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Topic #95687 53 posts Started by Tecker184
More progress, to do list is very small. Hope to drive it this weekend.

Brake line mount on a st205 so this had to be done









The shop
Nice Jeep...and Deuce...and big logo on the wall. That thing light up ?

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Ah now finally understand that hard brake line mounting point on ST205

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The funny thing is, in the US and in Europe everyone wants to have JDM style in there car, but here, 90% of cars onroad are Japanese used imports, so our cars started off JDM and alot of us want the European styling instead lol.... And ofcourse, the classic muscle cars here, having the steering wheel on the Left is a cool thing here lol

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Its the sign from a local dealer. They did a remodel and I happen to know some people who know people who work there. Of course it lights up lol



No jeeps at my house my friend, that there is my daughter FJ lol. On another note the car is pretty much done. I took it down the road this past weekend. Been too busy to update but here it is.







And last but not least the video of me pulling the car out for the first time



This post has been edited by Tecker184: Nov 16, 2015 - 8:38 PM
Look amazing! smile.gif

Is your rear end too far forward?
I only ask because I know Malek's is a true GT4 and it doesn't seem like the wheels are as off center.


This post has been edited by mkernz22: Nov 17, 2015 - 6:11 AM
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>Look amazing! smile.gif

Is your rear end too far forward?
I only ask because I know Malek's is a true GT4 and it doesn't seem like the wheels are as off center.

Funny thing, Maleks AWD conversion had that exact same caster issue

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Yupp, i saw the same issue on a car that was converted. Wheel is not centered in the wheel well. I thought because i ised the floor that it would remedy that problem. Makes me think the shock tower is a little farther back in the st205. I plan on discussing this with Nick and see what he wants to do about it. I may be able to solve the issue by extending the north south arms that center the wheel.
I don't have first hand experience, but I'm pretty sure there is a difference in length between the usdm GT, and GT4 trailing arms. Either that, or the mounting point for the trailing arms is different between the two frames. A member recently posted their GT4 conversion showing that they had to lengthen the arms to get the wheel in the center, I'll post a link if I find it

This post has been edited by enderswift: Nov 17, 2015 - 1:38 PM
First, the rear is too high, get it lowered at the right height, it will move the wheel a little back.
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>I don't have first hand experience, but I'm pretty sure there is a difference in length between the usdm GT, and GT4 trailing arms. Either that, or the mounting point for the trailing arms is different between the two frames. A member recently posted their GT4 conversion showing that they had to lengthen the arms to get the wheel in the center, I'll post a link if I find it


Yeah, but they used the whole floor pan whereas Malek's old car just had brackets welded on, I believe?
You would think everything should line up almost perfect by swapping out the rear floor pans, but obviously there is still something else that we're missing since the wheels are being pulled too far forward.
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QUOTE (enderswift @ Nov 17, 2015 - 1:35 PM) *
>I don't have first hand experience, but I'm pretty sure there is a difference in length between the usdm GT, and GT4 trailing arms. Either that, or the mounting point for the trailing arms is different between the two frames. A member recently posted their GT4 conversion showing that they had to lengthen the arms to get the wheel in the center, I'll post a link if I find it


Yeah, but they used the whole floor pan whereas Malek's old car just had brackets welded on, I believe?
You would think everything should line up almost perfect by swapping out the rear floor pans, but obviously there is still something else that we're missing since the wheels are being pulled too far forward.


I'm gonna measure the st204 and 205 trailing arms this weekend to be sure
I can take measurements as well if need be

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I'd say start with measuring from the center of the big hole on each strut tower to the latch. Doing that on both sides. It's the most simple thing to measure.

One from a GT4 and one from a swapped one.
Here is some pics at different height, see how it gets forward when it's higher. The "standard" height you see here is a little higher because of the stripped interior. Anyway, it's just to show my point.



http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...5137&st=140

Domspun you may be right . The ride height would definitely force the wheel to follow the arc created by the trailing arm. I wonder what would cause that difference in height? I dont think the stut towers are different height between the two chassis.... In any case others have worked around this issue by modifying the trailing arms. Scroll down and you'll see that the rear trailing arm was modified to allow for adjustment.

This post has been edited by enderswift: Nov 24, 2015 - 9:51 PM
So what you're saying is slam it and the wheel should be perfectly centered laugh.gif

That does make sense though. Since the car is sitting higher, the trailing arm would be angled downward thus pulling the wheel toward the front of the car. As the car is lowered, the trailing arm becomes more level thus pushing the wheel backward and making it more centered in the wheel well.
The GT arms are half an inch longer. Im going to put them in the trunk. When Nick puts coil overs in and lowers the car he can decide if he wants to swap them out or use both arms to make one. I can see how the increase in ride hight would cause this issue. I too do not know why it sits up so high. He plans on getting coil overs as soon as its down his way.
Maybe the towers in the gt are too low..

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So Nick flew in last week and took the car. I suppose this will be the end of this thread. Took it to the local toyota dealer had the car aligned. Toe was spot on all 4 wheels. Caster and camber where off slightly but there is no adjustment from the factory. Had only one small hickupp on the car after completion. When i was driving the car home from the dealership the alternator failed leaving me stranded on the side of the road the day Nick was boarding his flight to come get the car. But after i replaced the alternator everything was great. He drove it from Fort Edward NY to Base in North Carolina with out issue.

Dont forget to check out my facebook page for future projects link in first post. Currently in the garage is my 93 st185. Plan is 2grfe swap, Borg Warner EFR, AEM Infinity 6, sunroof removal with non sunroof skin, and weight reduction. End goal is 500 awhp and 2500# street car and apear to have a full interior.

In between 1uzfe swap in my ae86 and 6speed trans install in my 2zzge aw11.

i want to see that 2gr swap.

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