edo17982

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Who in this site is using front and rear Suspenion Techniques sway bars? How do you feel them?
I'm asking that cuz I have them in my box but dunno if put them on cuz they are for sure bigger but they feel less strong then stock...
PLZ reply only if ya have direct experience with them! thx >>

Coomer

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They're very strong...You can flex the OEM ones just by putting weight on them...I couldn't do that with my Suspension Techniques sway bars.

I like them a lot. My body roll was greatly reduced. >> The only problem is that they hit the frame a little bit in one spot.

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Consynx

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how do you feel them or how do you install them?
be a lil more specific for those who have 1st person experience

mikew04

#4

they might not feel very strong, but the pressure that is put on the sway bars is in a twisting motion... its gonna be hard to decide which is stronger just by putting weight on it

RedSunCelica

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very stiff my back hurts when im driving long distance with them.

as for the install the only way i saw it was going to fit was by removing the gas tank a little. so i decided to take it to a shop and let them deal with it.with both front and rear installed the car rides stiff now with the other suspensions goodies i have on there already. if you live in a place with tiht curvy roads and long sweepers youll love them if you live in a city with crappy roads full of pop holes your going to hate it.

shadycrew31

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im gonna get mine tonight i dunno when im gonna install but im gonna uy them!!! wait wait which is better front or rear i can only do either or this week 2 weeks ill get the othewr. (drunk post)

Junior

#7

Save up for both. If you do one and not the other you'll create oversteer or understeer, unless thats what you want.

RedSunCelica

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-shadycrew31+Dec 11, 2004 - 4:17 AM

QUOTE(shadycrew31 @ Dec 11, 2004 - 4:17 AM)

im gonna get mine tonight i dunno when im gonna install but im gonna uy them!!! wait wait which is better front or rear i can only do either or this week 2 weeks ill get the othewr.  (drunk post)
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dude. everytime your on this message board your drunk hahahaha. if you can only get one get the front. thats my recommendation.

trdevelopment

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-RedSunCelica+Dec 11, 2004 - 2:21 AM

QUOTE(RedSunCelica @ Dec 11, 2004 - 2:21 AM)

very stiff my back hurts when im driving long distance with them.

as for the install the only way i saw it was going to fit was by removing the gas tank a little. so i decided to take it to a shop and let them deal with it.with both front and rear installed the car rides stiff now with the other suspensions goodies i have on there already. if you live in a place with tiht curvy roads and long sweepers youll love them if you live  in a city with crappy roads full of pop holes your going to hate it.
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hold on the sway bars make the car more stiff? man my car is already stiff as it is with ground control coilovers... does eveyone else feel the same way?

jgreening

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the sway bars did not make my ride any more "harsh" although the springs and struts do that. I concur with Coomer's post. I still haven't fixed my front sway bar where it rubs on the frame. I plan on trying some things soon. Jeremy says that it can be fixed by bending some of the undercarriage up. This should only be a problem if you have a lowered car. All in all, very worth it if you can avoid the rubbing.

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Supersprynt

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How bad is the rubbing? Can you hear it in side the car?

I just ordered mine last night ( xmas present )

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jgreening

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It hits when accellerating from a stop and rubs when cornering hard. Under normal driving you don't notice it but under spirited driving you do. I will put my stocker back on if I can't fix it. Its annoying as hell. When I was contemplating selling the car, I almost put the stocker on without seeing if the ST could be fixed as I knew it wouldn't sell the car with that noise.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Dec 13, 2004 - 3:04 PM

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Coomer

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Yes, it's a horrible metal rubbing metal noise...you can hear it inside the car and it sucks. Everyone always says "Umm...that doesn't sound good." or "What's that noise? Is your car broken?"

When I replace my front bushings I'm going to pound the little area where it hits(it's not actually the frame, just the bottom part of the car) with something to make it bend just enough so that they don't rub. >>

Speaking of replacing bushings, how should I lubricate them prior to putting them in?

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Supersprynt

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Probably with just any old auto grease - or a anti-seize.

When I install the bars I'll look into fixing that and pass it on.

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Digndoug

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HaHa, That sucks. My cai does that every nice bump i hit. it sucks, every one thinks my car is falling apart cause i always am taking it apart and working on crap.

Would you guys say it was worth the $250 ?? Like if u did it again, would u?

mikew04

#16

Since sway bars push the inside suspension up when cornering to keep the car flat, would stiffer springs reduce the effect?

Coomer

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-Digndoug+Dec 13, 2004 - 7:14 PM

QUOTE(Digndoug @ Dec 13, 2004 - 7:14 PM)

Would you guys say it was worth the $250 ?? Like if u did it again, would u?
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I would, but I'd install them myself and pound the underbody in a bit while I was doing the install.

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Drocay

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does it rub on the left side or right so i'll know were to pound out. >>

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Digndoug

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-Drocay+Dec 14, 2004 - 4:21 PM

QUOTE(Drocay @ Dec 14, 2004 - 4:21 PM)

does it rub on the left side or right so i'll know were to pound out. >>
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haha good call.

Coomer

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-Drocay+Dec 14, 2004 - 8:21 AM

QUOTE(Drocay @ Dec 14, 2004 - 8:21 AM)

does it rub on the left side or right so i'll know were to pound out. >>
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Left side I believe...Maybe this weekend I'll instally my new bushings and take a photo of the rubbed area for you guys...I can tell where it rubbed because there's no more paint there...so I'll spray it with some industrial grade rust-proof coating and then spray it with underbody coating too.

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jgreening

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I would really appreciate those pics Coom. I have been under my car a couple times and have a really difficult time telling where it is rubbing. It sounds as if mine is coming from the front passenger side though.

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Coomer

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-jgreening+Dec 15, 2004 - 2:52 PM

QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 15, 2004 - 2:52 PM)

I would really appreciate those pics Coom.  I have been under my car a couple times and have a really difficult time telling where it is rubbing.  It sounds as if mine is coming from the front passenger side though.
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I'll see what I can do. I think I'm pretty busy this weekend and next, but maybe during my break from work between Christmas and New Years I can get stuff done. >>

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Supersprynt

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wouldntn you be able to see where its rubbing as the color is rubbed off?

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Coomer

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-Supersprynt+Dec 15, 2004 - 3:11 PM

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 15, 2004 - 3:11 PM)

wouldntn you be able to see where its rubbing as the color is rubbed off?
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I sure can. Maybe jgreening's doesn't rub as bad as mine does. >>

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Supersprynt

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I get mine in 9 days so we'll see what happens.

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latinomasfino

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-Supersprynt+Dec 16, 2004 - 3:37 PM

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 16, 2004 - 3:37 PM)

I get mine in 9 days so we'll see what happens.
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where did u order ur sway bars? and how much$

jgreening

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wouldntn you be able to see where its rubbing as the color is rubbed off?

It is VERY difficult to see up there. I had the car up on stands and with the lowered suspension there wasn't much room to look "above" the bar to see where it was hitting the underside of the car. From Coom's post I assume that the top of the sway bar is hitting the underside of the car when it goes above the underbrace. This is where I suspect mine is hitting as well and there really isnt enough room to see well. Also, the bar is silver unlike the stock black. The underside of the car is a similar color and not painted so its hard to tell. >>

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where did u order ur sway bars? and how much$

I got mine from NOPI

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Supersprynt

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I also got mine at Nopi.

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zipstrips

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the sway bars affect the body roll and weight transfer. they'll make the steering feel much more responsive.. install only the front and you will understeer, just the rear and you will see your car oversteer more. ST recommends installing both, together. installing only the front or rear is "dangerous." i only got my front install cause i didnt feel like pulling the tank yet. understeer much? no, but if i was on the solo2 course im sure id be pushing and spinning tires much more than necessary. installing the real will clear that problem up thou. Clearence issuse? i have had no added rubbing touching or noise from my front.

jgreening

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Coom:

Did you ever take those pics? Just curious...

Jay.

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.