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4AGZE Swap into a 6th Gen Celica - 6G Celicas Forums

Topic #39647 64 posts Started by Dr_Tweak
Tuesday, July 25th, 4pm to 12am

Engine resealed with new timing belt, ready to go. In the background, the victim waits...

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AHHHH! It's the black Celica of DEATH!!!

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Remember kids, when swapping to a 4AGZE engine, you'll need the backing plate off the 7AFE engine. A new rear main seal is a must too!

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New SPEC clutch installed and the tranny swapped over from the Celica. Yes, I know it's ugly, but around here we make things that go fast, not things that are pretty tongue.gif

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This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Jul 26, 2006 - 8:58 AM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
It will be nice to see this swap completed. I have a feeling that, where others have failed, the doctor will prevail. Best of luck.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
mr2 gze or rolla gze?

nvm mr2 gze lol

i agree jay im really excited to see this swap happen
it's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

i'm still pissed about mike and his slapdash wiring, but oh well. smile.gif.

This post has been edited by Mynzeyes: Jul 26, 2006 - 3:56 PM

AIM==Mynzeyes
was it cost efficient? how much hp did the dyno put out?
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was it cost efficient? how much hp did the dyno put out?


i don't believe it's been dyno'd yet.

AIM==Mynzeyes
If they used the newer GZE. those are rated at what? 165?

I should just do that instead of a V6.. All I want is 200-220whp
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If they used the newer GZE. those are rated at what? 165?

I should just do that instead of a V6.. All I want is 200-220whp


4AGZE + crank pulley + fuel and air intake mods + exhaust + effecient FMIC + some A/F/etc controller = your goal. and, if all else fails, there is a larger supercharger out there that you can always upgrade to. smile.gif. or, remove the SC, and turbo it. that motor has many directions to go. twin-charging was an option, and still is, but the HKS kit that used to be made is probably nowhere out there anymore (even used). and fabbing your own, you'll have to do insane amounts of research.

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>t's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

whats the downside to leaving the 7A tranny?

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
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>t's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

whats the downside to leaving the 7A tranny?


It's just not as beefy and able to handle the extra power. plus the axles are about half the diameter. and some of the transmissions out of the AE101 are LSD. only downside is that the driver's side (of mine at least) axle had to be lengthened by about 2 inches.

AIM==Mynzeyes
lol the motor is looking kinda rusty... lol i wouldnt wana pop the hood with that in my car!

lol but the good thing is that people can look at ur engine and be like whatever, than u can show them what an old engine can do lol

Is this good enuff 4 ya? :D
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it's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

i'm still pissed about mike and his slapdash wiring, but oh well. smile.gif.


running? I must have missed that... Can you point me to a thread?

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
sure are some haters floating around 6gc lately..

btw you wont be able to see most of that with the engine in the bay.. also a painted exhaust heat shield and valve cover would do wonders for that engine.
hmm.. I was thinking more of a rebuild, some head job, 20 over, SC14 s/c (Previa SC) and everythign that you said.. lol

I like the SC more.. better for auto.. unless the turbo spools very quick
i don't even know if he posted. FAQdaWorld. he keeps everything low key?

and who's the haters? hopefully not me, i'm just stating it's already been done, bc i don't think many people know it has.

AIM==Mynzeyes
well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions
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well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions


well, it wasn't meant to be hateful or w/e. just saying, it's been done, and more "in full". people talk like it's impossible, and tweak is the only one capable. i don't mean any disrespect to anyone, so don't think that. it's all good though. it'll be nice to see another. i think there may be a 2nd somewhere, but i don't know if it ever got finished...

AIM==Mynzeyes
Is that a MR2 GZE? I didn't know the MR2 came with DLI. I think that is an AE92 GZE.

1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of moneyI'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet.**** Photobucket
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well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions


I'm just going to stop posting my stuff up. Pretty much every thread I've started recently has been hated on.

Answers to questions: My understanding has been that the only car the MAP/DLI version of the 4AGZE came in was the AE101, and this is the MAP/DLI version. I'm pretty sure that the AE92 had only the AFM version.

As for the transmission, the C52 tranny has been used in almost every Corolla swap that I can think of, and it's a very rugged transmission. I've never once heard of a 4AGZE breaking one. Considering the simplicity of swapping it over instead of making the E58 work, it's a very logical choice.

Also I've cleaned the engine up quite a bit and it looks a lot better now.

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
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well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions


I'm just going to stop posting my stuff up. Pretty much every thread I've started recently has been hated on.

-Doc


kindasad.gif i hope to see you at least keep your website up to date, i enjoy reading about your progress on the projects. you seem to work very aggressively. forget the negitive members, there all jelous of your work and knowledge.
Dang Doc, you got right to work on that thing didn't ya?

Whoever's car that is, it's beautiful. I tried not to leave fingerprints while poking around it at Doc's shop. It's just soooooo clean. biggrin.gif
i want more pics! biggrin.gif i think this swap will b awesome when it's done- i remember seein a vid of FAQdaworld's boost gauge after his swap and it was sooooo sweet - looked like a lil mini tach...jumpin w/ the revs on the motor - MORE PICSSS wink.gif
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i want more pics! biggrin.gif i think this swap will b awesome when it's done- i remember seein a vid of FAQdaworld's boost gauge after his swap and it was sooooo sweet - looked like a lil mini tach...jumpin w/ the revs on the motor - MORE PICSSS wink.gif


Really? I didn't know that he finally got his put together! smile.gif

I'll put some more pics up tomorrow.

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
Thanks Doc. Lets keep up the hard work. LOL I cant wait to get it back after seeing the pics.
FastBird congrats on the 3sgte swap and thanks for not leaving to many finger prints on my car.
Thanks for all the good comments and for the one who seems to hate it nice " Home Made Intake"LOL
For all the nonhaters keep your fingers crossed that she will start right up.

Thanks again Tweak

Richard
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i want more pics! biggrin.gif i think this swap will b awesome when it's done- i remember seein a vid of FAQdaworld's boost gauge after his swap and it was sooooo sweet - looked like a lil mini tach...jumpin w/ the revs on the motor - MORE PICSSS wink.gif


Really? I didn't know that he finally got his put together! smile.gif

I'll put some more pics up tomorrow.

-Doc


Yeah, Ryan(FAQ) is the one I was speaking of in a previous post. Again, didn't mean disrespect, just repping to everyone else it's been done. I still don't know if his is 100%, but I think that's bc of the body work he's doing.

AIM==Mynzeyes
July 26th, 9am to 12pm, 8pm to 12am

Wiring...

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July 27th, 9am to 5 pm

Installing the harness onto the engine...

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Ready to go in.

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July 28th, 9am to whenever I quit tonight

Today I spent most of the day running around getting a custom power steering hose made, custom a/c lines set up, and getting any parts I needed.

With the lift, installing the engine through the bottom is a cinch.

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Two more Celicas are in line. The 6th gen is getting a 3SGTE and the 5th gen is getting a 3SGE BEAMS.

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Installing the engine...

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This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Jul 28, 2006 - 8:39 PM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
Dang Tweak, nice work. The black Celicas are all lining up to get the go-go treatment. Every time I see one of those wiring harnesses, I think "Better him than me; that looks like a PITA."

Nice.

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i 2nd that, i still have to make sure my A/C works so i know the wireing is right. other than that its all good so far.
what type of intercooler setup will it get?

Also how much a the harness cost for.. late model GZE to a 97 ST