nik

#1

Psi Racing had the 7afte that ran 14.4 on 14 psi they have somw stuff for the 7afte people out there.

Hey nik

Whats up, well for starters no company actually stocks it, we would have to get them custom made, I would need a factory piston from you and then I would send it out, to my piston manufacturer and they will duplicate it, in whatever compression ration I wanted, the rods I think they should have on file, so those we shouldnt need a core, just let me know exactly what you want to do.

Thanks,
Brendan Alvarez
PSIRacing

so far also depends on final price

1. NIK
2. Doggy
3. Edo
4.trdevelopment

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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte

edo17982

#2

By the way.....give us an idea of price.... >>

playr158

#3

hmmm i might possibly be in if new rings are included as well >>
provided no huge pricing

d3monc3lica

#4

count me in, also if the price isnt outrageous

frotou

#5

Pauter have 7afe rods listed (I have the part number) and for the pistons , we have just to know what compression the 4agze give with the 7afe head .

Claude

doGGy

#6

Pauter charge hell to much, and they are not the best for the money... About pistons GZE pistons make 10.8:1 CR in stock 7A


-frotou+Jan 24, 2005 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE(frotou @ Jan 24, 2005 - 10:29 AM)

Pauter have 7afe rods listed (I have the part number) and for the pistons , we have just to know what compression the 4agze give with the 7afe head .

Claude
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frotou

#7

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Pauter charge hell to much, and they are not the best for the money... About pistons GZE pistons make 10.8:1 CR in stock 7A

What is the best for the 7a ? Crower pro billet ? Forget standart crower and eagle .

playr158

#8

wouldn't you want those(4agze) pistons in a NA 7afe more then in a 7agte? or 7afte? cause its better for high compression in NA

doGGy

#9

Have you ever heard about HOW TO LOWER your CR?


-playr158+Jan 24, 2005 - 2:31 PM

QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 24, 2005 - 2:31 PM)

wouldn't you want those(4agze) pistons in a NA 7afe more then in a 7agte? or 7afte? cause its better for high compression in NA
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doGGy

#10

It is better to go with Crower rods.. Even they make the custom ones, price will be practicly the same as pauter, but Crower rods are better IMHO... And i read lots of good info on them...

Nik, so hows with the PSI racing going? Are they gonna give some estimates?

-frotou+Jan 24, 2005 - 2:28 PM

QUOTE(frotou @ Jan 24, 2005 - 2:28 PM)

QUOTE

Pauter charge hell to much, and they are not the best for the money... About pistons GZE pistons make 10.8:1 CR in stock 7A

What is the best for the 7a ? Crower pro billet ? Forget standart crower and eagle .
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CheesyLobster

#11

Hmm, this sounds nice. few things:
1. an esimate of improved bhp without a turbo.
2. an esimate of improved bhp with a turbo.
3. Would new rings be needed as well? or are they included?
4. Aproximate cost.

Thanks

doGGy

#12

esimate of improved bhp? From What? From stock dimension Rods and Pistons? These are not for BHP, these are for strenght and reability, if you gonna go turbo, you need stronger internals, these are dedicated for this....


-CheesyLobster+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:24 AM

QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:24 AM)

Hmm, this sounds nice. few things:
1. an esimate of improved bhp without a turbo.
2. an esimate of improved bhp with a turbo.
3. Would new rings be needed as well? or are they included?
4. Aproximate cost.

Thanks
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CheesyLobster

#13

-doGGy+Jan 25, 2005 - 7:34 AM

QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 25, 2005 - 7:34 AM)

esimate of improved bhp? From What? From stock dimension Rods and Pistons? These are not for BHP, these are for strenght and reability, if you gonna go turbo, you need stronger internals, these are dedicated for this....


-CheesyLobster+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:24 AM

QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:24 AM)

Hmm, this sounds nice. few things:
1. an esimate of improved bhp without a turbo.
2. an esimate of improved bhp with a turbo.
3. Would new rings be needed as well? or are they included?
4. Aproximate cost.

Thanks
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Thats what I thought. But from a better compresion ratio? Does that not add power?

doGGy

#14

Yes, they will, you will gain somthing about 10-15 hp at most if everything done right....

If you want pistons, then get GZE pistons, you will have higher CR with them..

-CheesyLobster+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:58 AM

QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:58 AM)

-doGGy+Jan 25, 2005 - 7:34 AM

QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 25, 2005 - 7:34 AM)

esimate of improved bhp? From What? From stock dimension Rods and Pistons? These are not for BHP, these are for strenght and reability, if you gonna go turbo, you need stronger internals, these are dedicated for this....


-CheesyLobster+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:24 AM

QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:24 AM)

Hmm, this sounds nice. few things:
1. an esimate of improved bhp without a turbo.
2. an esimate of improved bhp with a turbo.
3. Would new rings be needed as well? or are they included?
4. Aproximate cost.

Thanks
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Thats what I thought. But from a better compresion ratio? Does that not add power?
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van95st

#15

if you increase your CR do you not also have to adjust your timing maybe fuel management and run higher octane gas??

doGGy

#16

Yes, you have to.

Period. We are talking about Rods and Pistons custom made, not about CR and other stuff..


-van95st+Jan 25, 2005 - 4:32 AM

QUOTE(van95st @ Jan 25, 2005 - 4:32 AM)

if you increase your CR do you not also have to adjust your timing maybe fuel management and run higher octane gas??
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d3monc3lica

#17

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doGGy Posted Today, 11:41 AM
  Yes, you have to.

Period. We are talking about Rods and Pistons custom made, not about CR and other stuff..

The Dogfather has spoken..

playr158

#18

yes doggy i do know how to lower it with the 4agze pistons >> 2mm headgasket should do the trick >>

but i'm thinking of getting these for an N/a application since i have to relace rings

doGGy

#19

If you gonna go N/A route, then this will be the best bang for the $. Get some ITb's, good cams, fuel managment and you will gain more then 20 hp for sure.. But higher octane will need to be used..

-playr158+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:48 PM)

yes doggy i do know how to lower it with the 4agze pistons >> 2mm headgasket should do the trick >>

but i'm thinking of getting these for an N/a application since i have to relace rings
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playr158

#20

yea higher octane is a must i know from racing motorcycles but ITB are a no for me cause well i just can't go that far but i'm probably goin to see if i can get some 82mm+ 4agze pistons since the stock is 81mm bore
and up the bore a little bit with probably a greddy emanage since they are normally easy to find

edo17982

#21

-doGGy+Jan 25, 2005 - 10:04 PM

QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 25, 2005 - 10:04 PM)

If you gonna go N/A route, then this will be the best bang for the $. Get some ITb's, good cams, fuel managment and you will gain more then 20 hp for sure.. But higher octane will need to be used..

-playr158+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:48 PM)

yes doggy i do know how to lower it with the 4agze pistons >> 2mm headgasket should do the trick >>

but i'm thinking of getting these for an N/a application since i have to relace rings
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Hahahahah lovely teacher!!! >> >> >> >> >>

doGGy

#22

no Edo, you Own me >>

im >> >> by Edo >>


-edo17982+Jan 25, 2005 - 1:14 PM

QUOTE(edo17982 @ Jan 25, 2005 - 1:14 PM)

-doGGy+Jan 25, 2005 - 10:04 PM

QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 25, 2005 - 10:04 PM)

If you gonna go N/A route, then this will be the best bang for the $. Get some ITb's, good cams, fuel managment and you will gain more then 20 hp for sure.. But higher octane will need to be used..

-playr158+Jan 25, 2005 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 25, 2005 - 12:48 PM)

yes doggy i do know how to lower it with the 4agze pistons >> 2mm headgasket should do the trick >>

but i'm thinking of getting these for an N/a application since i have to relace rings
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Hahahahah lovely teacher!!! >> >> >> >> >>
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nik

#23

i'm sick right now but still waiting to hear from PSI racing on the cost of the rods and pistons

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edo17982

#24

Ok' we'll be waiting for any news! and get out of sickness man!! >> >>

nik

#25

Hey Nick whats up, yeah I am sure I can offer you a better deal from the quantity order, but I will leave the responsibilty in your hands that we receive the full amount first before we place the order, we can get any compression ratio you want and any bore size, just so you know. Also, yes they would be forged billet pistons not coated, let me know what you think, and if we can receive full payment from the other related customers.

Thanks Nick,
Brendan Alvarez
PSIRacing

i got this today

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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte

nik

#26

ok i got off the phone were looking $450 piston kit rings etc any ratio rods $650 made of steel so tell me what you guys are thinking.

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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte

FallenHero

#27

-nik+Jan 26, 2005 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE(nik @ Jan 26, 2005 - 12:57 PM)

ok i got off the phone were looking $450 piston kit rings etc any ratio rods $650 made of steel so tell me what you guys are thinking.
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I would use those pistons and 2zz rods.= hella cheaper.

nik

#28

-FallenHero+Jan 26, 2005 - 1:58 PM

QUOTE(FallenHero @ Jan 26, 2005 - 1:58 PM)

-nik+Jan 26, 2005 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE(nik @ Jan 26, 2005 - 12:57 PM)

ok i got off the phone were looking $450 piston kit rings etc any ratio rods $650 made of steel so tell me what you guys are thinking.
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I would use those pistons and 2zz rods.= hella cheaper.
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2zzge rods length 5.429 (wiseco)
7afe rods length 5.217 ( Pauter)

difference .212

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Kwanza26

#29

-nik+Jan 26, 2005 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE(nik @ Jan 26, 2005 - 10:43 PM)

2zzge rods length  5.429 (wiseco)
7afe  rods length  5.217 ( Pauter)

difference .212
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I've been looking everywhere for those specs... I don't have them in my database...
As for fitment... gotta do live measurements... compared to the block. The 7A has a larger stroke than the 2ZZ also... so this might not be so good...

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playr158

#30

i'd say lets run a GB for rods and piston kit....
i want a ruff compression of 11:1 or so cause i wanna keep NA
with the proper fuel upgrades this is
and as for RODS what would be options and such?
i'm not familiar with rods and specs