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after you swap how are going to get the car inspected ?

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 21, 2011 - 10:52 PM) *
>after you swap how are going to get the car inspected ?


Lol the magic question everyone asks, idk how do others with the swap pass the inspection?

Fortunatly with a fresh new inspection till april of 2013 i wont have to worry till then biggrin.gif lol
most people swap with a 94-95. The 96+ are obd2 and that's a big problem for inspections.

did you convert the tranny yet ?

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 21, 2011 - 11:39 PM) *
>most people swap with a 94-95. The 96+ are obd2 and that's a big problem for inspections.

did you convert the tranny yet ?



Aaaaa cool nice to know in that case i still got 2 year maybe ill swap back and swap again who knows thanks for the heads up tho

No i think ill just use the gt tranny and keep the awd in case i wanna use it in the future if making the car awd becomes more popular and easy or i just go crazy and feel like spendin more money and time lol, so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 21, 2011 - 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 11:38 AM) *
>ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.



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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 22, 2011 - 12:44 AM) *
>so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it


my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 22, 2011 - 10:51 AM) *
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 11:38 AM) *
>ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.



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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 22, 2011 - 12:44 AM) *
>so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it



he has an ST dustin, doesnt he have to do a lil modding to the bay for the GT mounts to fit and use GT cables?

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

This post has been edited by Ted95: May 22, 2011 - 10:24 AM

st205 powered ss3 coupe
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 22, 2011 - 9:51 AM) *
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 11:38 AM) *
>ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.



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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 22, 2011 - 12:44 AM) *
>so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it




thanks, my question was more related to this
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"5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)">
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ive read some places say you need a custom part related to the transmition fabricated
and others dont say that you need anything fabricated is this really necessary?
or is it just a good clutch and all parts can be found within the 2 trannys

i know about the mounts, cables, axles, clutch, and tranny

E-153 mr2 turbo tranny = GT shifter cables
3sgte disk
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
Alltrac outer half shafts, m2 inner shafts.

GT tranny or 3SGE = GT shifter cables
5sfe/3sge disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny) >>??????? IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY???????>>
5sfe/3sge throwout bearing
5sfe/3sge alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
5sfe Axels

1mzfe Solara Tranny = ST205 Cables (GT4)
V6 Camry tranny
1mzfe disk
1mzfe throwout bearing
1mzfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
Not sure about the axels needed to run this tranny >>?????? ANYONE ANY IDEA ???????>>[color="#FF0000"][/color]

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 22, 2011 - 2:48 PM
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This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 22, 2011 - 2:18 PM
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>thanks, my question was more related to this
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"5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)">
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ive read some places say you need a custom part related to the transmition fabricated
and others dont say that you need anything fabricated is this really necessary?
yes and no, an axle spacer because the pass side axle is too short for some people
or is it just a good clutch and all parts can be found within the 2 trannys
you need to buy a new clutch. If you use the GT tranny (s54) then you need or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny
i know about the mounts, cables, axles, clutch, and tranny

E-153 mr2 turbo tranny = st205 cables and fyi V6 Camry/Solara tranny = e153 also.
3sgte disk
3sgte tob
3sgte alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
just buy an MR2 turbo clutch
Alltrac outer half shafts, m2 inner shafts.

GT tranny = GT shifter cables
a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny >>??????? IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY???????>>
?????????? why in the world would you think it wouldn't be nessessary ??????
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
5sfe Axels

There is a lot that goes along with swapping, lots of parts to buy, lots of research to do.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
is there anyone that makes the "custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny" ? some one that already knows and
does them alot, just like Dr tweak does the wiring

the research is done all am doing is asking for clarification as no one is perfect and ive read contradiction in different swap write-ups
contradictions that confuse as to all the parts necesary as some say u only need this part and other say you need this and this other
part so excuse me guys if i ask to many questions but because ive done too much research am starting to get confused as many
different opinions are clouding my head

PLEASE DONT SAY DO RESEARCH AGAIN GUYS OR ILL LOSE IT ALL I WANT IS SPECIFICS TO NOT WASTE TIME


THANKS BATMAN FOR ALL YOUR HELP
would you recomend any tranny over the other in term of durability, and what would make the difference between good and GREAT

This post has been edited by LimitedGT4: May 22, 2011 - 10:18 PM
well since you did the research then you already kno that Dr Tweak sells custom made clutches for this specific swap then right? for the 3sgte s54 combo

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...23pga15u24f7ac5

really depends on your power goals.. the s54 tranny is good up until like what 340whp guys? then is starts to reach its limit. its a shorter geared tranny as the e153 is a longer geared tranny and will hold up better in the long run. but to start off i would just go w the s54 and do the e153 down the road. its up to u.

research wink.gif

This post has been edited by Ted95: May 23, 2011 - 11:05 AM

st205 powered ss3 coupe
For the most part, any clutch company will make you a custom setup if you call the company directly and ask. As far as what clutch you choose, that is going to be based off personal preference and other experiences. Taken directly from my swap thread:

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>This week I also got my clutch in the mail. I decided to go with a SPEC Stage 3+ sprung full faced clutch. Even though I read a lot of bad with SPEC and the springs exploding..etc (all over mr2oc) I have a few friends running it with no problems. Plus, a lot of the exploding springs were on the 6 puck from what i could tell-too much free motion i suppose in the tranny. Also anyone looking to buy from SPEC directly, deal with Jeremy. He was nothing but help and was well aware of the combination we need for the 5sfe transmission (3sgte pressure plate, 5sfe clutch, 5sfe throwout bearing and alignment tool).


I hate to beat a dead horse, but simply glazing over this thread it is clear that you need to do more research. You'd be amazed how many topics cover the same questions you're asking and they are answered with great detail. I do understand wanting to get an answer immediately, especially when in the process of the swap itself, but you are still in the planning phases. Take the time now to read/take notes so that you don't end up stuck later on waiting on a reply that will be brief and undetailed since it was most likely answered years ago. The amount of knowledge on present day 6gc.net about the different swaps is amazing. When i first joined the site, there were a select few (lagos, dg performance) that had swapped 2nd gen's because 3rd gens were just way too expensive ($5,000++). Take advantage of the site and everything it has to offer.

The "Fly Low" Project: 3rd Gen 3SGTE
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 23, 2011 - 9:35 AM) *
>here's some info about the clutch
and some info about the axle spacer


this is useful info

thanks man

ive read most of it tho, the problem i had was reading in other forums and this one
there is differences in opinions and i was trying to sort out through opinion,
recommendations and actual useful info. also this clarification is great
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 23, 2011 - 10:25 AM) *
>well since you did the research then you already kno that Dr Tweak sells custom made clutches for this specific swap then right? for the 3sgte s54 combo

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...23pga15u24f7ac5

really depends on your power goals.. the s54 tranny is good up until like what 340whp guys? then is starts to reach its limit. its a shorter geared tranny as the e153 is a longer geared tranny and will hold up better in the long run. but to start off i would just go w the s54 and do the e153 down the road. its up to u.

research wink.gif



yea ive been to that page thats how i knew about the wiring harness and forgive me for not knowing everything thats on the page as i didnt go through every single section to verify absolutely everything he has on the website man.

thanks for pointing it out tho tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Fate @ May 23, 2011 - 10:39 AM) *
>For the most part, any clutch company will make you a custom setup if you call the company directly and ask. As far as what clutch you choose, that is going to be based off personal preference and other experiences. Taken directly from my swap thread:

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>This week I also got my clutch in the mail. I decided to go with a SPEC Stage 3+ sprung full faced clutch. Even though I read a lot of bad with SPEC and the springs exploding..etc (all over mr2oc) I have a few friends running it with no problems. Plus, a lot of the exploding springs were on the 6 puck from what i could tell-too much free motion i suppose in the tranny. Also anyone looking to buy from SPEC directly, deal with Jeremy. He was nothing but help and was well aware of the combination we need for the 5sfe transmission (3sgte pressure plate, 5sfe clutch, 5sfe throwout bearing and alignment tool).


I hate to beat a dead horse, but simply glazing over this thread it is clear that you need to do more research. You'd be amazed how many topics cover the same questions you're asking and they are answered with great detail. I do understand wanting to get an answer immediately, especially when in the process of the swap itself, but you are still in the planning phases. Take the time now to read/take notes so that you don't end up stuck later on waiting on a reply that will be brief and undetailed since it was most likely answered years ago. The amount of knowledge on present day 6gc.net about the different swaps is amazing. When i first joined the site, there were a select few (lagos, dg performance) that had swapped 2nd gen's because 3rd gens were just way too expensive ($5,000++). Take advantage of the site and everything it has to offer.



and theres also that much more useless ones that just bring confusion and misunderstanding
therefore i NEED to ask to clear the confusion that too much reading causes.

its better to get a straight forward answer plus to be honest most of my questions have not been answered in any post and i loo more for opinions than answers as i post what i understand and ask if its rights so nope you better read the post again as you my friend need to read better and not speed read
ok guys, last topic on the tranny this is whats gonnamke my mind up
so i did some figures to see which one is more reasonable for what am getting


this is a price compare list all prices are roundabouts


Comparison

E-153 mr2 turbo

tranny = 300-750
GT4 shifter cables = have it
3sgte disk = 300-450
3sgte pressure plate=
3sgte flywheel= have it
axles= 200-400 batman said st185/mr2 combo would st205/mr2 combo work? remmbr have a frnt clip
gt4 tranny mount= have it

total = 800-1500



GT tranny or 3SGE = 300
GT shifter cables= ?? 20-50 ??
5sfe/3sge disk kit = 400
3sgte flywheel = have it
5sfe Axels= 200
GT mounts= 250-400
total = 1100-1500


from what im seein the e153 could potentially be more cost effective for me if not the same as the gt tranny

what are your thoughts? did i miss something? my estimates off?

dont need lectures or do research comments, if your not gonna give usefull feedback dont leave any
all i need is verification of my estimates
ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

st205 powered ss3 coupe
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 24, 2011 - 11:11 PM) *
>ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.



thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?
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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 25, 2011 - 12:14 AM) *
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 24, 2011 - 11:11 PM) *
>ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.



thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?


not 100% sure and dont wanna give you false info but check at the bottom of dustins (batmans) first post on his swap thread and i believe it says what he used, which is what most people use for that tranny combo. click on his profile and theres a link on his profile to his thread.

st205 powered ss3 coupe
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 25, 2011 - 12:25 AM) *
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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 25, 2011 - 12:14 AM) *
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 24, 2011 - 11:11 PM) *
>ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.



thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?


not 100% sure and dont wanna give you false info but check at the bottom of dustins (batmans) first post on his swap thread and i believe it says what he used, which is what most people use for that tranny combo. click on his profile and theres a link on his profile to his thread.



yea he already told me st185 alltrac outers, but i would like to know if i could use my st205 outers save some money and time money i can spend elsewhere
plus i wanna transpalnt most of my st205 parts like the discs breaks suspension and anything else to make it as bolt on as possible, maybe i should jus look into the diff between the axles in the st185 and the st205
no you cannot use the st205 axles, they are completely different and will not work with either tranny.
If you could of used them I would of posted that.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
yea i figured that everythin is worth givin a try tho.
like i said b4 ill jus go with what works, but also trying
to use as many parts off my clip as possible to not
have alot of things left behind so bear with me

what would be the best place to get them? as much as to not get junk parts that will break quick
junkyard? havent heard many possitives new is always better right wink.gif anyone have good experiences?
forums? might take a while
shop? do they even havem? anyone know? maybe if am lucky theyll have one side? lol
ebay? eeeehhhhhh it works? anything to look out for to get the right part?

the spacer ive read of getting it not much of where or how? any specifics? do i gotta buy somethin else? or is it within the 4 axles?

is non lsd even worth it? lol everyone says go lsd opinions?

ill probably hunt the tranny down by this weekend as well as other parts

what CAN i use out of the awd tranny? cables, rear mount,flywheel? some say you have to get it resurfaced
am i missing somethin?

regular turbo clutch or stage 3 biggrin.gif or 6 puck bowdown.gif
i know what they do but if i plan on not going up on HP or boost do i really need a 6 puck? probably not dont need a lecture
looking more for experiences of how a stock turbo clutch holds compared to a stage 3 or above

Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you are only going to be make it a FWD. The shifter cables are different, clutch and flywheel are different, mounts are different. The axles you can pick up from autozone. I got mine for about $180 and that's after the core charges were dropped. So if you don't have axles to give to them, you're looking upwards of $225 for both axles. Not to mention, you do not want to have drum brakes in the rear after you do the swap.

This post has been edited by mkernz22: May 25, 2011 - 9:04 AM
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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ May 25, 2011 - 9:03 AM) *
>Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you are only going to be make it a FWD. The shifter cables are different, clutch and flywheel are different, mounts are different. The axles you can pick up from autozone. I got mine for about $180 and that's after the core charges were dropped. So if you don't have axles to give to them, you're looking upwards of $225 for both axles. Not to mention, you do not want to have drum brakes in the rear after you do the swap.


I though the rear mount off the gt4 was used for the e153 tranny and the gt4 cables now am confused anyways mike pm me ur number if u dont mind so i can reach u quicker wen i finally get the wing off lol
for the e153, you do in fact use the rear mount off the st205 trans along with the shifter cables.

The "Fly Low" Project: 3rd Gen 3SGTE
How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences
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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 26, 2011 - 12:39 PM) *
>How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences


that depends on your power goals.. i hate to say this bro but theres alot of research to be done and alot of these answers to these questions are in the stickies..

first step bro.. is pick a tranny, once you pick a tranny then we can help you bc alot of these questions depends on which tranny your going to use. theres certain things you need and dont need for each combo. pick a tranny then we can help lol other wise we will b spinning u in circles and you will get more and more confused and have a hard time with your swap.

st205 powered ss3 coupe
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 26, 2011 - 4:26 PM) *
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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 26, 2011 - 12:39 PM) *
>How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences


that depends on your power goals.. i hate to say this bro but theres alot of research to be done and alot of these answers to these questions are in the stickies..

first step bro.. is pick a tranny, once you pick a tranny then we can help you bc alot of these questions depends on which tranny your going to use. theres certain things you need and dont need for each combo. pick a tranny then we can help lol other wise we will b spinning u in circles and you will get more and more confused and have a hard time with your swap.



Again friend thanks for the input but read closely and u will see i chose the mr2
Tranny cus it would cost just about the same again my questions are unique
Am not looking for how a stock clutch is ddifferent from an after market or
How tge clutch stages differ and all thati wanna know
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE NOT THEORY OR FACTS EXPERIENCES
Of how the clutch holds up again read closely i said im not going to
Go crazy on boost so im staying at the stock power
Im looking for people that have used the stock clutch and can say its good
Stick with it or it sucks better get an aftermarket u find a post that specifically
Answers my question just link it as batman did and dont say anythin else
Ive obviously looked n i dnt plan to spend or have the time to spend10 hours
For somethin someone can answer in 10 secs

Thanks for your contribution
I'm out.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap