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QUOTE (Rusty @ Mar 27, 2011 - 3:59 PM)

>Would be good if you have time to take measurements so we can compare.

No worries. What measurements are you after?
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the same above measurements so...
The twin piston caliper specs (SS-II BEAMS):
Piston Diameter:
Piston Count: 2
Total Piston Area: mm2 (cm2)
and rotor specs
circumference
diameter
width
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this Sticky thread is useless without pictures!!! norberto jump on it.
Which brings me to another topic, hey S8S8 can you give us that answer. We are curious to know whether SS-II Beams and SS-III Superstrut Twin Piston Brake Calipers are the same size???
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 22, 2011 - 11:49 PM)

>this Sticky thread is useless without pictures!!! norberto jump on it.
Dude, you are so needy, just like andrew, are you sure you two are not brothers.
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jun 23, 2011 - 10:34 AM)

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 22, 2011 - 11:49 PM)

>this Sticky thread is useless without pictures!!! norberto jump on it.
Dude, you are so needy, just like andrew, are you sure you two are not brothers.
ya i know right sorry man. Did you change to flickr. Must be an age thing....
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 23, 2011 - 2:49 PM)

>this Sticky thread is useless without pictures!!! norberto jump on it.
Which brings me to another topic, hey S8S8 can you give us that answer. We are curious to know whether SS-II Beams and SS-III Superstrut Twin Piston Brake Calipers are the same size???
I'll be changing the pads soon and will run the measurements then.
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measurements of the twin piston calipers on SS-II Mcpherson Beams Celica???
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QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 22, 2010 - 3:37 AM)

>Out of curiosity... what is your interest in bigger brakes... what are the current symptoms that you curing with a 2 pot caliper?
Those look like Calipers from a ST165, no? Probably not as they allegedly bolt up without issue.
if this is true someone over on alltrac.net did a write up on how to use tacoma brakes on a st 165/185
i have a set of front gt st204 calipers and i think a set of st185 calipers... perhaps ill measure them when i get a chance.... i also have access to st205 front calipers. maybe ill see what i come up with.
This post has been edited by urbandork: Sep 24, 2011 - 8:23 PM
is fensport correct??
if you see this link you see that they mention the ST202 Superstrut Celica, AE111 Corolla Superstrut, MR2 Rev 3 N/A and MR2 Rev 3sgte all use the same brake pads
http://www.fensport.co.uk/Parts/Model_14/Category_11/2672but if you take a looky here on toydiy you can see that the pads from 1999 Celica SS-III Superstrut only share common part numbers with carinna and corona cars.
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/xref?v=J_1999...mp;s=0446520230Here is the ST202 Mcpherson SS-II twin pot pads.
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/xref?v=J_1998...mp;s=0446520470here is 1990-1995 SW20 3sgte MR2
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/s?v=U_1993_TO...1%E2%80%9117160brake pad : 04491‑17160for some reason I can't find any part numbers for the Corolla AE111 brake pads. toydiy does not list part #'s
ST202 SS-II Beams Mcpherson brake pads : Part 04465‑20470
ST202 SS-III Beams Superstrut brake pads : Part 04465‑20230
or so I think damn I'm so confused.
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>>>MR2 Turbo pad >>>>

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to my understanding they look ohh so similar!

ahemm what do you think richee???
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Those do look pretty similar. Only one way to find out! If my SS-III brakes don't get shipped out soon, I'll definitely measure every aspect of the pads to see how close they are.
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what are we comparing? maybe i can help/
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 30, 2011 - 3:38 PM)

>what are we comparing? maybe i can help/
SS-III pads vs 93+ MR2 turbo pads. scroll through this whole thread again you'll be able to remember everything. My pics are on the previous page fyi
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Yes the MR2 turbo pads do fit the ST202 twin pots, I said a while back in richee3's thread that they might. I wanted to find a thread on another site, where this person had mr2 pads on ST202 twin pots to confirm it. Plus the TRD pads part numbers confirm aswell
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Dec 31, 2011 - 12:04 AM)

>Yes the MR2 turbo pads do fit the ST202 twin pots, I said a while back in richee3's thread that they might. I wanted to find a thread on another site, where this person had mr2 pads on ST202 twin pots to confirm it. Plus the TRD pads part numbers confirm aswell
yes Rusty you are right thanks for the confirmation
MR2 page
http://www.trdparts.jp/english/list_mr2.htmlCelica ST202 Page
http://www.trdparts.jp/english/list_st-celica.htmlpart number for pads : 04491-SW210Here is some more confirmation as well :
http://www.fensport.co.uk/Parts/Model_27/Category_11/2672http://www.rhdjapan.com/sard-type-a-front-...ds-toyota-13745
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So as following specs are you can see that they do sell SS-III twin calipers online in which seemed to be refurbished
The twin piston caliper specs (SS-III):
Piston Diameter: 40.4mm
Piston Count: 2
Total Piston Area: 2563.79mm2 (25.6379cm2)
http://www.brakepartssuperstore.org.uk/con...-uk/d11440.html
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a guy on mr2 boards mentioned the twin piston front calipers on turbo MK2 are biased towards the rear (hence MR Engine)
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I'm pretty we can use 1st gen (94-97) Avalon Twin pot calipers.
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Awesome information!!
anyone ever find out if the 4runner ones fit? I think they are 2 or 4piston...
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QUOTE (SXA10 @ Aug 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM)

>I'm pretty we can use 1st gen (94-97) Avalon Twin pot calipers.
http://rav4gtt.files.wordpress.com/2012/08...ontcaliper.jpegI can confirm this fits on these 1st Gen (94-97) Avalon or w/ABS Twin Pot Calipers, do in fact fit Celica GT Brake Bracket perfectly!!
From the info I've gathered, these calipers came on the following cars:
95 - 97 Toyota Avalon w/ABS
94 - 96 Toyota Camry V6 w/ABS
94 - 96 Lexus ES300
Caliper specs:
Piston Diameter: 43.5mm
Piston Count: 2
Total Piston Area: 2902.93mm2 (29.0293cm2)
This post has been edited by SXA10: Sep 23, 2012 - 1:28 PM
is that all avalons or which specific models??
do you have pictures of it mounted on the car with stock 275mm gt brake rotors
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 20, 2012 - 2:19 PM)

>WHY DID YOU PUT AVALON (SS-III)(I only say this not to confuse new members) when an avalon is not a celica?? is that all avalons or which specific models??
do you have pictures of it mounted on the car with stock 275mm gt brake rotors
I've made the appropriate changes to make it clearer.
I have pics but this is for a different Toyota vehicle and I think you'd agree, I shouldn't confuse anyone. I can only confirm they'll fit on the Celica GT Brake Bracket. This would indicate they fit the stock 275mm GT Brake Rotor. The Avalon/Camry/ES300 rotor is 275mm and 28mm thick with a 49mm offset height. They are of a different lug pattern, 5x114 vs the Celica's 5x100.
Just look for yourself...here are the Avalon/Camry/ES300 rotor:

Vs the Celica GT rotor:
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the es300 does not work, the offset of the caliper is wrong.
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 21, 2012 - 2:17 PM)

>the es300 does not work, the offset of the caliper is wrong.
Which ES300?
What offset? bracket offset? rotor offset? hub offset?
I'm only referring to the 94-96 ES300.
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this is it...
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Those calipers are from a 4th Generation MCV30 Lexus ES300 02-03 & ES330 04-06.
They are not the same calipers I'm referring to.
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well it might just work then.... GL
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QUOTE (SXA10 @ Aug 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM)

>I'm pretty we can use 1st gen (94-97) Avalon Twin pot calipers.

These do in fact work, work well I might add. And the clear the stock GT alloys.
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