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Topic #32626 246 posts Started by jgreening
For people that are interested in running the MR2T tranny in their swap, you may have noticed many people claiming that their axel pops out because it is too short. Different combinations of inners and outters have been tried with sporatic results. So, for kicks, I took a look at mine to see what was done on the passenger side. Guess, what? When Jamasco did mine, they added a second "thicker section" (sorry I don't know the name of this piece). And then used longer studs to connect the two sections together. Looks OEM and I have had no problems. I will take some pics if anyone is interested.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
pics please!

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What combination of axles are you using?

I second the pics request.


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third the request...this should be very good info

bboy

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What combination of axles are you using?

I second the pics request.


I know I have MR2T inners but I never did find out what the outters were. People have had the "short axel" problem with both ST185 and Camry V6 outters though. I would imagine those are the same or VERY close.

I will try to get some pics for you guys this weekend.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Jan 13, 2006 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
So basically what your saying is that between the inner and outter 1/2 shafts Jamasco placed a sort of "spacer" or "gasket" w/extended bolts.

Would you be able to inquire about this to them? See if they could either reproduce it for sale, give out a part # or maybe even do the work if an axle was sent to them? I have passenger side axle problems as we speak (ST185/MR2T combo). I have an OEM LSD inner with a TRD LSD so I think thats the problem but it could only be part.

Thanks Jay.

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So basically what your saying is that between the inner and outter 1/2 shafts Jamasco placed a sort of "spacer" or "gasket" w/extended bolts.


The "spacer" as you call it is really just the same part of another axel. I believe it is the end of the outter but I am not sure. Its the piece that is significantly wider than the axel shaft which is midway between the tranny and the hub on the passenger side.

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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Jan 13, 2006 - 10:16 AM) [snapback]378059[/snapback]
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Would you be able to inquire about this to them? See if they could either reproduce it for sale, give out a part # or maybe even do the work if an axle was sent to them?


Perhaps you would like me to take a dump for you too? biggrin.gif

You can get their number here:

Jamasco / Scion Speed

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
Pics, I haven't had trouble from mine yet(knock on wood) but I'd like to see it.
Yeah your right I can do it myself but keep it civil.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jan 13, 2006 - 2:36 PM

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It was a joke (hence the smily face). I apologize if it offended you.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
Damn, some people get butt-hurt so easy on the Interweb, LOL. tongue.gif

Anyway, that's sweet. Pics would be great. Not like I am doing it also, but the more I know, the better. smile.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 13, 2006 - 2:49 PM) [snapback]378133[/snapback]
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It was a joke (hence the smily face). I apologize if it offended you.


S'alright, I'm just a lil ticked off with this place as of late.

OOBE stfu.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jan 13, 2006 - 3:39 PM

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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Jan 13, 2006 - 1:39 PM) [snapback]378172[/snapback]
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 13, 2006 - 2:49 PM) [snapback]378133[/snapback]
>It was a joke (hence the smily face). I apologize if it offended you.
S'alright, I'm just a lil ticked off with this place as of late.

OOBE stfu.
awww. poor baby. jk man. lol.
LOL@ tongue.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
jack up the car and take lots of pics!!! smile.gif

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great update,

i been trying to figure this out myself but like you said all the answers are either vauge or sporatic, nothing too solid.

what is your current set-up? im trying to do the st185 w/e153 tranny. just trying to figure out the axles.
I just took a couple pics. You can see the pieces I am talking about circled in red.

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Enjoy.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Jan 15, 2006 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
bump for pics

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
suprised noone has weighed in here after posting pics....I guess it hasn't been that long.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
now, where the hell did that come from! it dosnt look like a custom made part.

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Looks like they removed the CV housing from another axle and bolted it in.

ScottWest Michigan
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QUOTE(scothaniel @ Jan 16, 2006 - 11:08 AM) [snapback]379310[/snapback]
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Looks like they removed the CV housing from another axle and bolted it in.


CV housing huh? I was wondering what that was called. I am surprised that putting those two pieces together fit so snuggly - it almost looks like one piece. Anyone else have any comments on this?

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
Please figure this out guys, excellent information.

I'm going to sticky this.

I will return one day.
have you tired posting this on mr2oc ?

I will return one day.
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have you tired posting this on mr2oc ?


No, given that its not an issue with their cars, I doubt it would get that much response. However, anyone that is interested in the info has my permission to post the pictures on whatever forums they want.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
anyone got a pic of a normal mr2 axel to compare this with ?

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I have a spare set I can take some pics of.

There is one thing that troubles me about the picture. If they did indeed bolt a second CV housing between the inner shaft and outer axle, how would this effect the compressed axle length?

The inner shaft has a domed surface where the outer bolts up, which could act as a stop to keep the axle from over compressing. If the middle housing is hollow, then the axle could compress an extra an or so.

I think pics would help describe what I'm trying to say!

ScottWest Michigan
can you please find out from what car did they get those spacer.
Thank you.
i would assume it would come from another MR2 axel...since it would just bolt in, they seem to be they same thickness