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Topic #45137 150 posts Started by Green_MachToy
so all you need is to get this bad boy tuned and we will get some nice vids of the car?

98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
the tuning or the AWD conversion or what I put into the whole car in total?

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just because i want to know, How much is all this going to cost you?



That is most definately the plan!

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QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669773[/snapback]
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so all you need is to get this bad boy tuned and we will get some nice vids of the car?

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QUOTE(Green_MachToy @ Apr 30, 2008 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]669774[/snapback]
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the tuning or the AWD conversion or what I put into the whole car in total?

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QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669772[/snapback]
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just because i want to know, How much is all this going to cost you?



That is most definately the plan!

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QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669773[/snapback]
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so all you need is to get this bad boy tuned and we will get some nice vids of the car?




the Whole AWD conversion
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QUOTE(Green_MachToy @ Apr 30, 2008 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]669774[/snapback]
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the tuning or the AWD conversion or what I put into the whole car in total?

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QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669772[/snapback]
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just because i want to know, How much is all this going to cost you?




the Whole AWD conversion


I got the parts for about $2k the rest was time and labor. I think we went through this earlier in this thread. My buddy will still do this for people on here...I will look back at his price...

Here is the old infomration but is still right. If anyone is interested I will hit him up to see if the price is the same....

The parts cost me approx 2k (excluding the tranny, driveshaft, rear diff - I got those with my clip). The hardest part about that was finding a place that would part out a car ship them out to me. I got them from a guy in Europe. It is a junk yard. I would suggest we go through someone on here rather than taking a chance like I did through e-bay. But I got the parts and that price included shipping. Since it was me and a friend of mine doing the work the price on labor is a rough guess. Looking at what we did and the time it took us, I would say that would have probably been about 5k (a lot of time spent figuring it out as we went) if it was done at a shop. I talked to my friend and he said he would probably do the work for anyone on here for around 3-4k. Now some of the parts can be gotten cheaper as a couple people have pointed out on here that the rear is the same on a ST165 and ST185. The arms and hubs also appear to be the same. The difference is those monster calipers and discs. Not to mention the sway bars....I should have gotten them from the guy at the Junk yard as well. By going fuel cell instead of the tank like I did, would probably save a lot of time and money or be a wash between the cost of the cell and fabrication. My guess at this point would be it can all be done if paying someone else for everything for around 5+k.
QUOTE(6strngs @ Feb 22, 2007 - 3:55 AM)


QUOTE(Green_MachToy @ Feb 21, 2007 - 6:20 PM)

Which parts? The whole project or just the rear?
QUOTE(6strngs @ Feb 21, 2007 - 7:04 AM)

I want!!! so how much has this cost you start to finish, if you don't mind me asking.




everything, the whole AWD conversion (not including 3sgte engine). Cost of parts, labor, specialty tools, custom fabrication, etc. everything needed to go from FWD to AWD.



This post has been edited by Green_MachToy: Apr 30, 2008 - 11:26 PM
sorry i must have missed it, thats a lot lower then i thought it would be.
I think he was able to get everything welded in less than a few weeks. We did much more than that. That's why it took me so long. >
QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:26 AM) [snapback]669779[/snapback]
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sorry i must have missed it, thats a lot lower then i thought it would be.

Well it appears I will not be able to attend ToyotaFest tomorrow with the car. Spent most of this evening trying to get the tune down to be able to drive to Toyota Fest. It was running and driving fine up until this evening. It appears that I broke three bolts off the drive shaft into the rear diff. This in turn caused several problems. It looks as though the rear drive shaft hung on with one bolt and lodged betweet the diff and the support locking up the rear. It caused me to skid to a hault. I couldn't get it removed and had to remove sections of the drive shaft to get it back home. I do not know how much more damage occurred, and will look further into it tomorrow. I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged. I will keep everyone posted.
aww man that really sucks. hope the damage isn't too bad.

ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts areon. which means i need to update my sig.
That stinks, good luck getting it fixed.
wow that sucks
problems are expected w/ something this big, though.
good luck!!

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
dont expect any updates soon . judging from this guys last post: "I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged" theres only one explanation for the lack of updates


he killed himself
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QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 12, 2008 - 12:32 AM) *
>dont expect any updates soon . judging from this guys last post: "I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged" theres only one explanation for the lack of updates


he killed himself


haha i would kill myself too smile.gif

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
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QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 12, 2008 - 1:32 AM) *
>dont expect any updates soon . judging from this guys last post: "I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged" theres only one explanation for the lack of updates


he killed himself



that's not nice, even as a joke


I hope he's ok and is just that he's busy still working on the car or just busy with life
theres no doubt that hes still alive. people who perform awd conversions dont die. its a fact.

anyway




update please bowdown.gif
Im doing the same thing at the moment but have st185 awd to put on my st but i can't bring up your pics do you have them anywhere else. The engine and the front shaft and struts are find but i can see the rear is going to be a headache do you have any advise.
i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly

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>i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly


I actually have the at 200 model which i found out is going to need some fab to convert it. Im up for the challange laugh.gif At the mement it is just fwd drive going to be converting to awd drive but need as much advise as possible.
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QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Sep 8, 2008 - 5:50 PM) *
>i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly


I actually have the at 200 model which i found out is going to need some fab to convert it. Im up for the challange laugh.gif At the mement it is just fwd drive going to be converting to awd drive but need as much advise as possible.


a) all celicas (st204/st206/st205/at200) share the same chassis
b) all celicas *6th gen are FWD besides the GT4
c) the rear end of an ST205/ST185 will not bolt up to any celica except for the one on which it came from originally, all others will need serious work.

so if azian is right.....your junks is too narrow. but i have all of this guys pics, I can get them up later for you.

This post has been edited by playr158: Sep 11, 2008 - 6:14 AM
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>i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly


I actually have the at 200 model which i found out is going to need some fab to convert it. Im up for the challange laugh.gif At the mement it is just fwd drive going to be converting to awd drive but need as much advise as possible.


a) all celicas (st204/st206/st205/at200) share the same chassis
b) all celicas *6th gen are FWD besides the GT4
c) the rear end of an ST205/ST185 will not bolt up to any celica except for the one on which it came from originally, all others will need serious work.

so if azian is right.....your junks is too narrow. but i have all of this guys pics, I can get them up later for you.



S**t if thats the case im going to have to find a gt4 awd for parts ill messure just to check haven't done much work as of yet have the engine ready to come out with loom and all was going to start on the under body soon enough. Man i hope i will fit ah sure ill find out this evening and messure it.
Oh yeah meant to ask if i get a gt4 awd drive do you know if ill need fab like the st185 or can she bolt on.
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QUOTE (Davis_2 @ Sep 11, 2008 - 7:20 AM) *
>Oh yeah meant to ask if i get a gt4 awd drive do you know if ill need fab like the st185 or can she bolt on.


Refer to response C of previous answer:

c) the rear end of an ST205/ST185 will not bolt up to any celica except for the one on which it came from originally, all others will need serious work.

so no bolting on, to even fit it under the car you have to cut open your rear floor pan.


This post has been edited by playr158: Sep 11, 2008 - 6:34 AM
Sorry in work reading all this missed the © last time thanks. The photo helps big time i don't suppose you have anymore. What i was planning on doing was cutting out the rear floor of the st185 and putting it onto the at200 so have all the connections for the rear drives. Just have to find somoeone that will do it right for me. Do you think this is possible.
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This post is back from the dead, I will update you all with a full reply and possibly new thread in the Project threads. Keeps your eyes peeled.

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Hey all,

I want to start off by saying thank you for following this build. It has been a long ten years and we are finally able to show you all the end results of the build. Let me remind everyone that this is NOT my build but my Father's. He taught me everything I know and introduced me to the world of 6gc. This will show you the end results of the world's first ST205 coupe.

I am going to throw up (In no particular order) the old pictures of my Dad's progress
























So that pretty much does it for all the Documented stuff for the swap. Sorry I dont have more but honestly there were so many nay sayers at the beginning of this build it has pretty much killed any desire my father has to share his success with anyone. Keep that in mind when someone starts out asking questions about an "Impossible Project" Anyways. Fast forward about 10 years and here we are today:

>>>>>>Dyno Run
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>>>>Mods list:>>>>

Engine
Forged Pistons
ARP Head Studs
Cometic Head Gasket
Port and Polish
HKS 264 Cams

Intake / Exhaust
Blitz Intake
Same Length Turbo Manifold
Garret t3/t4 GT35R
40mm external Wastegate
HKS SSQIV BOV
FMIC conversion
3" De Cat custom Exhaust

Fuel
E85 Ethanol Conversion
AN-8 Fuel Lines
455L/H Fuel Pump
Top feed aluminum rail
2000cc Injectors

EMS
MoTeC M4 Box

Suspension / Braking
Whiteline Sway bars
Beatrush Strut Bar
Roll Cage / Rear Strut reinforcement
Tein Super Street Coilovers
Slotted Rotors
EBC Yellows

Interior
Corbeau Buckets
Corbeau 5 Points


Enjoy the pictures and comment your questions.

Cheers my friends.









>>>>Thanks For looking!>>>>


DST94 and Green_MachToy

This is the original post so there was no Project thread section.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=95167
Here is the new project thread

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QUOTE (enderswift @ Mar 7, 2015 - 1:45 AM) *
>whoa! Thats amazing work!


Thanks Enderswift!

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You should have your dad come back to the forum. People are a lot more open minded now!
I mean we have V6 swaps, 1MZ, 2GR (which is crazy), and so many other things.
He did something outside the box, way back in the day, and it's honestly pretty freaking awesome.
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>You should have your dad come back to the forum. People are a lot more open minded now!
I mean we have V6 swaps, 1MZ, 2GR (which is crazy), and so many other things.
He did something outside the box, way back in the day, and it's honestly pretty freaking awesome.


I would love to but I don't think he will ever come back to posting stuff. I mean after his experiences and some of the things people have said/done to me during my swap. . . We are kind of over it. But I wanted everyone to see the end results of the build. This **** beat a new Porsche 911 Turbo on the track. It was awesome.

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