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Ted95
#31
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 13, 2010 - 10:20 PM) *
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Nov 13, 2010 - 8:40 PM) *
>manny, can u access the fuel pump by removing the back seat like you can on the 6th gen, or is it just better to drop the tank? on both the 5th and 6th gen? jw still havent done mine yet

no.
since its an alltrac, the gas tank isnt under the back seat, its where the spare goes, near the bumper.


ohho ok that makes sense
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presure2
#32
built a bracket for th AFPR, and started mocking it all up, and installed the fuel pump and reinstalled the tank.
pics.

the bracket for the AFPR from aeromotive





some of the AFPR install parts



test fit..needed to order a couple diffrent fittings, at least summit has a great return policy!







and the installed fuel pump




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jcbass7
#33
Looking great Manny, I'll have to come see this again soon. Which battery tray did you go with? the kind we were talking about?
presure2
#34
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Nov 16, 2010 - 12:14 PM) *
>Looking great Manny, I'll have to come see this again soon. Which battery tray did you go with? the kind we were talking about?

thanks J, your welcome at th garage anytime.

yup, im working on somthing special for this one, im hoping it works out. wink.gif
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_Jim_
#35
Manny, great work as usual! I love the way the AFPR is coming out. Nothing sets off a build like some new SS lines biggrin.gif
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presure2
#36
last night, i installed the rear main, valve cover, and installed the tranny.

for some reason, once the tranny is on (which by the way, installing a AWD tranny BLOWS.) the motor will no longer turn.
that means, today, i have to go pull that bitch back off, and figure out why.


jim, if i cant get this one to work, imma just use jeremeys tranny.
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KAOS
#37
I have a tranny?

Thats amazing!







... lol - had to comment sry.
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presure2
#38
got the tranz off, input shaft spins freely, motor spins freely...looks like it may have been hitting the throw out fork...gotta reinstall it to find out.
grrrr
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jcbass7
#39
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2010 - 2:21 PM) *
>got the tranz off, input shaft spins freely, motor spins freely...looks like it may have been hitting the throw out fork...gotta reinstall it to find out.
grrrr


hang in there Manny, it will be worth it in the end when this beast is running
Ted95
#40
thats a tough hit, takin it off once was a bitch enough for me, cant imagine puttin it back on to take it back off lol, that blows. good luck my dude.
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presure2
#41
so, it was the fork.
seems like in the process of installing the tranny, it slipped forward and got caught in the PP.

resinstalled it, and all is well.

got the tune up parts, and fuel filter, so i was able to finalize the AFPR install, and got the harness on, tommorow ill throw the last few parts on and get it into the bay.
a few pics

the motor



fuel stuff





smile.gif
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mkernz22
#42
WOO! that's coming along great man!
If you need any help at all just let me know, I'm close by and I'm eager to learn as well! haha
Not sure when you're going to install it, but if it's friday or saturday afternoon/ night I can swing by and give you a hand
Ted95
#43
what kind of downpipe is that? did u make it?

This post has been edited by Ted95: Nov 17, 2010 - 9:09 PM
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presure2
#44
its the ATS downpipe for the td06
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presure2
#45
motor is in.
all thats left is everything else. wink.gif
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richee3
#46
Great thread! I would say that I can't wait to see this car finished, but I'd be lying. I want to see every single step in between now and the finish. You guys always do the best work! thumbsup.gif
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presure2
#47
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 18, 2010 - 3:10 PM) *
>Great thread! I would say that I can't wait to see this car finished, but I'd be lying. I want to see every single step in between now and the finish. You guys always do the best work! thumbsup.gif

thanks man...now that the motor is in the bay, things should get good quick...i've got a huge FMIC to mount, IC piping and an intake to fab up, fuel lines to finish...it should make for some good posts over the next week or so.
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KAOS
#48
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 18, 2010 - 2:05 PM) *
>motor is in.
all thats left is everything else. wink.gif



Pft - one of these swaps, you guys need to take a video of yourselves dropping an engine in.

Just so I can see exactly how "easy" you make it seem... lol. thumbsup.gif
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presure2
#49
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QUOTE (KAOS @ Nov 18, 2010 - 3:31 PM) *
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 18, 2010 - 2:05 PM) *
>motor is in.
all thats left is everything else. wink.gif



Pft - one of these swaps, you guys need to take a video of yourselves dropping an engine in.

Just so I can see exactly how "easy" you make it seem... lol. thumbsup.gif

haha, my cousin and i were talking last night about how i should have a cam out there going while im working and just stream it to web
lmao

just ordered aerocatch flush mount hood catches for the hood, they are pretty sweet, jim noticed them on pat c's 800whp, 200+MPH alltrac.

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Ted95
#50
sweeet, cant wait to see the pics! did u shoot the bay too?
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richee3
#51
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QUOTE (KAOS @ Nov 18, 2010 - 3:31 PM) *
>you guys need to take a video of yourselves dropping an engine in.

Shortest video ever... It only takes them 38 seconds to do an engine swap on the Upper North East Coast.
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BonzaiCelica
#52
how about if someone put a 5th generation beams blacktop with dual VVT-I from the altezza in the GT-Four. Being that it has VVT-I would it be able to produce more hp than the 3rd gen 3sgte if it were set up correctly. By this I mean low comp pistons yada yada blah blah. Wouldn't you be able to get a better tune with VVT-I or is the vvt-i on the intake and exhaust removed once you pass 500 hp??
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Ted95
#53
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 18, 2010 - 9:24 PM) *
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QUOTE (KAOS @ Nov 18, 2010 - 3:31 PM) *
>you guys need to take a video of yourselves dropping an engine in.

Shortest video ever... It only takes them 38 seconds to do an engine swap on the Upper North East Coast.



LMAO !!! seems like it huh with how many have been done up here

This post has been edited by Ted95: Nov 18, 2010 - 11:47 PM
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presure2
#54




need to talk to jim, i have more stuff to post later.

now that the motor is in, there are some fitment issues with the ATS downpipe, and the turbo itself hits the fan shroud.

this is about to get ugly, quick..lol
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presure2
#55
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 18, 2010 - 10:16 PM) *
>how about if someone put a 5th generation beams blacktop with dual VVT-I from the altezza in the GT-Four. Being that it has VVT-I would it be able to produce more hp than the 3rd gen 3sgte if it were set up correctly. By this I mean low comp pistons yada yada blah blah. Wouldn't you be able to get a better tune with VVT-I or is the vvt-i on the intake and exhaust removed once you pass 500 hp??

everyone WANTS a custom, one off setup like that...noone wants to PAY for the legwork, research, mechanical, and fabrication to get it done. wink.gif
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lagos
#56
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>now that the motor is in, there are some fitment issues with the ATS downpipe, and the turbo itself hits the fan shroud.


I had to grind the shroud when I installed the mishimoto radiator on mine, and the 5th gen has even less engine bay room than that! lol
Looks like its time for a set of low profile fans!

Really cool project btw. Id love to have a real alltrac!
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presure2
#57
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QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 19, 2010 - 8:43 AM) *
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>now that the motor is in, there are some fitment issues with the ATS downpipe, and the turbo itself hits the fan shroud.


I had to grind the shroud when I installed the mishimoto radiator on mine, and the 5th gen has even less engine bay room than that! lol
Looks like its time for a set of low profile fans!

Really cool project btw. Id love to have a real alltrac!

yea, lo pro fan would definetly help, im pretty sure jim had one from shannons 5s project back in the day, ill have to see if he still has it.

and yea, man..this engine bay is TIGHT... i found myself looking for pics of pats engine bay to see how he fit everything...now i know why he has one of those civic 1/2 rads, and the sidewinder manifold...lol
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presure2
#58
fitment issues are resolved, im just gonna move the fan over a couple inches and reconfigure the piping a bit to get it to work.
i ran out of batteries for the camara, so ill get some tommorow, and take some pics then.
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BonzaiCelica
#59
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 19, 2010 - 7:46 AM) *
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 18, 2010 - 10:16 PM) *
>how about if someone put a 5th generation beams blacktop with dual VVT-I from the altezza in the GT-Four. Being that it has VVT-I would it be able to produce more hp than the 3rd gen 3sgte if it were set up correctly. By this I mean low comp pistons yada yada blah blah. Wouldn't you be able to get a better tune with VVT-I or is the vvt-i on the intake and exhaust removed once you pass 500 hp??

everyone WANTS a custom, one off setup like that...noone wants to PAY for the legwork, research, mechanical, and fabrication to get it done. wink.gif


as so then the build would be well worth it, thats the answer I'm getting from you ok thanks.
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presure2
#60
finished up the fuel line install, and spent a couple hrs working on the ignitor and coil bracket.

when tweak did the harness work, he did not set it up to work in the alltrac chassis.
on the alltrac, the ignitor and coil are not attached to the firewall together, like the 6th gen.
since the harness was left as if it were going in a 6th gen chassis, the wiring for the ignitor and coil were together, and wouldnt reach the stock location on the alltrac.
so, i cut up a few brackets, and made one to hold both the ignitor and coil together, like the 6th gen.

pics.

finalized fuel line install:





and the ignitor/coil bracket







and a quick pic showing the start of the piping route for the IC



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