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I didnt see that pic. I am going to get under my car take pics of the E153/ST185 combo that I have for a comparison.
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Yea, i would like to know this also, because im plannin on using a s54 tranny. And its said that i need the st185 inners and combine it with the GT outers. If i need to do this, i might need this solution also. Im wondering if i could just use the GT axels on that tranny instead of custom.
NO the S54 transmission is the GT tranny and all you need is GT axles, complete ones.
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Awsome, i just did a search right before you answered, but your answer is alot more clear. Pefect.
ST185 outters/E153 OEM LSD inners.
This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Feb 14, 2006 - 10:05 PM
This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Feb 14, 2006 - 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
Yours looks bigger, but idk if its just an angle playing with my eyes. Maybe I'll measure it tomorrow.
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umm that looks like the same sh1t. maybe all mr2 axels look like this?
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My Mr2 inners look indentical to supersprynts first picture.
Why not just go with the a definitive answer, and call this jasmico company and ask them their logic if any was used?
Why not just go with the a definitive answer, and call this jasmico company and ask them their logic if any was used?
I contaced them, never got a response.
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its your eyes playing tricks on you.
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umm that looks like the same sh1t. maybe all mr2 axels look like this?
umm that looks like the same sh1t. maybe all mr2 axels look like this?
its your eyes playing tricks on you.
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
ouch, erik that looks stretched!
now i see what you guys are talking about..lol
looks like using that "ring" as a spacer works pretty well...maybe a machined peice to replace it almost like a wheelspacer would work?
now i see what you guys are talking about..lol
looks like using that "ring" as a spacer works pretty well...maybe a machined peice to replace it almost like a wheelspacer would work?
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Jay is your car jacked up in that pic?
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No.
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Jay is your car jacked up in that pic?
Jay is your car jacked up in that pic?
No.
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
Its 2 All-Trac CV housings for sure (outer-race for the proper name).
I bought a trashed 185 outer shaft from a buddy, separated the outer-race and added it between the MR2 inner and current 185 outer - absolutly perfect fit!
If anyone else is going to do this, be sure to have a set of 10mm x 1.5 - 90mm socket head bolts on hand, as hex-head bolts will hit the sides of the axel.
I bought a trashed 185 outer shaft from a buddy, separated the outer-race and added it between the MR2 inner and current 185 outer - absolutly perfect fit!
If anyone else is going to do this, be sure to have a set of 10mm x 1.5 - 90mm socket head bolts on hand, as hex-head bolts will hit the sides of the axel.
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Nice, I should have my outer's lying around somewhere, just gotta get new MR2 axle and im good.
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Yeah - this works great! I took the outer portion that bolts up to the MR2 inner...second one off of a "spare" st185 or v6 axle. I went down to the hardware store spent 10 bucks (got extra bolts just in case). Made sure to line them up so the channel on the inside does not allow the ball bearings to slide all the way into the "spare" spacer. Made that mistake once! Bolted it up and was good to go! I've been running with mine for over a year! By the way anyone ever look at a Camry V6 axle and a ST185 - when I did, they looked the exact same. So unless they are made of different grades or something I didn't notice...they appear to be the same!
Thanks this was a great note!
This post has been edited by Green_MachToy: Mar 2, 2006 - 12:45 AM
Thanks this was a great note!
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Just for reference, the difference between the camry and st185 axle is the outer end with the spline. The splines are different. It won't fit into the celica hub.
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Kuya1284 (board name) used v6 camry axels without problems.
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Just for reference, the difference between the camry and st185 axle is the outer end with the spline. The splines are different. It won't fit into the celica hub.
Just for reference, the difference between the camry and st185 axle is the outer end with the spline. The splines are different. It won't fit into the celica hub.
Kuya1284 (board name) used v6 camry axels without problems.
Second entry in completed engine swaps
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
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Early model camry v6's ~'90 have the same outer spline as st204 but later model camry ~'95(more common now) have larger splines. sorry had to clear that up. Having done the conversion twice now, I've learnt that people should be more specific with quotes and advice, cos it gets costly when you order wrong parts.
On a separate matter I think that people are using two left st185 shafts in their 204's cos I havent had any problems with my shafts popping out.
I have spoken to several wreckers in my area who swear that both shafts are same but they're clearly not. There is about an inch difference between the two. Anyway not trying to sidetrack this thread but thought it may explain the problem.
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Kuya1284 (board name) used v6 camry axels without problems.
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QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Mar 25, 2006 - 10:30 PM) [snapback]413231[/snapback]
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Just for reference, the difference between the camry and st185 axle is the outer end with the spline. The splines are different. It won't fit into the celica hub.
Just for reference, the difference between the camry and st185 axle is the outer end with the spline. The splines are different. It won't fit into the celica hub.
Kuya1284 (board name) used v6 camry axels without problems.
Second entry in completed engine swaps
Early model camry v6's ~'90 have the same outer spline as st204 but later model camry ~'95(more common now) have larger splines. sorry had to clear that up. Having done the conversion twice now, I've learnt that people should be more specific with quotes and advice, cos it gets costly when you order wrong parts.
On a separate matter I think that people are using two left st185 shafts in their 204's cos I havent had any problems with my shafts popping out.
I have spoken to several wreckers in my area who swear that both shafts are same but they're clearly not. There is about an inch difference between the two. Anyway not trying to sidetrack this thread but thought it may explain the problem.
Man I learn alot from you guys
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According to Toyota they are the same. Same part number in the EPC, and the last set I ordered for my AllTrac were listed only as being for the front.
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According to Toyota they are the same. Same part number in the EPC, and the last set I ordered for my AllTrac were listed only as being for the front.
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Jay can you take a pic of your drivers side also?
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Can you go into more detail about lining the channel up and the ball bearings?
Did you get socket cap head bolts like the originals or go with just Hex head? I have been unable to find the same type of bolt but 2'' longer.
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Yeah - this works great! I took the outer portion that bolts up to the MR2 inner...second one off of a "spare" st185 or v6 axle. I went down to the hardware store spent 10 bucks (got extra bolts just in case). Made sure to line them up so the channel on the inside does not allow the ball bearings to slide all the way into the "spare" spacer. Made that mistake once! Bolted it up and was good to go! I've been running with mine for over a year! By the way anyone ever look at a Camry V6 axle and a ST185 - when I did, they looked the exact same. So unless they are made of different grades or something I didn't notice...they appear to be the same!
Thanks this was a great note!
Yeah - this works great! I took the outer portion that bolts up to the MR2 inner...second one off of a "spare" st185 or v6 axle. I went down to the hardware store spent 10 bucks (got extra bolts just in case). Made sure to line them up so the channel on the inside does not allow the ball bearings to slide all the way into the "spare" spacer. Made that mistake once! Bolted it up and was good to go! I've been running with mine for over a year! By the way anyone ever look at a Camry V6 axle and a ST185 - when I did, they looked the exact same. So unless they are made of different grades or something I didn't notice...they appear to be the same!
Thanks this was a great note!
Can you go into more detail about lining the channel up and the ball bearings?
Did you get socket cap head bolts like the originals or go with just Hex head? I have been unable to find the same type of bolt but 2'' longer.
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Here is the piece that seperates from the axle that can be used as a spacer - i havent put it altogether yet
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^ yeah i take good pics.
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I have a few extra bolts if you need them. They are exactly like the originals only longer. I am not too great and getting th epics in here, but I will give it a shot.[link]http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=showPhoto&albumID=549177188&photoID=2191449550058659770&security=gdjWAa[/link][link]http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=showPhoto&albumID=549177188&photoID=2127861520058659770&security=WWuNAN[/link][link]http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=showPhoto&albumID=549177188&photoID=2052941580058659770&security=qJLpRF[/link]
I was just trying to say, when you put the second "spacer" up against the first space that is already on the axle with the boot, make sure the channels on the inside do not line up. If you place the second spacer on the bolts and notice that the channels flow smoothly all the way through...stop and flip the second one over. THis should put a ridge in the way of the channel and everything will work fine.Axle without second spacer
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I was just trying to say, when you put the second "spacer" up against the first space that is already on the axle with the boot, make sure the channels on the inside do not line up. If you place the second spacer on the bolts and notice that the channels flow smoothly all the way through...stop and flip the second one over. THis should put a ridge in the way of the channel and everything will work fine.Axle without second spacer
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Your pics arent really working in the forum but do work.... I have been looking all over for those bolts and nobody has those so I was goign to just use hex had Grade 8s. Where did you find yours?
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erik go to www.mcmaster.com you'll probably be able to find the stuff you need there they have practically everything
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and me FTW:
3rd times a charm
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thats what u think.
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