well it started as a celica / supra

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This will not be a scion. It will be Toyota or Lexus if it does come around. This is WAAAAAAAAAAY out of the scion target market and price market....100k Scion

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I'm well aware that the Supra was a spin off of the Celica platform.

The point was you don't go from a 2500 pound car with a TT rotary making 255hp and getting to 60mph in 5 seconds to a 3200 pound car with a N/A rotary making 180 (or whatever) and getting to 60MPH in around 8 seconds as a successor.

You don't go from a car that was built to compete with the top Cobra Mustangs, SS Camaro's and Corvettes of the day, and revive it to compete with a non-SI civic...



You come out with a different platform like toyota/subaru did if you're looking at targeting a younger crowd with a less expensive sporty vehicle. If you try to just "continue the legacy" like Mazda did with the Rx-8 you'll end up with... the Rx-8... which after years of awful sales is now dead. It was billed and priced like a successor to the RX-7 but without any of the performance.

Nissan is doing things the right way (350/370z) but I'm upset that it's taken Toyota and Mazda so long to get back to the big 3 of the early 90's with the Supra/300ZX/RX-7. Build a proper sports can and price it accordingly.

This post has been edited by cardshark525: Jan 15, 2014 - 11:44 AM

you think toyota looses sleep over these posts. LOL..

they can do and will do whatever they want.

just like they downsized the mr2 to a crappy spyder

they downsized the celica idea of big car, awd, to the last 7th gen, that was just a no no..

just like they downplayed the toyota 86 to a scion frs

they are not going to invest millions of dollars to get out a car, if they know it will not sale like hotcakes... Scion is like a waffle house right now....

And player is right, more likely it will be a lexus.... and will replace the IS..

there is no way it will be a tree hugging toyota....

Not so sure about that as it sort of falls inline with the Lexus RC-F. One of the FT-1 lead project members mentioned that Scion has the FR-S, Lexus has the upcoming RC-F, but Toyota as a brand lacks a performance car in its line-up and the FT-1 was conceived to change that.

when that happens ill trade my sti for it

HAHAHAHAAH you'll need 3 -4 NEW STi's to pay for this thing

lol, 3 stis, and a bag of chips...

a 100K toyota is doomed to fail,

a 100k nissan, did not, because they brought back a goodfellas name....

haha yea we need to wake up from our dream. toyota wont bring back a sports car that was manufactured 100% by Toyota Company alone

I've heard mixed responses. That Toyota aren't interested in doing performance cars anymore, they want to do more reliable & economic vehicles. Which I thought they already do that anyway?

Then they reveal this FT-1, from this angle GT86 front & LFA rear



And I don't know how reliable this is, a new supra, can't find the one I was looking for

I dont consider the scion tc as the newer Celica. Lol. They're. Nothing like the celicas. Doesn't even have the sexy curves. Lol

that's just a toyota 86 with different headlights, tail lights, and some custom bodywork.

This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Jan 16, 2014 - 1:20 AM

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And a little engine work that puts power at ~320HP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO0T-eb1jrI

It's missing a pedal.

Toyota FT-1 confirmed as next gen Supra! Also, that's a stunning photo on the article.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/02...-gen-supra.html

Here's a link to an article with a lot of beautiful, HQ images.

http://dailyderbi.com/toyota-ft-1-concept-revealed/

This post has been edited by HectortheRican: Feb 8, 2014 - 5:24 PM

If it bears any resemblance mechanically to the LFA, 100k is gonna feel like the bargain of the century. How much did they learn building that animal? Probably the most technically advanced car in the world, other than the Mclaren P1. And they never made a profit on the LFA, so they're gonna want their development money back somehow, and putting technology already used (but relatively unknown and on a tiny scale) into an apparently brand new design could be the answer.

So if any of the tech from LFA goes into the new Supra, and they market it as such, everyone who knows how great that was is gonna be hammering Toyotas Showroom windows in. They'd be getting a 350k supercar at 1/3 cost! And if they can bring it in for say 75k with LFA tech, finally something to panic the GTR.

We could have a battle not seen since impreza vs evo!

[quote name='yagamius' date='Jan 13, 2014 - 9:39 AM' post='1036036']
Toyota Announce the FT-1 on Detroit Auto Motor Show. Looks a promising concept RWD car and hey that's how it start the GT-86

here some Pics




is it me or does it look like this guy?

I like the FT-1. It looks good and hopefully it will perform well. At least Toyota is trying to be more "sporty".

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It's not even close. I drove one yesterday and I hated it. It may have been quicker than my GT but everything else was terrible,especially the steering.