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>>>>FIRST OF ALL DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. DO NOT HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT HIGHWAY">>>>

After that nice disclaimer....


Ok im tired of looking at 500 dollar calipers. Yes it would be nice, but what about the people that dont have money.

anything other that our poor piss single piston caliper would be nice..

but there are double piston calipers from some ss3 celicas, yeah!! even more rare that hens teeth.

(well maybe not)


regardless of that issue, i will not spend 1899 on a big brake kit on a car that is not going to the track, i rather eat that money in bigmacs.

So imagine a bigger car, bigger engine. Those brakes stop that car, it must stop the celica. Hmmm larger car. So it must be an upgrade. Yes by 25% or 50% its still upgrading even if it gets 10%.

so i ordered from fleabay, after weeks of pictures and pictures.

got it today and see both brake pads together



now that i got your attention, lets see more pics





almost same size, a little larger and wait it gets better..



yes that's a celica bracket from a 97 gt, but there is a problem, the cliper mounts are 3/4 of an inch inside the caliper... aprrox..




so i compared the brackets... side by side



they are almost identical except the point where the caliper bolts...

no its not easy to bolt the bracket into the celica because of the mounting points..



however its funny how the caliper mount points are identical,



so most calipers points could be identical... meaning its junkyard time...

there are two options, get another celica bracket and cut those extended studs and figure if it works..



or find a bracket from another toyota that bolts to our hub and has the same caliper mounts but in a different position.

OR! something you can come up with to help this......

And please no "Just get st205 calipers" replies, This caliper was 25 bucks on ebay. Big difference.

I will let you all know where this one comes from but for now, i just want you guys to get itchy. I bet culpable knows!!! LOL

no, this is not world domination, i need your help, this might turn out great, or it may not work.....


Once we figure out the bracket, it may just work with the celica rotors...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jun 23, 2011 - 10:10 AM

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when you go to the junkyard, look for 1996+ 4 runner calipers
they are pretty affordable remanufactured, so from a junkyard they should be pretty cheap
LOOK !

on a 4runner they accomodate 319 mm disc

these are 4 piston and mounting points to knuckle should be the same as our celicas.
Out of curiosity... what is your interest in bigger brakes... what are the current symptoms that you curing with a 2 pot caliper?


Those look like Calipers from a ST165, no? Probably not as they allegedly bolt up without issue.

-Mikemjcoury@gmail.comTeam Reynolds StyleCelica BlogCelica WikiIt will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
My $0.02

Stainless Steel Brake Lines - $60
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High Temp Brake Fluid - $30
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Re manufactured ST185 Calipers - $45 ea
Pads of your choice - $70 ~ $100

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Flat Washers from Home Depot - QTY 8: (to offset the caliper)

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Centric Rotors - $30 ea

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$30 for a local machine shop to increase the inner diameter of the rotor to fit the Celica hub

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Sticky Tires - optional... but HIGHLY encouraged

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Priceless!

This post has been edited by qatar11: Oct 22, 2010 - 6:17 AM

-Mikemjcoury@gmail.comTeam Reynolds StyleCelica BlogCelica WikiIt will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
cool so the st185 caliper bolts, I want double pot, its preference.

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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 22, 2010 - 6:33 AM) *
>cool so the st185 caliper bolts, I want double pot, its preference.


I'm curious to know why?

This post has been edited by qatar11: Oct 22, 2010 - 6:38 AM

-Mikemjcoury@gmail.comTeam Reynolds StyleCelica BlogCelica WikiIt will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
http://www.brakeandfrontend.com/Article/38...TwinPiston.aspx

good article. however its just preference really!!

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Well my attempts to use the lexus caliper were a failure. The caliper bracket cannot be machined safely, and after junkyard dives, did not find a suitable caliper. Just when i was ready to give up, Johnny gave me an idea, that i put to practice.

Well these are quite rare calipers in its oem form, because thy are sought by people like Random Stranger. Yes ...

Found them on ebay, but cardone manufactures them here..

So after 126 usd, yes, that was 106 of shipping from Hong Kong... i came up with thiss!!!!







One of the thing that amazes me is the fact that most Toyota calipers have the same distance between bolts, with a little difference in offset. The calipers brackets change from model to model.

now i have not tweaked to see the contact nor have i tested them on the street.

Now here is the good part. I did not remove my brackets or my pads. Simply installed the caliper and i looks like it belongs there. Have to make more measures

So ST owners that can upgrade to GT brakes, can use the gt calipers and this caliper...

Well im not done yet, i will buy new rotors and pads.. Its a Hybrid combo, bolt on, may have to tweak some spots but picture dont lie....

Guess what car they are from, well you are right.

This are MR2 Turbo with a turbocharged 2.0L 94 +

They are sought by most mr2 as a popular upgrade....

Well Enjoy. Ill post pics when i paint them and clean them...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jun 23, 2011 - 10:12 AM

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Lookin' good Norberto. I'm really interested in seeing how these turn out for you; it would be nice to upgrade to better brakes rather then just replace my stock ones come next Summer.

Has no more Celicas
>>>>People don't wast your money. Buy the more readily available and an actual upgrade of front twin piston calipers found on page 6 of this thread!>>>>

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 12, 2014 - 7:57 PM

Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle partshttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514
woot glad my idea was helpfull it came to while browsing mr2oc
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QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Dec 14, 2010 - 7:50 PM) *
>woot glad my idea was helpfull it came to while browsing mr2oc



yeah man, thanks.. Now he shipped it fast. 3 days by dhl.. thats like fast!!!

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damn express shipping ftw
Wait, what kind of brakes are these?

1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
94-95' MR2 Turbo brake calipers and I don't know what rotors he's using.

Has no more Celicas
those are gt brackets gt rotors gt pads. the onlything in there not celica is the mr2 caliper...

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but let me make measurements...

oh i was browsing the bay...


anyone want to try. they are from lexus is, looks similar, gotta try to know.. I wont, but i tought i let u guys know.

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jun 23, 2011 - 10:13 AM

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>>>>I repeat go to Page 6-8 for an actual brake caliper twin piston upgrade!
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ahh forgot to add this as well. Rebuilt ST202 Brake calipers twin piston!!

http://www.brakepartssuperstore.org.uk/con...-uk/d11440.html

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jul 17, 2015 - 1:38 PM

Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle partshttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514
u know what i found those from a company in china, but i was afraid. The only problem is making sure the calipers fit the brackets, as some of those came in ssIII with super strut i i know for sure the bracket wont fit.

u want to give it a try? biggrin.gif

Im out of the usa right now, but when i come back ill finish this project..

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Now would the rear calipers off an MR2 work on the Celica?
It'd be pretty sick if it did because the Turbo ones are 2 pot as well
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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Dec 21, 2010 - 10:03 AM) *
>Now would the rear calipers off an MR2 work on the Celica?
It'd be pretty sick if it did because the Turbo ones are 2 pot as well


are u serious. hmm wont hurt to try...

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actually just found some on RPMgarage.com and I don't think they will fit, it's a way different setup

http://rpmgarage.com/new/detail/?tid=17063

EDITTTT: completely lied, they are single pot. I was looking at the gap in the front... :facepalm:

This post has been edited by mkernz22: Dec 21, 2010 - 11:48 AM
yeah uhm rear are single and front dual on turbo models
yeahh, i realized that after the fact haha
i was at my co-op job doing work and multitasking by trying to look up some of that stuff while working and I looked at it wrong :facepalm:
ok guys, im done with this and as always

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>FIRST OF ALL DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. DO NOT HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT HIGHWAY"
Ha ha

here are the final pics...

MR2 pad vs the celica pad, very close in shape... means caliper are equally centered.



both caliper brackets side by side... the only problem with mr2 bracket is the points that attach to the spindle, the rest is equal except for coupe of mms.





views of the caliper mounted to the brackets and comparison. Red one is the GT celica the dirty one is the MR2 turbo













the contacts with the gt celica pad and the pistons are good, centered, good thing is not needing a special disc. Im giving it a go for my car, and to top that off

some sandblasting



and TLC




once i have the paint all dried up, ill post the final pics..

All you naysayers, upgrade can mean anything, looks, bling, performance, or PREFERENCE...

TOTAL COST: 126 for brakes, 1 can of brake fluid, i can of caliper paint, couple ounces of 80 grit dust. To me this is PRICELESS...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jun 23, 2011 - 10:15 AM

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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Jan 2, 2011 - 9:30 PM) *
>These are the ones that you got right?
http://rpmgarage.com/new/detail/?tid=16617


i think yes,but from another guy, i offered him 20 bucks, cuz they had bee there a while...

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I'm gunna offer less on them, like $20 and see where it goes from there cause it's a decent upgrade from the single pot, but it doesn't cost as much as the gt-4 ones
Impressed with the braking. so ILIKEIT..

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