about those supra valves? are they the stock 2jz sized valves?

I don't think I can run 2jz valves on the 1st gen 3sgte. The valvetrain is completely different from all the 3sgte motors. I believe you can run them on the 5s head. I'm not sure.

so the 1st gen 3sgte head may be the most easy head upgrade for the 5s?

Can't wait to see how this pans out... makes alot of sense to head this route IMO, more work but it seems like if everything is properly sourced a monster can be built relatively cheaply

hahaha you just said CHEAP. Nothing about this build is cheap, unless you're talking about all the labor I'm doing.

About the 1st gen head being easier, I honestly think that all 3s heads have the same degree of difficulty. It all depends on the block, if its got coolant channels that match right up or not.

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I said *relatively* cheap for what it will be

Whats the end cost estimate?

Crank= 338
Pistons= 500
Rods= 50
Head with all sensors and wiring harness= 400
Head rebuild qoute= 250
ATS cam shafts= 400
ATS cam gears= 150?
Block machining qoute= 400
King engine bearings= 100
ARP head studs= 150
ARP main studs= 110
ARP rod bolts= 50

estimated cost of the build= Around 2890 maybe higher because of the machining.

Now include the KO racing gt30 turbo kit I've decided to go with intercooler kit and dyno time.

This build is going to rip me a new one.

Pics from the work done today.

3sgte block


Look at the coolant passages. Theres a lot more on the 3sgte.

I had my dad help with the drilling.





3 drill bits later and we get this




The block is drilled. 14 holes were drilled. You need to drill a little over 1/2" deep into the block. I have yet to deburr the block to make the passages bigger. I will more than likely buy the burr kit tomorrow to do some more work.

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: May 11, 2009 - 9:54 PM

Got a little more work done. I got one cylinder done so far with the burring. Lots of work and I think I inhaled a little too much cast iron.

So after hours of dremeling and thanks to my dad for drilling to holes for me to start off with this is the final product.

MCS has finally shipped the crank and I will have the block to the machinist by the end of this week.

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Well hopefully it'll put down the numbers to make it worth it . Should be a monster!

My crank came in a couple of days ago. And here she is.



In this pic you can see the turned down rod journals.



Haven't had time but in a couple of days I will be taking the block to the machine shop. I will update soon.

nice!!! i gotta come check this out!!!! !!!! after your done with the games u got this weekend!!!

looking real good! Cant wait for more updates!!!

Give us an update, Will! Is this thing going to be on the road this summer or what??

glad to see this project being done i got alot of left over parts frm when i did it.....

Wow, where have I been. I gotta see this in person sometime.

Update:

picked up a 1st gen 3sge intake manifold at the picknpull for $14. This manifold will work perfect with the fmic set-up. No pipe running over the valve cover woot!!! I was really lucky, I got there with 30 minutes left and found the st162 with 15 minutes left. Took me and my buddy all of 15 minutes to get the manifold off. But I'm going back to get the cam shafts, since it is an upgrade for the 1st gen 3sgte head.

Money is pretty slow right now, so I'm waiting until next week to FINALLY bring the block to the machine shop. Once I get the block back I will assemble it and post some more pics. I didn't want to post the pic of the intake manifold because its filled with nastyness.

Nice!!
Did you end up going to The shop i told you about? Was it cheaper?

yeah wayyy cheaper. He even remembered your name.

good stuff.

WIll the work looks good, keep it up

good job i got lots of parts pm me if u need somthing

Specs of the rev 1 3sge cams

IN Open/Close 5/55
EX Open/Close 55/5
Valve Lift 7.2/7.2
Degrees 240/240


Specs of the rev 1 3sgte cams

IN Open/Close 4/48
EX Open/Close 48/4
Valve Lift 7.15/7.15
Degrees 232/232

pics of the cams I just pulled out of a st162 at the breaker yard


$40 for the pair woot!!!

The intake manifold will be cleaned also, but here are pics



And pics of me gutting the TVIS...

Looking really good bro.

FINALLY got my block sent to the machinist, because the arp rod bolts came in.So now they can clean up the block and press in my rod bolts.

So in the mean time this is what I had to do to the 3sge intake manifold to fit the 3sgte throttle body.



What it should look like



What it looks like half way done



BTW this is for the iacv

And some injury pics. I low sided my bike the other day going about 20 around a corner with "cold" tires.



upper body was fine, thank god for jackets and gloves. The bike is fine just some scratches.

After all that abuse on your bike over the years......gotta get new fairings!

Got my bearings in.

got them from raceeng.com. And can I tell you price is good and shipping was very fast. I will be plastigauging everything when I get my block back from the machinist.

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Sep 22, 2009 - 6:10 PM

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Plasti-gauge? really? Not knocking your methods, but a dial indicator is sooo much more precise! Thats what I used on both my engines, your really able to be exact on your clearances. Harbor Freight has some VERY reasonably priced too!

Thanks, I'll look into that.

Well, it has just been a waiting game. I plastigauged the motor with the new bearings I bought and found that I needed oversized bearings for my main bearings. So after another week I was able to button the motor up.

After putting the motor in the car, I realized I needed an oil filter relocation kit. The oil filter won't clear the 3" dp. So I went out and found someone locally selling a kit for his sons 5sfte setup.

Heres a pic of the motor assembled minus the oil filter relocation kit.



Since then I have put the motor in the car and have her running. I am idling a bit high, thinking it maybe the isc resistor in the ecu.

It could be a vacuum leak though, since the gasket kit came with 2 throttle body gaskets for some reason.
Or it could be the notching I did on my intake manifold to throttle body for the ISC. I didn't make it big enough. If that were the case, I can live with a 1000 rpm idle.

I'll take more pics of the motor in the bay.

Oh so far I have 2 miles on her. and btw the valve cover is super scuffed up now after having to pull the motor 2 more times after original install due to some issues with the transmission.

And cams not lined up properly, stupid 3sge cams. They don't have a notch to line up with the cam cap near the cam gear.