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Conversion: 100 to 114 - 6G Celicas Forums

Topic #87278 42 posts Started by smkr3w
UPDATE: I did the conversion and the only issue I had was the thickness of the rotors were a bit thicker so it was rubbing for a bit but after driving it around. It shaved down. Also another issue I had was that I bought the i4 camry rotors and the diameter of the if it was slightly smaller than the stock celica GT front rotor. So atm I am running on the camry front rotor and it's still grabbing but it was cause unever wear on brake pads. Since about 1/8" of the pad has no contact on the rotor. I don't know if the v6 camry has a bigger diameter for the front but this is the only issue I had in the process of this conversion.

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This is a silly question. laugh.gif

For the front hub. What year camry u used and did u compare with celica. Are they same size. No change in ofsett?

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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Feb 22, 2014 - 3:33 PM) *
>This is a silly question. laugh.gif

For the front hub. What year camry u used and did u compare with celica. Are they same size. No change in ofsett?


Didn't pay too much attention to how off it was but it was really identical. I used the rav4 front hub btw. Not the camry front hub.

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What I dont understand is why anyone hasnt tried any rotors or hubs from a mr2?

I know the hub's off the mr2 are the most similar when it comes to the celica being that the axles are just about the same using the same motor 5sfe or the 3sge



This post has been edited by sam2010: Apr 29, 2014 - 5:52 PM
GREAT!!!, now you may be able to help, because i have been looking at doing a rear disk convirsion for my ST AND a swap over to 5x114.5..... that being said i have no intent on purchasing parts that i dont need and will be replacing with new parts for the 5x114.5 swap... soooo

if any one can help me, that would be great.. if i am correct for this i would be looking at

camry rear hub, camry rear rotor, gt rear knuckle (or can i keep the ones for the st, but i am thinking that i will need the gt for the caliper mounts..), the plate with the internal parking break drum assembly, and gt caliper (though i am looking into rear caliper "OEM" upgrades like from a rav4/4runner/highlander)

and for the front, looking to do the same.. front to 5x114.5 with "OEM" upgrade... alot to cover, and for the most part already done on this site in one form or another, just not all in the same place or on the same car at once... but i do think it is possible see just as to how many of the OEM parts share the same critical specs (like caliper mounting points and bolts, rotor float offset etc)

fronts look like it will be fairly direct by this point, with the only real aftermarket part/ custom part being the break lines, slotted rotors and aggressive pads (for weekend racing like the EBC or HAWK line)

im sure i am missing some stuff.. but any help would be appreciated...

i now this is a bit of a hijack, if yall want me to start a new thread i will, just a large amount of the relevant data is already here... thank you

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This will hardly work with a st205 ?

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QUOTE (Taz @ Jul 17, 2014 - 7:44 PM) *
>This will hardly work with a st205 ?


This will work for an ST205, except you need to use a Highlander AWD rear hub
Looks like a great alternative i may have to try it with the camry front hubs to see if the work or not

This post has been edited by toyota123: Aug 14, 2014 - 10:57 AM

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QUOTE (toyota123 @ Aug 14, 2014 - 10:56 AM) *
>Looks like a great alternative i may have to try it with the camry front hubs to see if the work or not




let me know how that goes >>>>????>>>> cause im doing the conversion soon but im gonna use custom drilled celica rotors for front and back with camry hubs
Does anyone know if ST205 Celica's have gone forward with this 5x114 conversion?

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Old thread but after doing research myself this is what you need for a complete bolt on conversion. It seemed the posts just threw out car models but nothing really exact when you go looking for it. So I hope this helps someone.

>>>>FOR 5SFE CELICA GT>>>> (7AFE guys, even though originally your front brake rotors are smaller in O.D. this setup works since the fronts use the same wheel bearings, just change everything else. the rear does look like a fit as well) the one thing I am unsure if is how the 7AFE brake calipers look like or if they will fit or be the same. Conversion is the same, calipers is the next question I haven't had time for.

PARTS LIST:

Front
x2 -- 95-2000 2.0L Rav4 5dr Front Wheel Hub and Bearing Assy - Both the Rav4 and Celica share the same bearing (shares with different makes and models actually) so it saves to buy it one shot together if you can - Confirmed Just go to rockauto and click the part number to see what parts share between cars if you want reassurance
x2 -- (If getting the hub and bearing separately, you can get the bearing from this Rav4 or the Celica, doesn't matter.
x2 -- 91-96 XV10 Camry Front Rotor 275mm can be found on the 3.0L listing, be sure because the camry had maybe 3 different rotor diameters. I think there were 288mm, 275mm, and 255mm (which I think is from the 7AFE) so in this case, diameter is important. This might be the reason, the rotor was too small for ilovemysilly97 because there was a smaller size rotor. Rockauto will also list the diameter sizes making it easier for you.

Rear
x2 -- 91-96 XV10 Camry Rear Rotor 269mm can be found from a 2.2L
x2 -- 91-96 XV10 Camry - Complete Rear Wheel Hub and Bearing Assy - becomes complete bolt-on, don't get the module you don't want to piece this part out. Just get the bolt on assembly which includes the bearing, the carrier, and the hub.

Do not just go by the O.D. please continue to read through the whole thread to get an understanding. Again, this is all possible from everyone's input that I've attempted to clarify, fill some missing holes of information, and gain confirmation.


ROTOR COMPARISON: You will notice there has been measurement changes, I got the original celica specs from another post on the forum, however I got actual specs online from Rockauto which is even better for accuracy and comparison and made corrections.

Celica Outer Diameter (Front): 274.828 ~ 275mm (MATCH)
Camry Outer Diameter (Front): 274.828mm considered to be really 275mm (MATCH)
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Celica Part Thickness (Front): 28mm < not exactly accurate or complete info but found new info to be 26.0096mm and also 28.067mm which is the (CLOSE MATCH)
Camry Part Thickness (Front): 27.8892mm considered to be really 28mm (CLOSE MATCH)
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Celica Height (Front)t: 55mm < actually found new info that it is 49.276 which is (MATCH)
Camry Height (Front): 49.276mm (MATCH)
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Celica Outer Diameter (Rear): 268.7 ~ 269mm (MATCH)
Camry Outer Diameter (Rear): 268.859mm considered to be really 269mm (MATCH)
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Celica Part Thickness (Rear): 8.9916 ~ 9mm < incorrect original info, I also found new info that it is 10mm (MATCH)
Camry Part Thickness (Rear): 10.033mm Slightly thicker part by 1mm < with new info above (MATCH)
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Celica Height (Rear): 55mm < found new info rear rotors are not 55mm rather 64.77mm, 55mm listed originally is incorrect from where I got this on another post (CLOSE MATCH)
Camry Height (Rear): 65.024mm Actually Taller < This is the only difference, however with the new found info of 64.77 it is approximately the same now. (CLOSE MATCH)

NOTE: I'M REALLY GOING TO STRESS THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THESE MEASUREMENTS BEFORE BUYING, I NOTICED DIFFERENT DIAMETERS AND DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, >>>PAY CLOSE ATTENTION<<<.
I AM NOT CONFIDENT ANY LONGER TO SAY GO BY THE OUTER DIAMETER, YOU NEED TO GO BY ALL THE SPECS. BE MINDFUL, IT SEEMS BETWEEN THE BENDIX, WAGNER, AND RAYBESTOS THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SUPPOSED MEASUREMENTS THAT I WAS TO MATCH UP RELATIVELY EXACTLY TO CAMRY ROTORS.
IN A NUTSHELL, THE CAMRY ROTORS ARE CONSIDERED ALMOST IDENTICAL IF NOT EXACT IF YOU USE THESE SPECS.

GLAD TO KNOW 5x114 SWAP IS BOLT-ON, NO MODIFICATION, READY TO GO, PRETTY MUCH IMAGINE ALL YOUR WHEEL BEARINGS GONE BAD AND YOU HAD TO BUY ALL OF THE PARTS, YOU'D HAVE BASICALLY AN AUTOMATIC 5x114 WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING.



This post has been edited by trdproven: May 2, 2016 - 6:05 PM

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>>available wheels =

Forged:
Anovia Kano (Gunmetal Grey) 17x8 +35 offset weigh 16.3 lbs $850

Flow Formed:
-Konig Hypergram 17x8 +35 offset (5x114) weigh 16.8 lbs each for $1100

-Circuit Performance CSF 17x8 +35 offset (5x114) weigh 18.1 lbs $850

-Rota Titan F in 17x8 +35 offset weigh 17.4 lbs for about $1200-1300 with a 2-3 month wait time from Australia

-Enkei RPF1 17x8 (also in 5x114) +35 offset weigh 16.1 lbs @ $1300 with center caps (only in Silver finish)

-Wedsport TC105X 17x8 +32 offset weigh 15.4 lbs $2350>
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This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 29, 2025 - 4:23 PM

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