Its going in the same celica, but the engine is going to be completley rebuilt to race spec 
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Hi Alan. You never finish to amaze me!! Dips on all parts coming off the St205 engine!! You have my numbers
Ok so I ordered the pistons and rods, I went for the 86.5mm pistons, because I dont want to take of too much of the cylinder block walls as the st205s wall are thinner than the old generation.
Ohh and I also ordered my suspesions.
pics below
... also the motor is disassemmble and I am currently woking on the head, the cleaning proccess is underway, I will be also be porting and polishing the head myself
This post has been edited by Alan: Apr 21, 2007 - 12:35 AM
Ohh and I also ordered my suspesions.
pics below... also the motor is disassemmble and I am currently woking on the head, the cleaning proccess is underway, I will be also be porting and polishing the head myself
This post has been edited by Alan: Apr 21, 2007 - 12:35 AM
Alan,
Does RMR already make 3rd gen intake manifold for Celica setup?
The A/W IC set up is nice but almost every alltrac owner I know that is pushing that much power goes with FMIC.
You might have heard of Pat C. in south FL.
He ditched his TTE w/a setup when he was ~400ish awhp.
IIRC, he was running in high 11s-low 12s with that setup
He is now pushing ~600+ awhp with his stroked 2nd gen with a huge a/a FMIC.
There is a glimpse of his black ST185 in SCC mag. this month.
Hopefully, he will be in the USCC this year.
This post has been edited by Gary: Apr 21, 2007 - 2:00 AM
Does RMR already make 3rd gen intake manifold for Celica setup?
The A/W IC set up is nice but almost every alltrac owner I know that is pushing that much power goes with FMIC.
You might have heard of Pat C. in south FL.
He ditched his TTE w/a setup when he was ~400ish awhp.
IIRC, he was running in high 11s-low 12s with that setup
He is now pushing ~600+ awhp with his stroked 2nd gen with a huge a/a FMIC.
There is a glimpse of his black ST185 in SCC mag. this month.
Hopefully, he will be in the USCC this year.
This post has been edited by Gary: Apr 21, 2007 - 2:00 AM
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Thanks manfor that useful info, ironically today I was talking to a friend of mine and the A/W setup is efficient but for a very short time, as the water heats up very quickly, I decided to go with another FMIC with aluminum piping for better cooling and wieght.
RMR does not make intakes for 3gen, but I will be fabricating one my self when I have all the parts I need,
. My taget BHP is 650BHP still not sure how these engines can handle high revs, I hope with these rods and ACL bearings I can push the 9000 range :s
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Alan,
Does RMR already make 3rd gen intake manifold for Celica setup?
The A/W IC set up is nice but almost every alltrac owner I know that is pushing that much power goes with FMIC.
You might have heard of Pat C. in south FL.
He ditched his TTE w/a setup when he was ~400ish awhp.
IIRC, he was running in high 11s-low 12s with that setup
He is now pushing ~600+ awhp with his stroked 2nd gen with a huge a/a FMIC.
There is a glimpse of his black ST185 in SCC mag. this month.
Hopefully, he will be in the USCC this year.
Alan,
Does RMR already make 3rd gen intake manifold for Celica setup?
The A/W IC set up is nice but almost every alltrac owner I know that is pushing that much power goes with FMIC.
You might have heard of Pat C. in south FL.
He ditched his TTE w/a setup when he was ~400ish awhp.
IIRC, he was running in high 11s-low 12s with that setup
He is now pushing ~600+ awhp with his stroked 2nd gen with a huge a/a FMIC.
There is a glimpse of his black ST185 in SCC mag. this month.
Hopefully, he will be in the USCC this year.
Thanks manfor that useful info, ironically today I was talking to a friend of mine and the A/W setup is efficient but for a very short time, as the water heats up very quickly, I decided to go with another FMIC with aluminum piping for better cooling and wieght.
RMR does not make intakes for 3gen, but I will be fabricating one my self when I have all the parts I need,
. My taget BHP is 650BHP still not sure how these engines can handle high revs, I hope with these rods and ACL bearings I can push the 9000 range :s
Ok almost got enough for it now, What do you guy think of this Turbo (below) on my 6GC, I am not sure how it will work because of the size, but Nissan SR20s use it alot for there motors.
This turbo :
Along with this wastegate:
I need feedback from the Pros
This turbo :
Along with this wastegate:
I need feedback from the Pros
do you poop money?
HKS's biggest turbo and their wastegate, that's more than my entire single set-up right there. . .
the T51R is gonna be real laggy on a 2.0L i'm guessin, based off the #'s supras put down w/ it, and it's fairly easy to guess rpm of spool by their power output.
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just read u want 1/4mile. . .
that will do if you do cams n such...but beware that although you may stay street legal, driving it ON the street is going to be something else
This post has been edited by Consynx: Apr 29, 2007 - 12:50 AM
HKS's biggest turbo and their wastegate, that's more than my entire single set-up right there. . .
the T51R is gonna be real laggy on a 2.0L i'm guessin, based off the #'s supras put down w/ it, and it's fairly easy to guess rpm of spool by their power output.
*edit*
just read u want 1/4mile. . .
that will do if you do cams n such...but beware that although you may stay street legal, driving it ON the street is going to be something else
This post has been edited by Consynx: Apr 29, 2007 - 12:50 AM
Ill be using it on the road, but just to drive to the strip witch is a few minutes away from where I live, I what it to be mostly for quatermile. any more suggestions ?? i could use them
PS I dont poop money hehe I just spend everything on my 6GC while I can that is
This post has been edited by Alan: Apr 29, 2007 - 11:35 AM
PS I dont poop money hehe I just spend everything on my 6GC while I can that is
This post has been edited by Alan: Apr 29, 2007 - 11:35 AM
you want to speak to TUFY mate, I think his is about 600bhp.
the turbo i have is good for 600bhp like 500whp so I can tell ya that its fine on the street. extremely fun. you'll just be down shifting often when you want spool up and take off. i dont have 500 whp lol but its very streetable with cams and larger turbo.
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I speak to ismet a lot he is a good friend of mine, but he is running a GT35, the T51 spl is like a GT42 size wise, its a beast .
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How much boost are you running? and when does it start in the rev range?
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you want to speak to TUFY mate, I think his is about 600bhp.
you want to speak to TUFY mate, I think his is about 600bhp.
I speak to ismet a lot he is a good friend of mine, but he is running a GT35, the T51 spl is like a GT42 size wise, its a beast .
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the turbo i have is good for 600bhp like 500whp so I can tell ya that its fine on the street. extremely fun. you'll just be down shifting often when you want spool up and take off. i dont have 500 whp lol but its very streetable with cams and larger turbo.
the turbo i have is good for 600bhp like 500whp so I can tell ya that its fine on the street. extremely fun. you'll just be down shifting often when you want spool up and take off. i dont have 500 whp lol but its very streetable with cams and larger turbo.
How much boost are you running? and when does it start in the rev range?
well it's a holset hx35. its right around gt30 area. full boost of 1 bar at before 4500rpm.
its slow to spool at first, but once it makes it to 5psi it shoots up to 14.5psi alot quicker.
and with cams it just keeps making power all the way to 8200rpm (thats my rev limit anyway, it safer to go higher but meh)
its slow to spool at first, but once it makes it to 5psi it shoots up to 14.5psi alot quicker.
and with cams it just keeps making power all the way to 8200rpm (thats my rev limit anyway, it safer to go higher but meh)
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I WAS GOING FOR 9000RPM DO YOU THINK ITS A BAD IDEA, WHAT BEARINGS ARE YOU USEING, ARE THE RACE SPEC?
I THINK THE T51R WOULD BOOST AT AROUND 6000 BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE :S I NEED IT TO REV MORE !!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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well it's a holset hx35. its right around gt30 area. full boost of 1 bar at before 4500rpm.
its slow to spool at first, but once it makes it to 5psi it shoots up to 14.5psi alot quicker.
and with cams it just keeps making power all the way to 8200rpm (thats my rev limit anyway, it safer to go higher but meh)
well it's a holset hx35. its right around gt30 area. full boost of 1 bar at before 4500rpm.
its slow to spool at first, but once it makes it to 5psi it shoots up to 14.5psi alot quicker.
and with cams it just keeps making power all the way to 8200rpm (thats my rev limit anyway, it safer to go higher but meh)
I WAS GOING FOR 9000RPM DO YOU THINK ITS A BAD IDEA, WHAT BEARINGS ARE YOU USEING, ARE THE RACE SPEC?
I THINK THE T51R WOULD BOOST AT AROUND 6000 BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE :S I NEED IT TO REV MORE !!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
for 9000rpm race bearings would be a good idea. also shimless buckets to lighten up the valve train would be a very good idea. also a higher volume oil pump. having the rotating assembly balanced would be good too. thats a pretty high rpm. ive seen plenty mr2 3sgtes run 8500 with just valve springs but 9000 is getting close to crazy
I'm on a stock bottom end (for now) and head. Just cams and valve springs.
Cant wait to see your build up.
I'm on a stock bottom end (for now) and head. Just cams and valve springs.
Cant wait to see your build up.
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Yes i will be ding all that but never heared of an aftermarket Oil pump where can I get it?
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for 9000rpm race bearings would be a good idea. also shimless buckets to lighten up the valve train would be a very good idea. also a higher volume oil pump. having the rotating assembly balanced would be good too. thats a pretty high rpm. ive seen plenty mr2 3sgtes run 8500 with just valve springs but 9000 is getting close to crazy
I'm on a stock bottom end (for now) and head. Just cams and valve springs.
Cant wait to see your build up.
for 9000rpm race bearings would be a good idea. also shimless buckets to lighten up the valve train would be a very good idea. also a higher volume oil pump. having the rotating assembly balanced would be good too. thats a pretty high rpm. ive seen plenty mr2 3sgtes run 8500 with just valve springs but 9000 is getting close to crazy
I'm on a stock bottom end (for now) and head. Just cams and valve springs.
Cant wait to see your build up.
Yes i will be ding all that but never heared of an aftermarket Oil pump where can I get it?
you can get a Toga from here
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/impo...umpstoyota.html
or shim your stocker, theres a thread on the forum about it somewhere.
toga sounds like the best bet.
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/impo...umpstoyota.html
or shim your stocker, theres a thread on the forum about it somewhere.
toga sounds like the best bet.
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Naaa, I prefer to buy it new, when it comes down to my celica or somthing that important, thanks for the link man, I never thought there where any THANKS !!!
THANKS !!!
Ok Guys tomorrow my order will be confirmed what do you think of these I need some feedback, mostly on the T51R any comments?
HKS T51 SPL Turbo
HKS GT 11 wastegate
HKS 272 cams
HKS fuel rail upgrade
HKS Timing belt
HKS 1000cc Top feed
SARD int-ank fuel Pump (280l/h)
Blitz i-color boost controller
I need some feedback, mostly on the T51R any comments?HKS T51 SPL Turbo
HKS GT 11 wastegate
HKS 272 cams
HKS fuel rail upgrade
HKS Timing belt
HKS 1000cc Top feed
SARD int-ank fuel Pump (280l/h)
Blitz i-color boost controller
i wish i could comment on the t51 but i'm not familiar with it one bit.
everything else looks great for your goals.
everything else looks great for your goals.
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DO YOU THINK IT IS TOO BIG? I KNOW THE GT35R WILL GIVE ME 600bhp BUT IF I WOULD WANT TO INCREASE IN THE FUTURE, I AM LIMITED!
GEZZZZUUUUSSSSSS! a GT42 ona 2.0l 4cyl eh?? i hope you goal is well above 600 to be going with a turbo that big.
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TO Say the truth I am still thinking about which turbo I need to get but not alot of people are giving me ideas of the turbo. I think I will be going the GT35 like Tufy, as he is the peoson who is helpign me out, and dont want to buy a too big Turbo and I will have no power at low RPM.
If anyone could give me more ideas It will be much better
If anyone could give me more ideas It will be much better
Am I mistaken or your engine is really the WRC version?
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Dont know how can you tell? hehe
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Am I mistaken or your engine is really the WRC version?
Am I mistaken or your engine is really the WRC version?
Dont know how can you tell? hehe
Ok i have confirmed my order and I dicided NOT!! to go for the T51R I was scared it will not do good for my setup, so I decide to go for the GT35R, I also ordered a tail 44mm wastegate 1000cc RC injectors HKS rail Sard fuel pump, and a new exhaust manifold. ohh and also a blitz boost controller and a few other things...
Hopefully It will be shipped Next week Ill post pics when they all arrive
and a few other things... Hopefully It will be shipped Next week
Ill post pics when they all arrive
Nice readings on what your trying to do, and hey good luck with your setup alan!!!
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How are things going on the build up?
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I am currently waiting for the parts it takes ages this shipping :@ but yesterday I took out the head and stripped it to the bare head, in the weekend Ill givve it a small clean so that when the valves I ordered Arrive I could toke it for machining, ohh btw I also ordered Ferrea valves 1mm over size and titanium valves and retainers
go with a gt 3076r .82 a/r sweet spool and nice power
^^^^ hahaha dude you needa read the post. he said hes ordered his **** already
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