets to come in from the UK, as well as a new intercooler bracket


Here's the engine as it currently sits. I attached all of the accessories and now I'm really just tying up the loose ends (procrastinating on extending the harness tongue.gif ) so it shouldn't be much longer. If I'm really lucky then the swap will go smoothly. I doubt that's gonna happen though, there's bound to be tons of gremlins that keep me busy.


I like the fact that my wall of potential energy is starting to get pretty sparse. For a while there it felt like I was putting in a ton of work with no progress to show for it.

Finally bought a set of gauges. I went with prosport because they have good reviews (on the premiums) and look like defi's for a million dollars cheaper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-75K8jKTQo

I bought the boost, wideband, and oil pressure. They're gonna look awesome. Anyway, stay tuned for more updates

This post has been edited by enderswift: Dec 23, 2012 - 1:07 PM
looks like that engine just came out of the factory today. nice work!

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Where did you get the rebuild kit for the turbo?
And what did you use to clean up your alternator without damaging it?
I'm really interested. Mine is kind of an eyesore.
luke, it looks like you might have the tensioner pulley set up wrong? Unless the pulley you got is a ribed one.

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QUOTE (Stambo @ Aug 27, 2012 - 6:20 PM) *
>luke, it looks like you might have the tensioner pulley set up wrong? Unless the pulley you got is a ribed one.


nope I think you're right, good eye. This is what happens when I start assembling without referencing my photos. Thanks dude

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>Where did you get the rebuild kit for the turbo?


I got mine from gpopshop.com. You have to call them to order the ct20b kit

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>And what did you use to clean up your alternator without damaging it?
I'm really interested. Mine is kind of an eyesore.


I used one of those 3M sanding sponges, the 320 grit iirc, and a can of CRC alternator/starter cleaner. I made sure to keep any sanding dust from building up by using my compressor often. I took it to get tested at advance after and it passed with flying colors

This post has been edited by enderswift: Aug 31, 2012 - 8:00 PM
Hello 6gc,

I have a massive update for you. I've rebuilt my turbo, and I'm slowly making my way through extending the wire harness. One of the most tedious things I've ever done, and I've done my fair share of tedious stuff during this rebuild laugh.gif


A while back I ordered a late model 5s engine harness from ebay to serve as a donor for my extension. I figured that since the 5s and 3s are so similar, then most of the wiring should match up color-wise. What you see in this photo is the leftover carnage from unlooming that donor harness.


Here is a shot of the exposed wires waiting to be sorted and cut. I made sure to measure my st205 firewall and figure out the approximate extension length before I scrapped it. I would only need about 36 inches of additional wiring to make the 3s harness plug and play with a lhd frame, but I decided to play it safe and go with 42 inches.


Next I exposed a section of my 3s harness near the firewall boot so I could start sorting and making a log of the wires that would be supplied by my donor.


This is the result of the sorting. I was missing about 20 color combinations so the next day I tore into some leftover chassis harnesses from the clip and salvaged about 8 more. So that leaves me with 12 color combos un accounted for. It's no big deal though, I will just use wires that look similar and properly label them.


Here is a picture of the log that has been helping me keep track of the wiring. Its super easy to get confused so something like this is a must in my opinion.


This picture shows my workbench all setup for the extension. On the right are the soldering supplies I've been buying lately, including some quality 3m electrical tape. Those of you that have used a lot of electrical tape before know that the cheap stuff either melts together or gets really brittle. I want to avoid that with this harness.


I'm just starting the extension in this picture, but just those few wires took about 25 min. Each extension involves a cleaning of the donor wire so it's not sticky, cutting to 42", stripping all ends of insulation, careful soldering, continuity checks, and heat shrinking. Absolutely mind-numbing work. I'm also making sure to stagger groups of spliced wires to avoid a bulge in the final product. It's been mostly smooth sailing except for some unexpected coaxial, and shielded wires that the donor harness could not supply. I'm gonna have to get creative to extend those. Hopefully my soldering skills are up to the task


In other news I got my turbo parts back! That's just amazing turn around time, especially considering hurricane Issac was blasting Florida while this was there. I love how they cleaned up the ceramic impeller, way better than my measly attempts. Guys, I was the guinea pig and I can say without a doubt that theboostlab.com is the place to go with.


The intake side is looking pretty good too. One thing I couldn't figure out is where they removed the material to do the balancing. Maybe all it needed was to be clocked slightly to make up for the chips. Either way I cant wait to hear this guy spin up!


With the parts in hand I sat down and assembled the turbo with the new internals. Assembly is super easy as long as you take pictures of everything ahead of time. I'm surprised people don't rebuild their turbos more often. However doing this only reinforced my pure hatred for c-clips.


Nothing like a freshly rebuilt turbo


I wasn't about to sit around with a freshly rebuilt turbo on my table so I went into the garage and started assembling.


For a stock turbo the ct20b really is big. I have to hand it to toyota, they went nuts with the 3s turbo. Twin entry, ceramic exhaust impeller, water cooled... They just crammed in all the bells and whistles possible back then.


It feels real good to finally have the engine finished. I'm literally just waiting on a bracket and two gaskets at this point. Everything else has been done. Unfortunately now is the point where the real second guessing starts. There are thousands of places where I could have made a mistake on this engine. I hope none of them are going to be show stoppers kindasad.gif


Another view of the assembled turbo. I'm thinking of just leaving the factory heat shield off for now. I like the way all of this looks, and I don't want to hide it.


Also got my prosport gauges in the mail. Boost, AFR, and oil pressure. I cant wait to have them bounce around while driving at night. Btw, I was really surprised at the quality of the supporting hardware for these. I don't know how anyone could want more.


Finally, I got a wild hair the other day ordered a QTP exhaust cutout. Making a custom exhaust is gonna be a pita for a while so this thing is gonna let me uncork the motor when the occasion arises wink.gif

I plan to take advantage of the long weekend and finish my harness. The final parts should arrive by tuesday at the latest so... the swap is upon me.

This post has been edited by enderswift: Dec 22, 2012 - 10:35 AM
I expect a startup vid within the next 7 days!

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QUOTE (richee3 @ Aug 31, 2012 - 7:47 PM) *
>I expect a startup vid within the next 7 days!


dont tempt me lol. I'm getting so close that it's all I can do to keep myself from halfassing stuff just to get it done
thats a stupid clean engine. I like it

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>I expect a startup vid within the next 7 days!


shooting for this upcoming weekend!

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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 2, 2012 - 1:18 PM) *
>thats a stupid clean engine. I like it


Thanks man, hope to see your beams again next summer.


So this sucked. I never want to solder another connection again, but the harness should be very reliable (I hope). I guess time will tell
it has held well for me...

Good job.

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