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Topic #78064 377 posts Started by BonzaiCelica
yea it was surprisingly cheap also. at $185 including CA tax thats pretty good. no rough idle either. It weighs 3.6 pounds lighter than oem which isn't much. not sure how much of an affect it has just yet. still taking it easy on the new clutch.

>>>>also do you guys think this shifter cable needs replacing???>>>>



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 7, 2012 - 1:25 AM

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yes why wait for that thing to break since you already have the car down fix it
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 9, 2011 - 6:23 PM) *
>here you go delusionz im not redlining my gears as I'll make a video for that later. But tell me if you notice how off my speedometer is. I'm in 5th Gear



here is a youtube video so you can compare. note the rpm gauge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrTfiXIddls

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I swapped the helical lsd into my original open differential beams manual transmission s54. The guy at the transmission shop told me ring and pinion count was the same for both transmission but when I recorded this video it proved otherwise. The new video is the latest update. view both video please for reference!!>
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Both video are 11,000 miles apart so yes tire wear might have to due with it a little, but the rpm are 400-500rpm difference when going 85 mph!!>
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This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 21, 2012 - 6:43 PM

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Yes. 3600rpm is unusually high for 110km/h, the 2nd video looks better

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
interesting conclusion. I'm guessing your happy with it now?

At the time when I came up with the reason why the speed/revs was different. I was basing it on what you'd told us S54 transmission with a MR-S LSD. Put the numbers into a calculator and they matched to what was happening in the video. But if your happy with it now, 'rev vs speed' and a smoother feeling transmission. all good thumbsup.gif

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my question is which one of these is the pinion so I can can't the teeth!! but your mention of it being a mrs helica lsd still doesn't make sense. When the guy pulled apart both transmission he said ring count was the same for both lsd and open differential. Yet now with the car driving the gears are that like a normal s54 transmission. >>Can it be that the pinion teeth count is different on this transmission thats below in the picture, can you point out to me what internal transmission part is the pinion???!!!
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Very interesting I have learned something new about the ring and pinion compatability between the S and C series transmission. However dont get so cocky yet lol... read on and you'll see that there is nothing in that thread which shows why that trans seems to be geared lower/shorter then a stock 6th gen GT. If anything it would be geared longer... which is what u where saying right?

If not then then yes it is possible ur car is geared higher/longer then a stock gt but i doubt its that of the custom work and probably because that trans is NOT an S54 but an S51... if it is an S54 then its the 71/18 = 3.94444 version. But this would lead to better performance since it would take advantage of your higher redline as well as the increase in power and torque. It might also lead to better fuel economy.

"The 4.176 S54 has 17 teeth on the output shaft driven gear and 71 teeth on the ring gear."
These are the s54's that are in the gt 6th gens.

"The Corolla's C59 uses a 67 tooth ring gear with a 17 tooth drive gear for 3.941. This is the perfect match for the S54's 17 tooth drive gear."

"So this gives the S54 with 17 teeth these possible differential gear ratios: 3.941, 4.058, and 4.176"

smaller the number the higher the gear.

so if you had the c59 ring gear then your car would be geared higher.

"It might be possible to use the 19 tooth output shaft from the C150 in the S series transmission, but that compatibility has not been proven. You'd also have to press the gears off each output shaft, which can be time consuming or expensive. These are only possibilities, not actualities. Gear lash between the output shaft pinion gear and the ring gear will be affected if you change one without changing the other. The gear lash may be too great for your particular application, like if you switched to a 67 tooth ring gear when the pinion gear was designed for a 71 tooth, and such. Compatibility has not been proven with such ring gears in the S transmissions as gear lash must be considered and measured."

I find it unlikely, but not impossible someone would have gone through this trouble. If they did however it would still lead to a higher final drive as "C150 3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 Diff: 3.526" Still higher then stock.

In fact looking at the numbers on that thread the s54 in the 6th gens has the lowest final drive of all of the options.

.... and then i saw ur post all the way down at the bottom.

"lets not forget the C160 and C60 final drive gear ratio. I have a 4.529 final drive gear ratio currently in my S54 Helical LSD transmission. Greater acceleration!! "

So your saying someone pressed the gears of of each output shaft and swapped out the output shaft and ring gear from a C160 or C60 trans into that transmission I sold you... Perhaps but ill believe it when i see pictures of the ring and pinion gear.

and yes I'm happy with it now!! I don't think i'll ever get the money to buy a standalone ecu. Once the larger diameter wheels are fitted I'll have slightly longer gears. just want better air/fuel ratio rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 11, 2012 - 2:46 PM

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top left on the first shaft I'm pretty sure

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intsalled these today. good upgrade and fairly cheap as well. stiffer front feel biggrin.gif
they should have came with the grease fitting like you see in trdproven end link install thread. I just got unlucky and got the earlier version, even though I also ordered it from the same place as trdproven (rockauto)



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2013 - 4:27 PM

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someones got them a gsxr
hey i was thinking, do you use the factory wiring for your fuel pump? if you do, does it still retain a resistor pack? if your running full power to the fuel pump it might explain why yours is noisy,

through the factory wiring your fuel pump should only see 11.something volts?

oh, those are some odd looking endlinks you got there, they look like dumb bells lol. do you have upgraded swaybars too? what would be next? reinforcing the thin little mounting tabs on your coilovers? lol

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QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 26, 2012 - 5:59 AM) *
>hey i was thinking, do you use the factory wiring for your fuel pump? if you do, does it still retain a resistor pack? if your running full power to the fuel pump it might explain why yours is noisy,

through the factory wiring your fuel pump should only see 11.something volts?

oh, those are some odd looking endlinks you got there, they look like dumb bells lol. do you have upgraded swaybars too? what would be next? reinforcing the thin little mounting tabs on your coilovers? lol


yea I used factory wiring for my fuel pump. I had to use factor connector. So I cut the oem one and crimped the two walbro wires onto the factory connector. I'm getting a 11.1 air/fuel ratio. I actually picked up an oem fuel pump from junkyard with 109,000 miles. Should be installing that thing very soon.

yea the endlinks are thick. I'd say better than any other end-link available on the market. scroll up to the top of the page and you'll see my front green sway bar. I have a rear suspension technique sway bar as well. haha naw they wouldn't be strong enough to rip them off!

oo slight update. So the mechanic across the street said that shifter cable ^^^^ will be just fine for a little while more. So I wrapped it with a few layers of electrical tape and then with gorilla duct tape, Adjusted my clutch pedal so it will fully disengage the clutch and Vuala! Now my shifts are as smooth as butter! biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jun 3, 2013 - 1:39 PM

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>>FROM this >>


>>>>to this:>>>>


At first I had hard time shifting in high revs and down shifting into 2nd and 4th. Then it was so bad I only had 1st, 3rd and 5th gear. HAd to push my car when in reverse (embarrassing). Then it got so bad that whenever I went into 5th gear it wouldn't want to come out. I was have to turn off the car and then move the shifter on the transmission in order to get it popped outta 5th gear. Now gears feel so precise and smooth.

Soon I'll be buying Dunlop Direzza DZ101 in 215/50R16. Still trying to get rid of my gt4 bumper and hood so I can fit the c-one replica bumper and oem hood. sale from hood and bumper will allow me to buy tires and have some monies left over for other things.

Sold walbro pump and stock oem pump is working just fine. ahh the silence, what a joy

and yea delusionz I'll be reinforcing the tabs on the control arm as soon as I break in my new summer tires. don't want this happening again :



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jun 3, 2013 - 12:52 PM

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glad to see you've finally fixed that cable thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 11, 2011 - 4:52 PM) *
>yup yup here it is :

also was shortening the fuel line from the fuel filter to the fuel rail and came out with this. Also buying that same line that goes from the fuel filter to the fuel rail from toyodiy is about $180 plus shipping. they are out of their minds. I should have no problems with this setup right?





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>Who the **** is this guy? And who made him jesus?



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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 16, 2011 - 8:05 PM) *
>lol, now ill go home and put the noose in my neck


i STAND BY MY EARLIER statement. There are two types of fuel lines. One is used for Carburetor engines low pressure fuel obviously(usually costs $1.50 a foot) and the other Fuel Injection Hose is meant for Fuel Injection Systems like our celica's (runs for $4.50-5.50 a foot!!)

this is what happens to a regular fuel line after 4,000 miles and 4 months of driving :



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2013 - 4:30 PM

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I figured the fuel filter (bottom port) is M14x1.5 , the banjo bolt on the fuel rail is M12x1.25, I will have

M14x1.5 to AN-6 adaptor, braided hose, AN-6 fittings, inline AN-6 fuel filter & AN-6 banjo

check out earl's over there in the US if you keen to splash some cash

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>>thx to richee I was able to get a oem beams fuel line as well as to batman because He told me the st fuel bracket will work just fine. Although one thing. the fuel filter bracket for the st does not completely hold the celica gt fuel filter because it is smaller. You can see by the pics, it was quite a hassle to try and fit the bracket around the filter correctly. Also found out fuel line goes in between head and intake manifold>>

>>>>Before : Here is the Stock GT FUel filter bracket and location. On the st celica's the fuel hard line is all curved, but the gt is straight!>>>>



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This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 19, 2012 - 10:37 PM

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I have the same issue. But it's definitely better than the setup I had before. Glad the fuel line is working for you!

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Crazy. I'm sorry the info I gave you wasn't 100%
Squeeze the shiz tighter or put something around the filter to hold it better.

I knew the ST bracket was further away from the frame rail than the GT.
I just looked it up and found out that the ST filter has a bigger diameter than the GT.
We put a new fuel filter in when we swapped the Beams in.

So I go out to the garage and pop the hood of my Beams and we're using a GT bracket and ST filter, (wtf ! I bet Stef told the parts guy at the dealer she needed a fuel filter for a 94 Celica and they just assumed ST - because her car is an ST) and the filter is wedged into the bracket and the bracket can't be bolted together. I can take a pic if you want, I have the opposite problem as you but mine isn't going anywhere.

Moral of the story, the GT bracket/filter does work if everything is routed properly with the correct hose, just use the filter to match the bracket, if not use the ST stuff.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
so this is still driving me up the wall only because I want to sell this final drive to a member in peru since he's raised his rev limit to 8,000 rpm and he's got super long gears, but this is what I've come up with.

>>>>The picture below is the car at 4,000 rpm at different speeds because of the different final drive gear ratios>>>>


This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jan 4, 2013 - 1:56 PM

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>>update: So i fitted the mevotech rear end links, but the fitment it quite odd is it safe?? I feel like bending the tab/mounting point on the strut so the end link can be more parallel to the shock. here the pix explain it:
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This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2013 - 4:33 PM

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Seems to me like the link is binding now.

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 3, 2013 - 10:38 AM) *
>Seems to me like the link is binding now.


the picture above is with the tires off the ground. although it looks the same while the tires are on the ground.

it was almost near impossible to put on the right end link. should I remove them and return them? these are meant for our cars. what gives?

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jan 7, 2013 - 3:28 PM

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so it turns out i had a 71 ring count on the lsd transmission I got from my friend here in los angeles. So my guess is that all celica that came with beams open differential and McPherson suspension ss2 models came with 3.944 final drive. the 3.944 is only found in 3rd gen 3sge engines.

but yes you guys are right stock s54 4.176 final drive gear ratio is short i'll say.

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>>>>Moog rear End links. oh yes i took one left hander turn and wow i'd say it handles like a Type r. but i still have yet to really test them out. I slightly bent the mounting tabs outward with a 10 inch vice grip in order to make sure the end link sat as parallel to the shock as possible>>




>>i could of updated my exterior parts update back in december 2012 but hesistated cause i hated the fact that the shop didnt cover up the front bumper grills and painted my radiator, horn, and subframe silver. but anyhow you get the idea!!! yea i deleted the sunroof so what. the shop didnt do that well of a job aligning the bumper perfectly to the body. but its a replica of a replica c-one bumper so they did the best they could. i'll probably get it remoldled perfectly after summer.>>>
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This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 16, 2013 - 9:30 PM

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Ugh, yeah wish I saw your fuel situation sooner, the lower pressure hose is definitely not ok for use on a fuel injection setup; unless its before the pump in an external pump setup, or after the regulator.

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I like your modded c-one bumper, came it out really good! would look sweet with a big ol' intercooler in its mouth haha. cars looking good man!

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Was going to say it's been awhile since I checked in, but it seems that'd be your case as well. tongue.gif How are you going to get the sun in your hair now though? redface.gif

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So jealous of your car. I've always wanted to have a red top in my car but I don't have that street "luxury" of getting it smogged in Cali like you did. Lol.

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>So jealous of your car. I've always wanted to have a red top in my car but I don't have that street "luxury" of getting it smogged in Cali like you did. Lol.

Move out to Alabama where car inspections, much less emissions, are nonexistent. tongue.gif

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>So jealous of your car. I've always wanted to have a red top in my car but I don't have that street "luxury" of getting it smogged in Cali like you did. Lol.

Move out to Alabama where car inspections, much less emissions, are nonexistent. tongue.gif


Ya over in GreenBow where you can become a Shrimp Boat Captain laugh.gif

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