See but they already have platforms in house to make a new Celica though, just base it off the Corolla hatchback and job done.

so the rebadged z4 has 335 hp and the actual z4 has 380 hp. muhahaha funny !

is this true??? https://www.tflcar.com/2019/05/holy-horsepo...toyota-claimed/

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just through the turbo 4 cylinder from the nx200t into the corolla and bam. you have a sport tuned corolla. no need to make a new platform.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 22, 2019 - 5:21 PM

Yes, Toyota de-tuned the B58 to meet their standards of reliability and longevity.

They could do that too, but it'd be nice to see a new Celica and an alternative to the Civic Si.

Speculation is that Toyota may have sent out a 'ringer' to C&D, also that particular type of Dyno tends to read a little higher. You'd need to dyno many Supra on many dyno types to get a consensus figure for power and torque.

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I wouldn’t be surprised, given all the negative views on the car. Car and Driver’s findings have certainly had a big impact in the perception of the car across several of the Facebook groups. That huge torque figure compared to power makes me think that little baby turbo is at the top of its efficiency range so there may not be much more power to be made by turning the boost up. Since it does have a BMW ECU, I’ll be curious to see what the aftermarket can do with a reflash but it doesn’t seem like there’s much room for more boost.

Hopefully Gazoo’s website isn’t lying to us about Toyota finally starting a heritage parts program. They specifically name the A70 and A80 as first up which is exciting for me for obvious reasons, but equally exciting is the following line that is largely being ignored- other models may follow. I suggest starting with the 6gc first! Although we all know they’ll probably do the 7gc, maybe 2nd and 3rd gen MR2, then realize they’re losing money and call it quits.

Probably because Mazda started restoring NA Miatas and making parts for the NA and NB again, you can buy a new hardtop from Mazda now for instance.

I think it'd be great if most manufacturers started making new parts for older enthusiast cars, since they can't give us an exact replica it's the next best thing. Though Supra aside the contemporary cars are better in every way over their predecessors.

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The 7th gen wasn't a seller and isn't a 'classic' like the Supra and MR2, it will get nothing, and a lot of the parts are still available to order for the car anyway so it's not really needed. Not sure what the huge deal for the Supra parts is...we were able to order dealer parts for the one at the shop, $70 for a new front fender was very reasonable and the other gasket sets weren't awful either. Maybe our dealer is just awesome?

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Don't you mean Nissan? They were the first to do this when they announced that they were going to start making GTR parts again.

But who is going to pay dealer prices for some of the stuff, Sure the A80 is an average 30k car, so its valid.

the A70 is an average 4k if not less car. and to spend top dollar on a fender, when you can get it used for less. that is when toyota will realize they will be loosing money.

The celica 6th gen, who will pay 2k for a new s54 transmission, or 200 for a fender. I hear people argue about paying 400 for a used celica lol..

Same as all people, wanted manual transmissions, and no one buys the car. People want, people cry, oh no the car will be discontinued, they want more and more and more, and dont want to pay prices for it. Want it cheap.

I get why toyota went with BMW to get the supra at a cheap price, but they also made it cheap.. If you cannot beat what you did 1 generation ago, dont do it again. Call it something else. The Toyota 86 was a good car, because it had nothing to be compared to, it was the first generation.

Call this Hybrid a supra, and not make up for years of not having a supra, and come up with a souped up Z4, lol...... At least we know toyota made the badges.

I love my A70, even tough it came with problems, and i paid premium for it, but its the best bang for the buck. 1jz engine, and not the A80 prices, plus flip up headlights.

new supra is not a supra. its a Zupra

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Oh I have no idea, I just knew about Mazda since it's relevant to those of us in the U.S. I think most manufacturers are making parts for older models to some extent, it's like you can still buy a new 4th gen F-body dash pad from GM. Though that's easy money for them since they keep breaking... Hey there's an idea, Nissan can reproduce S13 dashes and BMW can reproduce E30 dashes in "o.e. quality" and get in on the same cash flow as GM.

I think we forget that it's just a select few at Toyota that want these kind of cars to be made, and to appease the bean counters and investors they have to make a lot of compromises. I'm sure most of the Toyota brass are more than content with churning out Camries, Corollas, 4Runners, Priuses, and Tacomas. So I'm happy that at least Toyota is trying again to some extent, I think for most the only real legitimate complaint is the lack of a manual when BMW is using one in the Z4(in Europe for now, but should get here with the Z4M). The only way for Toyota to have done it all mostly in house would've been to base it on the RC or LC and then try to get a BMW drivetrain into it and working, or they could've gave up using the inline six for the 2GR-FE but then it'd just been a redone RC. They could've taken what they've given to Lotus for it and supercharged it, but then had they called it a Supra then you'd have those crying for the inline six. You can't make everyone happy, but only offering a torque converter automatic in what's supposed to be an enthusiast's performance car was just stupid. It'd be like only offering a premier luxury car with a manual, even though that's what I and the internet will tell you the world wants.

This post has been edited by Box: May 23, 2019 - 3:45 PM

Let me put it this way: $500 floormats and $3,000 shift panels say that Toyota reproducing A80 parts is a big deal. I doubt if the FWD Celicas will get too many parts reproduced. Toyota knows nobody would buy S54’s. But new OEM projector headlights, JDM tails, ST205 bumpers and hoods, those parts would be worthwhile to make another run. I get the feeling that MR2’s will get special treatment before ST205’s, and neither may get any parts at all. I’m still waiting for Toyota to make an official announcement of the heritage parts program and what parts they intend to bring back. Anything at all is better than nothing.

Nissan started the heritage parts program by buying back old 240Z’s and restoring them and followed with GTR parts. Mazda followed suit with restored Miatas. The market for a heritage parts program exists if Toyota chooses to invest in it. I’d send my Supra off to them to be restored in a heartbeat if they offered anything like that.

I can’t help but wonder, if Toyota did build their own Supra with no help from BMW, with 500 hp and a $100k price tag, would it sell? Toyota have created a certain stigma with the badge of being sensible and frugal. I for one would weigh my options before spending six figures on a Toyota badge. The GTR does well for itself but Nissan hasn’t pushed their boring cars the way Toyota pushes the Sienna and Prius in the US market.

you're lowballing on those floormats. lol I've seen them bastards go for $700-$1200 for floormats that were $150 brand new. ****'s insane. S1 shift panels are still available I think. It's that left panel that is discontinued where people want $500 for something that was $75 new.

I think what's helping the GT-R is the insane amount of performance it offers for the money, and it kind of gives something to Americans they normally couldn't get until just now. That being the "Skyline" or the GT-R ones anyway, since the G series is technically the Skyline now or whatever the Hell took its place recently. Plus if you wanted a new car(lease or pay to own) that was bonkers fast and Japanese it was your only option. Sure there's the NSX now, but that's super expensive.

Meh, here's to hoping they bring out a new MR2 that's a re-badged Elise that passes through U.S. safety regulations.

Dear Toyota,
Please remake 1st gen celica parts. That is all.

sincerely,
Firstname Lastname



This is more than I paid for my hunk o junk:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Celica-1974...sgAAOSw0c9bsQX0

Sales on the new NSX has diminished to where they're offering $20K off to help sales.

Who is this ngo guy that talks like he has a zupraw. Lol.

That’s why I cannot consider buying an A80, priced at insane amounts. I’m happy with what I have. Heritage program may be good, if they had not destroyed the old inventory. Reproducing parts will be pricey, but then again, 1000 floor Mats? Lol

Sometimes I consider getting rid of it all and buy a Yugo.

^I've had the same thought, just give up on cars and get a Camcord like the rest of the world. Would make life easier since I'll never be able to afford the one car I really want anyway, so might as well.

This post has been edited by Box: May 24, 2019 - 8:58 PM

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Ngo idea who that is....

inventory gets sold. molds get destroyed.

Motor1.com: Three 2020 Toyota Supras Damaged In Transport Trailer Crash.
https://www.motor1.com/news/360361/toyota-s...ruck-crash/amp/

"Low miles no rust MUST SEE TO BELIEVE no low balls I know what I have. 80k OBO"