As promised, jimbo, heres the build thread for the 'trac.
ill let you fill in the story of how you aquired it, ect, im just gonna post pics and info as i go about doing the work for ya.

so, lets get this show on the road!

first, jim came up friday with a '93 alltrac, that had a blown motor with no head on it, attached to the AWD tranny, hanging in the bay by only the drivers side mount.
in the back of his truck was a 3rd gen 3s setup, WRC tranny, and some random parts for the swap.

we got the car in the garage, and once i got the hood off and stared in amazement for a few moments, i started getting ready to litterally drop the motor out the bottom.
the crossmember and stuff was already out, all i had to do was remove the shifter cables, clutch line, and speedo gear.
i took out the 3 bolts holding the tranny bracket to the mount, and out it came with a thud.
joe gave me a hand pulling it out from underneath, we hung out for awhile, and that was that for friday night.
saturday morning, we went out and pulled the motor and stuff off the back of the truck, and got it into the garage.
the motor had parts of a TD06 turbo kit on it, and jim and i walked thru how he wanted it setup, and off they went.
today, i went out and got to work.
sorry for the blurry pics, for some reason my camara dont like to take pics under the floresent lights.

the bad 2nd gen and tranny



engine bay



the new motor (i had already clocked the turbo closer to where it will be in these pics)





minor clearance issue



whats wrong with this pic?



hrmm..a little gasket maker?



clearance issue solved, so lets make a screamer pipe!!

clearance to oil return line





waiting on more pipe to finish it off.



alltrac rear mount and bracket, and speedo gear along side the 205 speedo gear





i LOVE having a parts washer.



i bolted that and the tranny bracket on the WRC, and called it a night.
tommorow, i should have the parts to put timing belt side back together.
jim i hope you sent the upper timing belt backing plate (the one that bolts to the valve cover) cause i dont have one here.

WOW Manny, You aren't wasting anytime...YOU ARE THE BEST.

I love the way the scream pipe came out, looks great.

WOW! Parts look new again after being in the parts washer. You really do spectacular work Manny, you really take pride in your work. I wouldn't trust my cars to anyone else.

No, I didn't include a Valve cover baking plate, I didn't realize I didn't give it to you. I will send that up tomorrow for you. I look forward to watching the progression of this build as much as I anticipate driving it.

For those that will follow this thread, you will have plenty to read and view in the few weeks/months...as Manny and I have a few VERY nice projects lined up.

And I cant say it enough, Manny.....YOU ARE THE BEST!!!

I'm looking forward to this!

MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE also!!!!

thanks, jimbo, i wanna get this one done ASAP!
im hoping to have the motor in the bay by the weekend, i cant install the timing stuff without the backing plate, for some reason your cams and caps do not have the notch that every 3sgte ive ever seen has!
ill snap a couple pics for ya tommorow.

Manny gets to have all the fun!

Nice!!!

thats BA!

This post has been edited by Ted95: Nov 9, 2010 - 10:38 PM

saweeeeet!!!! ....i miss Jim and Shannon

so yesterday, i went out and got a bunch more stuff done, and a package with more parts arrive for me to install today.

heres the progress

installed the a/c compressor, and alt bracket



retapped some damaged threads on the passanger mount





OMG filthy crossmembers







much easier to work with when they are like this:



whoops wrong rear main seal (old one on top, you can see how the new one is just a bit smaller)



and a little bracket i made to hold the dipstick since the WG is in the way a bit.



ordered all the intercooler piping, couplers and clamps, and tune up parts last night, im hoping to have everything here by the weekend so i can button up the motor and get it in the bay.

Subscribed.

Your projects are always so exciting. Can't wait to start my own... or even finish some. (ie the damn tranny swap)

Damn Manny!! You never stop with these awesome projects! Mr2 rolls out, alltrac rolls right in afterwards. Should be an awesome swap Can we expect one of those famous presure2 beautifully built exhausts for this beast?

What is the wiring like on one of these swap?

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Nov 10, 2010 - 4:17 PM

im just building the b-pipe, the rest of the exhaust is already there.
im not sure what the wiring is like, jim had the wiring done by tweak.

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UH OHHH!!! hahahha just kiding, im sure it will be just fine.

How about some pictures of the donor??? gotta love the 5th Gen all-tracs, im going to take a wild guess and say its black?

good work, Man i would kill for a garage and some room.

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I own, have swapped, wired, and seen dozens of swapped Celicas. So I am a bit particular when it comes to my own cars. And I cant say enough good things about Tweaks work. The guys over at Phoneix tuning are truly ARTISTS when it comes to wiring, and they are PROVEN setups. When I got my harness back, I went threw it and it was IMACUALTE! I have no worries that I will be chasing wiring gremlins, I have no worries my harness/car will catch fire, and I have no worries that it will fail me. I know that when I get a harness back from Tweak...IT IS DONE, and WELL above a standard of satisfactory. Tweaks work is above average, even on a professional grade.

I would recommened him to anyone, he is the best at what he does...there is no way around that.

thats good to hear, jim, i know there were a lot of people with wireing problems way back in the hay day when these swaps were very new to us, but im sure doing them over and over that it has become a lot easier to diagnoise if there are problems that arise.

Im sure that if i swaped again, i would do a 3rd gen for may simple reasons, including the wireing which i would be able to do myself.

PICTURES!

i've never seen a swap that tweak did the harness on that had issues. since this is a 205 into a alltrac, the wiring is more complicated than a 205 swap in a 6th gen, which is MUCH easier.
DG, and mikes were a diffrent story.
tweak does excellent work, he just did a bodyharness for my cousins mr2 project and it was 100% plug and play perfect.
anyway..
the progress for today...
got ready to install the cam gears and timing belt, we recently tried this new "gel" threadlock from permatex. this is the threadlocker i will buy from now on, its absolutly the bomb.
the liquid stuff tends to be runny, hard to tell if there is enough on there, ect.
this stuff being a gel sticks on the bolts, and dont run off, less waste, and works great. i like the blue, cause it holds everything together well enough, but dont permanantly lock things together.



i had to retap the lower tensioner bolt hole, you can see the damaged threads in this pic



somthing odd about this particular motor. every 3s ive ever seen has notches on the back of the cam caps, and cams, to line them up for timing.
this motor does not have them.



cam gears and t-belt installed



im also going to be installing an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, so i took a pic as i was removing the stock FPR.



we are going to run it in a "deadhead" setup, where the stock return line is eliminated, by using the return on the areomotive FPR.
in a stock setup, the fuel runs like this:
pump - filter - rail - regulator - return
the new configuration will go
pump - filter - regulator - rail, with the return coming out of the regulator.
the main reason to do it that way for me is just ease of install, and its proven to work just as well if not better than the stock setup, also there are less fittings and line this way which makes it cheaper.
more to come, tommorow we pull the fuel tank!

this morning, my cousin joe came by and we pulled out the fuel tank
some pics

eww rust!









getting ready to clean it up some







better

coated



painted







now im just waiting on an install kit for the walbro pump jim sent up, and ill reinstall it!

Manny,

Nice job getting that tank outta there. What did you coat it with before the black layer?

Thanks again for the latch, should work out great!

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That is odd. Wonder if those are somehow not stock cams.

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jesse, i used rubberized undercoating, then painted it black (i dont like the brown look, even if you cant see it! lol)

yea, idk art...they have toyota pt# stamps on them...odd.

FPR line stuff will arrive today, and the rest of the motor parts should arrive tommorow, pics then!

imma go out to the garage in a bit and start installing jims AFPR, and making the lines up for it.
if the toyota parts arrive, ill install the rear main, and install the tranny too.
jim also asked me to do a battery relocation to the trunk, so i'll order a battery tray this weekend and start preping for that as well.

kinda bummed, the parts didnt arrive from lithia today like i thought they would.

Thats what you get for shopping at lithia! lol j/k

Are they some how 3sge cams? IIRC i had the same issues with a 1st gen 3sge head not having the notch and divot.

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crap, do you have the gen3 parts in stock art? i definetly will keep you in mind, im sure i'll have to order somthing sooner or later..lol

will, i dont know. jim just gave me the motorset to install.
i dont know the history of it at all.

manny, can u access the fuel pump by removing the back seat like you can on the 6th gen, or is it just better to drop the tank? on both the 5th and 6th gen? jw still havent done mine yet

This post has been edited by Ted95: Nov 13, 2010 - 7:40 PM

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no.
since its an alltrac, the gas tank isnt under the back seat, its where the spare goes, near the bumper.