If you want to put it that way then Kwanza, what about an SS-II vs. the K20A3 Civic Si, see I could compare apples to apples but this is america, Toyota lucked out on the good stuff, but if I did a 3SGE swap and started busting all the little Si kids around here they would be crying because i'm not stock, well in most other parts of the world that is what came in my car, I didn't upgrade from a B16 to a B18, I went from a Camry motor back to what was meant to be in this car. So now that I gave myself the right to argue due to being stuck with a motor made for another car, unlike Honda kids who get a decent choice. See I only bench raced one car and that was the Prelude since i've never ran one (97+) and the only one i've driven was an '89 Si, the guy I ran with the '04 Si knew what he was doing he ran a lot, and it felt pretty good to have someone with a car that is suppose to be Oogled over by Honda nuts in the US swear that i'm not stock, and as I told him there is a little done, there was no B/S there is a little done to my car, like a few hundred in mods. It just tires me of all these Honda guys getting on here and claiming that a friggin RSX-S can beat a GT-Four, maybe an old beater Four if the front wheels fell off but that's about it.
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Uh.. Mac I think we covered that.
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I know i'm biased, I brag because my car has a few mods on it and can run with "tuner" cars and a lot of people on here want to know what it takes to make the underdog win, this car is by far fast, my Sierra would whale on this car in a race (it actually did when my brother had it) but it would smoke most stock 4 bangers in a straight line (ex. an Evo or STi). I'm comparing my orange to the rest of the apples because I have the sporty equivalent to a D16 powered Civic beating B16 powered Civics and have a short clip showing it can hold it's own even in fifth against some cars on a higher level (I do need to get a better clip though and a cameraman). You tried to flame me over a mistake in a Honda engine and then the rest was just complaining about me bragging, if I was in a Civic nobody would care, but it's a Celica, at least i'm starting to show i'm not B/Sing.
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TRD, while you are correct, i was referring to an auto GT vs manual 6gc GT because the Auto GT 7th gen supposedly is a LOT slower than the manual(almost 1sec 1/4mile)
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