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Lol calm down man

lessen wheel hope with custom made spherical bushings, or find the inner diameter and necessary measurements for the mcpherson control arms and source one from another vehicle that an aftermarket company made spherical bushings for, or install superstrut suspension

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I was planning on getting poly bushings from that dude in poland.. and I already have coilovers so screw the super strut lol
although I do wish I went with my original plans to swap a beams in. Couldve gotten a front clip with lsd and superstrut for 1450 shipped but decided to go this route instead based on power goals and accessibility of parts. That damn beams is too rare

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I wouldn't go near superstrut, that stuff is way too expensive to maintain.

This place right? http://gt4-racing.eu/index.php

This post has been edited by mkernz22: Nov 16, 2014 - 6:29 PM

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Yes. Gonna get control arm bushings and some new endlinks..might get tranny mount inserts from kirkosaurus

Just throwing this out there but the BEAMS is NOWHERE near the "pain" that people think it is. Normal wear items are readily available here in the States and extended wear items like the timing belt and cool packs do take a little time to order from Japan, but they're also easy to keep an eye on and order well ahead of time. That being said, 3S-GTE is still the way to go!

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Lol then maybe once im done with this build ill find an auto GT with a blown engine and drop a beams in, then just daily that one.
and yes I said auto. All my friends are too lame to learn how to drive stick, so sometimes finding a designated driver is damn near impossible. Also I take a lot of trips to far places, so maybe I wanna sleep and have a friend drive instead.

Anyone have any idea if its possible to install a steptronic shifter and tranny from a newer car and run it off some weird standalone ecu? Not that I want to im just curious. I know the new corollas have a 5 speed auto tranny with paddle shifters...or was it 6 speed?

Arturio55... From what I read in this topic you already know everything you need. So I am afraid you really can not get more from here. To your question: Is here anyone who has 400HP as daily driver? (based on 20 years old car with 20 years old engine). I believe is not (but I can be wrong... I am here 10 years - true - but am not active poster anymore. Anything could change meanwhile). Why?

1) put 400HP to FWD (in terms of technology 20 years old) car and make it daily drive is stupid idea. In real world you need to corner (from time to time) not just drive straight. Front wheels need to be able to steer in first place. Not mentioning tarmac is not always perfect dry to get all power from wheels to the road. And when I say 400HP I talk about REAL power. Not some impossible fakes I read about in some topics here. I know how much REAL power can handle stock 3SGTE injectors, I know how much boost can engine internals handle... Read through some UK forums .

2) build such a car (and running it more than few miles) cost money. Insane amount of money. You have no idea... (If I knew 5 years ago how much I pay in total I would not do it at all).

You no need to "lol" to what I wrote (what you will do for sure anyway because you have own opinion on things and you believe it's only true) - sure. Have it. Only what has left to share is:

- I had FWD Celica with GT-four power as daily drive (so far from 400HP). It was real power on wheels. Tuned on Dyno. And it was not not that funny as I expected (more scary than funny).
- I have now my second Celica (because I learned from mistakes it is GT-Four) let's say with power you aim to. I paid $35K in total and it took 5 years finishing it. I found limits of stock 3SGTE engine. And learned effective power is not just about engine... engine has now 25k miles on clock. And still perfectly running (proof of well job done).

I had my lesson. Now is your time .

This post has been edited by malpaso: Nov 18, 2014 - 3:51 AM

Could not have been said better ^^^

Malpaso, thank you for understanding that I do actually know what im talking about... some of the other members must think im some stupid kid.
secondly, yes I know itll be hard to control. Im hoping the lsd, coilovers and poly bushings will help control that.
Also, no im not gonna "lol" at what you said. I know its sort of ridiculous to throw 400hp at a fwd car. Thats why I asked if anyone has done it, I wanted to know if it was practical at all. I wanted to hear about personal experiences. To my understanding, Tao has done it and did it well. Thank you for your input also.

Im gonna try to build that power reliably. If its too much (which it most likely will be) then ill just keep the boost at a low setting...maybe get an electronic boost controller with multiple maps. And ill try to tune it so that it accesses that power in the high rpms, that way I can just keep a light foot while city driving.

I know ill be throwing a lot of money into it. But we don't have gt4s in the USA. I have considered getting a 5th gen alltrac, but they only pop up once in a blue moon. Very rare. Maybe in the future ill try to do an awd conversion. Ive done my fair share of research and seen pipes car, Czwalga, and a couple other attempts. If I ever get the money ill experiment.

I want to thank everyone who was friendly and actually tried to help and answer my question. I know everything I need to know about building an engine/suspension. Just wanted to know if anyone was able to build a practical fwd 400hp celica. Ill take my chances and let the 6gc world know how it turns out

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I've got a solution for you.

Scrap this idea of building 400hp, and buy Tao's car! He just posted a thing on the 6GC facebook page the other day he was thinking of selling.

Tao didnt accept my fb request yet lol...either way im sure he'll be charging more money than it would cost me to build my car the way I want it. I dont have 5 or 6000 bucks. Even if I didnt I wouldnt be able to spend it all at once. With my build ill be buying things over time. Engine next month, then 4 months later standalone ecu, then soon after new turbo kit. Hopefully in between all that I can get bodywork and paint done

I saw once a FWD celica with a played with 3SGTE, not sure how many BHP it had but it was more than standard, I believe it was more or less a daily driver so it has been done, what it was like to drive and live with God only knows.

It will certainly be an interesting challenge that's for sure. 400bhp in an AWD Celica is interesting enough.

If it goes bang after 200 miles, as long as you are prepared for that then so what!!!!! You will learn a valuable lesson, make changes and try again, as long as you have patience, learn from your lessons and have pretty deep pockets it will be a fun journey.....but also take advice from people who have been down this road, not many have but it may save you from spending a lot of money you may not need to. Also don't fixate on a number, the last thing you want to do is chase BHP figures as it will almost certainly end in tears one way or another. If you don't have deep pockets then I would think again, it won't be cheap and if things do go south and you can't afford to fix it, it will all be for nothing and very frustrating. Hardly anything on a 3sgte is cheap....apart from the scrap value.

Going from my experience I would do a straight swap with a standard 3sgte engine, run that for a while and see what you think, it might not be the way you want to go, but you will learn about the engine, and perhaps be able to better guide yourself as to which modifications would work best. Even just changing the ECU to a fully mappable version can make such a difference to a car. I managed to get near to 340BHP with an ECU, hybrid turbo and boost controller, & 1.3 bar , the engine was otherwise completely standard. That was more or less the limit of the injectors, managed to clock up 235,000 miles like that, over 100,000 of those at 1.1 to 1.3 bar. FWD will certainly place less strain on the engine which will help things last. Also if you have big BHP available dosnt mean you have to use it, you could have a daily setting and a weekend setting on the ECU. What ever you decide I hope it goes well.

Thanks for the input, and for understanding that im prepared for the outcome, whatever it may be.
lol of you can daily 340 at over 1 bar for over 100000 miles then im sure 400 will last almost as long, if not longer, if its tuned right.
I dont have deep pockets but im not too materialistic. Honestly I LOVE my car but if it blew up (although the chances of this have to be 1 in a thousand..im sure it would throw a rod before any catastrophic happened) I would salvage what I could then just buy another. Not like im doing anything else with my time/money.
I live at home with mom and sister. Only bill I pay is internet, and the various traffic tickets im paying off. I can afford a mistake or 2.

Also yea I think the hydra ems has more than one map, even if I dont utilize that I can get an electronic boost controller. Some of those have 3 or 4 maps! Plus the scramble setting. Im gonna build a 400hp car no matter what. Daily driving it is a different story. If its too hard to control then cool, ill just daily it at 250 or 300, then turn up the boost when the occasion calls for it.
Also ill make sure to keep a fire extinguisher in the car lolol

You might want to look into EMS's that allow boost by gear as well. First gear with an S54 will be useless on a stock 3S, much less 400 hp.

Also, link to Tao's possible FS post.

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hes asking for a great price. Maybe as low as 3500?! Thats insane bc hoping he gets back to me asap to give me his mod list

This post has been edited by Arturio55: Nov 19, 2014 - 6:47 PM