I know I'm joining this late, and didn't feel like reading the plethora of BS shenanigans that some members choose to post, so I'll say what I'm doing to keep myself from buying an MR2.

The American 6GC is not designed to be fast. You can make it fast... but that also leads to reliability issues. Personally, I decided to route my focus towards aesthetics. Already had fun with the Koni yellow's and Eibach's... but now I'd rather have a lower, more stanced look. So, I'm changing my direction from making it a quick car, to making it a fun, slow car lol. Being slow can be fun too... it's all in how your head is screwed on. I drove my friends slammed Jetta and loved the feeling of being so low and wide. I've never seen a 6GC around here with the picture I have in my head as a setup
Idk if this scene is right for you, but it's definitely one route for making yourself more interested in your car..

Make yours original, do what YOU want with it and do little things here and there. The first thing I had to do to it was to make the interior MINE. It's where you'll be spending most of your time (unless your a swap head, who spends most of his time under the hood. Huhuhuhu) and deserves the most attention IMO. That's why I spend the money on the gauge, cluster bezels, carbon fiber shifter, leather, brake handle, and the LED kit. Now that I've got it to where I want it, I'm focusing on the exterior.

One thing that can be said about the Celica; the driving experience around the city and around the twisties is something I've never felt in another car. It's unique. It had sat for 2 years without being run, cleaned, or moved. I opened it up, cleaned out the spider webs, checked the oil, put a battery in the back and tried. First crank, no result. Second crank, it made some noise. Third, it started right up and kept running on 2 year old fuel. The thing had a spunk to it and a personality... I might just be a sentimental softie, but this car was fantastic.

I've driven a Miata too, and it was a first gen, first production run, #150+/-. I could only smile while driving it. I might have looked gay or like someone in midlife crisis, but I was happy. The Miata is an experience all to it's own, just like the 6GC. Something about having the open top with the rear axle right behind your, rwd, and the smallness of the thing just felt right. That's part of the reason I want an MR2. (for the rwd and smallness) But I don't see myself selling or getting rid of the 6G. If I do, I'm almost positive I'll buy another lol.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Mar 15, 2013 - 2:00 PM

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This, and the rest too, most of it anyway. There is a soul to the Celica, undoubtedly. An A4 has twice the power and doesn't give me the same kicks.

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i just like to troll him

^^Nice self shot^^

Yeah I know posting the negatives isn't going to get much love around here, but like I said it's just how I am. I seem to find the bad in everything... For the sake of comradery I'll stop as I've said all that needs to be said. I wish I could find it, but I had a HUGE list of things I was going to do the Celica when I first got it. I was ecstatic about the car. I'm that way with every car at first, and other things... I just lose interest quickly in things. I still like the Celica, and still enjoy driving it(when not gunning it in a straight line). I've just fallen out of love with it, that's all. I guarantee whatever the next car is it'll happen to an extent. The only car I really miss is the MKIII Supra I had, but even it I had issues with. Too heavy and not enough power though, like the Celica, it handled great. I'll stick around I suppose, even if I do go domestic.

This post has been edited by Box: Mar 17, 2013 - 10:43 PM

I've driven a few other cars; mustangs, subarus, vw's, honda's, etc.
Even after I drive them, I just can't wait to get back and drive my celica.
Though the stangs and subies might have more power, I just love the feel of the celica more. I did get a nice big smile on my face the first time I drove a turbo'd car, but it wasn't because of the car, it was because of the turbo and how it made me want one on my car haha
There's just something about the Celica that I love and makes me fix her up after something goes wrong.

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Corvette's are the best bang for your buck,, very pretty cars but I think the part that ruins them for me is that every so often I'll see older women driving them. I don't know if its just me but it just completely kills it for me. Absolutely nothing against them, if you can afford it and daily drive it great. Even with Porsche's. Living around DC, they're a dime a dozen. I'm hoping in the next 2 years buy a house and once I have a place with a garage I'll be in the market for a factory five gtm supercar - just being different.

From my understanding more old ladies drive Celicas than Corvettes. Who cares though. I enjoy driving the Celica too, until a minivan flies by you. If the car was in Prelude and Type R territory power wise I'd keep it. That's really my only issue with the car. Makes you wonder what the Hell Toyota was thinking at times. They had the BEAMS, shame they never brought it over stateside.

-Box+
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power shmower. I have a story about my 90whp miata and a 400hp ferarri 360 spider... but I know this forum frowns on street racing so I won't tell it here...

Sure, that's like a three hundred pound man winning against a track sprinter in a race. Something went wrong with the sprinter.

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True that. Auto manufacturers often times make decisions and we the public just scratch out heads, but all in all its based more on consumer demand and market appeal. The lower the hp on a motor, the more gas friendly it is - so the theory goes anyways.

It was working for Honda. I guess a majority of it had to do with meeting U.S. emissions requirements.

A more powerful engine doing less work is more efficient than a weaker engine doing more work. Why many people with the LS1 with a M6 frequently report close to 30 mpg on the highway.

i tho i lost interest in my celica cuz i had my datsun 240z on the side but you know what i put falken aziens 205/50/15 on the stock rims the car handles completely different. and if you havent over steered in the celica at least once yet then you havent actually pushed it hard enough. yes i was shocked my first time. and believe it or not i had an alltrac and a 7th gen gts in front of my hands for cheaper than this 6 gen celica god knows why i picked the 99 6 gen celica. i went to buy it the guy asked too much i left 9 month later he still had it i went and bought it i fell in love with drive feeling about the car everyone here is correct this car has a certain driving feeling to it compared to any other car ive driven and i driven many cars i used to work as a vallet driver in california in wealthy areas like muholland drive malibu winery area i used to joy ride cars down the canyon and up trust me the celica is 1 of those cars that you will miss. go drive someone else's car has to be manual transmission (i call this the stranger) people think i call it the stranger cuz your driving someone elses car, nope as soon as you hop back in the celica you will feel very strange with the clutch and driving feeling of the car. until you can actually drive 100 different cars and then hop in the celica at instant and drive it normally like you always do without feeling weird then you have actually enjoyed the feeling of the car before thats how i put it. thats my reason for actually keeping my POS celica that only produces like 130hp 2.2 and leaks all over the freakin place and causes me issues and also doesnt save gas like you would think it does lol =] then again i go back in the car and i cant let it go. yes everyone i payed more for a 6 gen celica than a 7th gen or a 5th gen all trac. believe it.

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more like an experienced shooter hitting a target with no sights on his gun vs. an amateur who can't hit it with a sniper rifle..

Nothing went wrong with his car, I just know the limitations of my car and how to drive it while he did not. There's a guy on a miata forum who's signature quotes Michael Jordan (of Automobile magazine) saying "If you can't go fast with 90hp, 900 won't help you."

example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kC4Y19CWCY

Regardless, it's not the car's fault. Michael Schumacher could make just about any car fast, just like some people could make any car slow. Just sad to see a Ferrari go to waste like that.

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That's what my point was... If you think the celica is too slow maybe you just need to adjust the nut behind the wheel

It's mainly because the Celica is my first(and last) 4 cylinder car. I rather sacrifice some, if any, handling for straight line speed. Can only make a car go so fast in a straight line.

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I can make a celica fast in a straight line a hell of a lot easier than I could make a mustang or camaro be fast around a corner...

I wast necessarily talking about a straight away. 5sfe is just not the right motor around the corner. At high end it lacks much the 5sfe works ok for auto cross with the nice gear ratios but at the track the high end it's all missing that's where the beams came in. And yes driver obviously makes a difference

I like cars.

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Mustang perhaps, but the 4th gen Camaro/Firebird were quite capable in the handling department even stock. I felt safer taking a fast corner in my dad's stock Z28 than I do in my modified Celica. If stock suspension isn't enough there're companies like Eibach and Hotchkis to better refine it. Having experience with both vehicles I have to say good luck with that one.

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I'm sure your logic has deduced the fact that the Z28 is an actual "sports" car with better suspension stock whereas the Sporty Economy 6th gen Celica comes with monster truck style OEM springs so grannie's wig doesn't get knocked off on a simple speed bump.

Define "my modified Celica"

With just lowering a celica properly, I believe the Celica will win in that cornering battle. Springs cost 150 bucks, and you can pick up a good Celica for less than 4g's..shall we continue?

Or are you going to deflect with another Willy Wonka meme?

This post has been edited by rave2n: Mar 19, 2013 - 2:38 PM

It's been lowered on Tein coil springs and has KYB GR2 struts. Everything was installed and set up at a Toyota dealership. Z28 being stock was still better. A factory sports car drives better than a modified economy car, who would've thought that was ever possible.

You can also get a good LT1 F-body for under $4,000 around here, so that point is invalid.

Would also like to add it has new tires, and all of it was done within the last 5,000 miles. The Celica is a fine handling car, but it is what it is. I also am not big on FWD cars anyway, the Celica was gotten for saving gas and is the only reason I bought it.

This post has been edited by Box: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:30 PM

This thread needs to be retitled to "6gc vs. Box and/or V8 muscle cars." Enough of the pissing contest, everybody has their own opinions and each car has their pros and cons.

Plus I'll take you all on in my 350Z!!!!!!!!

Didn't know this thread would turn into a V8 vs Celica thread......... Can't we just say that they're both good in their own right?

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Bring it!

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I'll only race you in a straight line. My stock Z vs Miata in a corner... No chance.

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ok guys, time to bring out my minivan.