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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 1, 2009 - 12:43 PM)
>the tach and fuel is supposed to be a straight swap. the wiring is easy, i just made it look complicate lol. but is really not.
you need to get a engine crane and voila.
well I just did the straight swap and I hope it works. Yeah the harness looks insane lol...
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Nov 1, 2009 - 1:24 AM)
>It was really easy, I thought it was going to be harder but its not. I still have some minor details to clean up so that it looks better (i need a rubber washer for the clutch master cyl.) and then I'll post pictures... I have no experience at all with major mechanical work! I totally did not know what I was doing but its pretty self explanatory once you get down to it! I don't have a lot of tools either just a 69 piece tool set from home depot, a drill (only for the holes in the firewall) and a jack and jackstands and that was it. So yeah anyone can do it. I'll post pics when i get a chance.
That's great to hear. I was just wondering if I could attempt this in the future...but honestly, I don't even change my own oil (bad, I know
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 1, 2009 - 3:52 PM)
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Nov 1, 2009 - 1:24 AM)
>It was really easy, I thought it was going to be harder but its not. I still have some minor details to clean up so that it looks better (i need a rubber washer for the clutch master cyl.) and then I'll post pictures... I have no experience at all with major mechanical work! I totally did not know what I was doing but its pretty self explanatory once you get down to it! I don't have a lot of tools either just a 69 piece tool set from home depot, a drill (only for the holes in the firewall) and a jack and jackstands and that was it. So yeah anyone can do it. I'll post pics when i get a chance.
That's great to hear. I was just wondering if I could attempt this in the future...but honestly, I don't even change my own oil (bad, I know
).
Yeah You could do it. I hardly ever change my own oil either cuz its just so cheap to have a shop do it...
The shops here all charge $29.99 to change your oil, where I can do it myself for about $16. I can change my oil two times for what the shops charge for it.
So the auto to manual wasn't too hard, eh? That's good to know. You'll have to let us know how you like having a manual!
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Nov 1, 2009 - 4:43 PM)
>Yeah You could do it. I hardly ever change my own oil either cuz its just so cheap to have a shop do it...
Well, I originally wanted to but my brother said his friends that do it themselves say it's not worth it after needing to dispose of the oil, etc. I'm sure it's not hard to find a place to dispose it though, I could probably take it to any auto shop that does oil changes themselves.
One question about the manual swap, how exactly do you mount the clutch pedal? I assume there's some kind of space where it would usually mount, but that is left blank in automatic models. Also, how hard was it to install the shifter assembly? I assume again that there are mounting places where things screw in already existing in the car.
This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 1, 2009 - 10:09 PM
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there should be indentation or markings for the clutch pedal assembly. shifter assembly is just 4 bolts and then you tie in the shifter cables to them.
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 1, 2009 - 10:08 PM)
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Nov 1, 2009 - 4:43 PM)
>Yeah You could do it. I hardly ever change my own oil either cuz its just so cheap to have a shop do it...
Well, I originally wanted to but my brother said his friends that do it themselves say it's not worth it after needing to dispose of the oil, etc. I'm sure it's not hard to find a place to dispose it though, I could probably take it to any auto shop that does oil changes themselves.
One question about the manual swap, how exactly do you mount the clutch pedal? I assume there's some kind of space where it would usually mount, but that is left blank in automatic models. Also, how hard was it to install the shifter assembly? I assume again that there are mounting places where things screw in already existing in the car.
well the shifter assembly is a straight pull out the auto and put in the manual. To swap the cables you have to get underneath the car, unbolt the heatshield (easy, 4 screws) above the cat and remove the old automatic shifter cable. Then put the manual shifter cables in and thats it. The only other thing that I haven't found out yet is exactly where the manual shifter cables are supposed to be routed through. I mean I don't know if they go over the rack n pinion or what. Its hard to explain without pics but yeah. The clutch pedal is really easy as well. The holes are already marked you just have to drill them. Use a 5/8" drill bit and drill three holes where they are marked. The bigger hole you have to find a drill bit big enough or use a small drill bit then use a saws-all and thats it everything should fit perfectly. If you look at my previous pictures you can see a picture of the firewall with the holes marked.
I gots to go cuz my wife is yelling at me to go eat lol.
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Nov 2, 2009 - 8:54 PM)
>well the shifter assembly is a straight pull out the auto and put in the manual. To swap the cables you have to get underneath the car, unbolt the heatshield (easy, 4 screws) above the cat and remove the old automatic shifter cable. Then put the manual shifter cables in and thats it. The only other thing that I haven't found out yet is exactly where the manual shifter cables are supposed to be routed through. I mean I don't know if they go over the rack n pinion or what. Its hard to explain without pics but yeah. The clutch pedal is really easy as well. The holes are already marked you just have to drill them. Use a 5/8" drill bit and drill three holes where they are marked. The bigger hole you have to find a drill bit big enough or use a small drill bit then use a saws-all and thats it everything should fit perfectly. If you look at my previous pictures you can see a picture of the firewall with the holes marked.
I gots to go cuz my wife is yelling at me to go eat lol.
Thanks for that explanation. How did you jack the car up?
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 2, 2009 - 10:01 PM)
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Nov 2, 2009 - 8:54 PM)
>well the shifter assembly is a straight pull out the auto and put in the manual. To swap the cables you have to get underneath the car, unbolt the heatshield (easy, 4 screws) above the cat and remove the old automatic shifter cable. Then put the manual shifter cables in and thats it. The only other thing that I haven't found out yet is exactly where the manual shifter cables are supposed to be routed through. I mean I don't know if they go over the rack n pinion or what. Its hard to explain without pics but yeah. The clutch pedal is really easy as well. The holes are already marked you just have to drill them. Use a 5/8" drill bit and drill three holes where they are marked. The bigger hole you have to find a drill bit big enough or use a small drill bit then use a saws-all and thats it everything should fit perfectly. If you look at my previous pictures you can see a picture of the firewall with the holes marked.
I gots to go cuz my wife is yelling at me to go eat lol.
Thanks for that explanation. How did you jack the car up?
bought a 3 ton jack and jack stands at home depot for less than $100
Okay, that's a doable addition to the rest of the costs. So I guess it is entirely doable at home then, huh? Enticing.
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i wanna check it out
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WHo knows if when doing the swap u use the fuse box (next to the battery) from the BEAMS or use the one thats already in the car?
I used the stock fuse box because I did not get one with my engine. Just take a look and see if the fuses are all the same. Im guessing thats SRS will probably be the only one thats might be different. However I have a 94gt and yours is a 99. It could be a little different. But I would start by identifing each fuse. Wire colors will likely all be the same.
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QUOTE (turnip @ Nov 10, 2009 - 11:21 PM)
>I used the stock fuse box because I did not get one with my engine. Just take a look and see if the fuses are all the same. Im guessing thats SRS will probably be the only one thats might be different. However I have a 94gt and yours is a 99. It could be a little different. But I would start by identifing each fuse. Wire colors will likely all be the same.
Some mods have to be done to the harness though right? I was looking on other posts But I still Don't understand exactly what I have to change...
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Oct 15, 2009 - 9:31 PM)
>1998 TOYOTA CELICA (ST202-BLMZF)
Random Parts that I saw might need replacing and other parts I just punched in (From toyodiy.com)
V Belt:
Part # 9936591120
trademotion.com price: $29.46
V Belt2:
Part# 993639076083
trademotion.com price: $4.99
Oil Filter (also for 00-05 Celica GT and 91-94 Camry 4cyl among others):
Part# 9091510001 Superseded by# 90915YZZF2
trademotion.com price: $4.00
Oil Plug:
Part# 9034112012
trademotion.com price: $3.20
Oil Plug Gasket:
Part# 9043012031
trademotion.com price: $0.82
Crankshaft Pulley:
Part# 1340788380
trademotion.com price: $190.13
Timing Belt:
Part# 1356880015
trademotion.com price: $28.31
Camshaft Timing Pulley:
Part# 1352388301
trademotion.com price: $105.32
No1 Chain Tensioner Assembly:
Part# 1354088561
trademotion.com price: $23.12
Cooling System Radiator Hose:
Part# 1657274230
trademotion.com price: $12.37
Clamp/Clip Radiator Outlet:
Part# 9046734004
trademotion.com price: $3.38
Thermostat:
Part# 9091603100
trademotion.com price: $14.05
Spark Plug:
Part# 909190117883
trademotion.com Price: $6.30
Cord Set Coil & Plug:
Part# 9091921577
trademotion.com price: $89.95
Ignition Coil:
Part# 9091902209
trademotion.com price: $70.00
Water Temperature Sender:
Part# 8342016040
trademotion.com price: $18.57
Water Temp Sensor:
Part# 8942216010
trademotion.com price: $46.72
Water Pump from USDM MR2 Turbo (Supposedly Fits):
Part# 1610079126
trademotion.com price: $112.78
Ok I'm tired...I couldn't find O2 Senso or Exhaust Sensor...Maybe someone could add and remove so we could just get a list of parts that should be replaced for maintenance during a swap.
im ordering based on this part numbers, so ill blame you LOL.
i might get a trd shifter too... hope they have it it is listed at 110 bucks....
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 13, 2009 - 5:46 PM)
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QUOTE (erahman85 @ Oct 15, 2009 - 9:31 PM)
>1998 TOYOTA CELICA (ST202-BLMZF)
Random Parts that I saw might need replacing and other parts I just punched in (From toyodiy.com)
V Belt:
Part # 9936591120
trademotion.com price: $29.46
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Ok I'm tired...I couldn't find O2 Senso or Exhaust Sensor...Maybe someone could add and remove so we could just get a list of parts that should be replaced for maintenance during a swap.
im ordering based on this part numbers, so ill blame you LOL.
i might get a trd shifter too... hope they have it it is listed at 110 bucks....
I looked for that TRD shifter and my dealership doesn't have it in stock they said its discontinued and they sold out. do you have a part number for it cuz I lost the part number?????
This post has been edited by erahman85: Nov 15, 2009 - 12:24 AM
which TRD shifter? TRD ST20X one?
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here's the part number of the version 2
PTR04-20940-04
i know a guy from ebay who can sell one. he quoted me $116 + $7 shipping. he's local but wouldnt allow pick up.
his ebay username/store is garrickwholesale760, contact him and see if he could get hold of it.
hope this helps
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iwas going to place an order for the shifter but i just learned its discontinued.
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ill try to get a hold of him, ill check if he has some left over
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are you having harness trouble?
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 16, 2009 - 5:16 PM)
>are you having harness trouble?
Yeah basically the 5s is ready to come out I just don't have a hoist so I want to work on the harness for now but I don't know where to start. I was trying to understand the post on your thread but I don't really get it. Someone offered to help over the phone but I didn't get around to it on saturday I think pics are a little more helpfull to me cuz I'm a visual learner but any help is greAtly appreciated
Here are the USDM plugs inside of my car where the harness for the BEAMS plugs into after the ECU. On the gray plug (1st gray plug in the pictures and 1st gray plug from bottom to top when you look inside the car) everything matches except one wire The white plug is missing wires. and the second gray one at the top is just a mess. I'll post pics now and edit it to clean it up later when I get a chance so you know which one is which. but just in case you already know the difference I'll post the pics now...
ON THIS ONE EVERY WIRE MATCHES WITH THE JDM PLUG EXCEPT THAT THE JDM DOESNT HAVE THE BLACK AND BLUE WIRES THAT YOU SEE SEPARATED ON THE UPPER LEFT OF THE PICTURE
ON THIS ONE (WHITE), THE WIRES ON THE WHITE PLUG THAT ARE SORT OF SEPARATED TO THE LEFT MATCH WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT ITS MISSING A BLUE WIRE. THE BUNCH OF WIRES SEPARATED TO THE RIGHT ON THE WHITE PLUG ARE EXTRA COMPARED TO THE JDM WHITE PLUG
THIS ONE IS INSANE MOST OF THE WIRES DON'T MATCH
This post has been edited by erahman85: Nov 16, 2009 - 11:22 PM
the wires may not match, beams may have different colors
this is what i have and others have done
extend the maf wires, the speed sensor wires and the vacuum sensor wires. (at least what i did)
on EA1
bridge together pins 4 and 17
bridge together pins 2 and 12
move white plug (pin #18) to dark grey plug into (pin # 17)
For Cruise dark grey interior harness (pin #10) tap into blue/white stripe wire from the ECU (AFaIK this is not working, as beams did not have cruise, Batman722 is working on this and i will probably not use it)
For SRS run a wire from EA1 through the engine harness (or body) to the light grey interior plug (pin #5)
this is all the wiring to be done...
all the wiring im doing is rerouting and extending the harness.
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 15, 2009 - 8:04 PM)
>iwas going to place an order for the shifter but i just learned its discontinued.
pm me your email if you're still interested and ill forward his reply. he said he has it for 119.99
he said something weird but idk if its true.
This post has been edited by nics: Nov 18, 2009 - 1:20 PM
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Here are pics of the differences in the fuse box...
The Top one is from the BEAMS harness the bottom is from the GT USDM. The fuse differences are obvious but on the gray plug (bottom left i believe this is the EA1 everyone talks about) there is an extra wire on the BEAMS one that the USDM doesn't have. anyone know what thats for? Everything else matches
Same here but a closer look.
USDM:
JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????
USDM
JDM
This post has been edited by erahman85: Nov 20, 2009 - 6:10 PM
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>JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????
thats for ST203 with
4 Wheel
Steering
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Nov 20, 2009 - 9:35 PM)
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>JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????
thats for ST203 with
4 Wheel
Steering
the rare GT-R
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Nov 21, 2009 - 4:02 PM)
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Nov 20, 2009 - 9:35 PM)
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>JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????
thats for ST203 with
4 Wheel
Steering
the rare GT-R
nope the ST183 models got called that but the ST203 didn't. They had a '4WS' sticker on the back window, where the "Superstrut Suspension" usually is.
This post has been edited by Rusty: Nov 20, 2009 - 10:18 PM
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Ok i believe that engine might be from a curren possible, some were equipped with 4ws, but you dont have that, i believe that extra wire is the wire that goes to the injectors maybe, that one that you have to bridge, or an extra ground, but im leaning towards the first one. what color is the wire. black with red?
the pplace in the beams that says trac yours is srs, thats the blue wire missing for the airbags.
thanks for the pics posted in my post.
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