No more commercial geared to 25 year old women anymore :

New BRZ commercial


And for lulz:
The first Subaru commercial in the US.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 12, 2012 - 2:40 PM

cool. haha what can it hold. more like 66 Miles per Tank

That gave me chills. lol. I want a FRS so bad.

Im also contemplating saving for one of these. Has anyone actually been able to drive one yet?
Or see one in perosn. I think there is only one in my city right now.

I've driven one. I have nothing but good things to say about it. My only gripe is the speedometer is worthless, but the digital readout makes up for it. Power is underwhelming, but the sound and the feel are more than enough to make up for that.


might have one before the end of the week...

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Aug 14, 2012 - 2:37 PM

The consensus I have gotten from people that have driven them is that they are way too low on power to be worth the $25k price tag.

Haven't seen a car commercial like that since the 90's. Only thing wrong was the "music" selection.

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Indeed, V6 Camaro and the Hyundai Genesis Coupe are in the same price range.

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Not everyone values a car based on horsepower. It's handling capabilities surpass anything on the market at the price point - and then some.

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That and the FR-S weighs 2,758 with the manual, so it's much lighter than the others. It'd be a tough choice if I had the money, would just have to drive them all extensively first. Just from what I've seen I like the FR-S quite a bit though.

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Well if you are looking for handling you can pick up a miata for much cheaper ... Also the Genesis makes 75 more hp and about twice the torque as the FRS.


EDIT: I have not driven one yet so I suppose I should not be commenting...But the NA 4cyl boxer was a stupid choice IMO.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 14, 2012 - 7:12 PM

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But you would have to wake up every morning to the fact that you drive a Hyundai.

The only thing worth anything from Korea right now is her:


I could buy a Miata for cheaper, but I already have a 2-seater that would beat the pants off of a Miata.


FR-S has four seats (if you're hauling midgets, but four nonetheless), more power than the Miata, better fuel economy than the Miata, it doesn't have the reliability of a Mazda (read: wet napkin), and doesn't look like poop..... like the Miata.

And I'm not gay, so no Miata for me. Darn.







Serioiusly, go find someone with a BR-Z/FR-S and drive it. Then come back.

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Aug 14, 2012 - 7:54 PM

I want one then immediately turbo it lol. Kinda retarded tho, buying a brand new car and voiding the warranty right away. Guys are making 270+ whp at 10 psi. Stock is 161 whp. Complete turbo kit is around $5k.

270 whp would be so fun in a 2800 lbs rwd car with great handling.

Yea its a bit stupid to pay $25k for a car that is not luxurious, fuel efficient, OR powerful..

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Try 324whp @ 9psi
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14313


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How about a car that is FUN?

lol I can go buy a $400 POS geo metro and have "fun". I just personally think the car is overrated, but that is just my personal ignorant opinion.

Sick commercial, good looking car but it's really talked up from what i see and hear. Although i do love my WRX

I think a lot of it is you don't see handling on paper, aside from a skid pad rating. You can put horsepower, weight, mpg, etc... on paper. It's something that can be visualized, and is easier to grasp without actually experiencing it in person. At least that's my take on it. Lots of cars can be fun, and for different reasons. It's just depends on what you want in a car. If they could manage to get the FR-S down to say $2,000 under the Genesis and Camaro, it'd go a long way with helping it I believe. The auto FR-S gets 25/34, and the manual gets 22/30. Don't quite understand that one, but ok.

gear ratios are different between the two.

subaru's were never known for high revving n/a engines. only the turbo models.

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Well yes, but manuals have always gotten better than their automatic counterparts. Times, they are a changin'.

I think that happened about 5 years ago^ lol..

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Some of the newer cars are still rated better with a manual. Few and far between though.

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With all this bashing, have you actually driven one?

Honestly, I will hold back my opinion until I actually drive one. I value handling over HP anyways... that's why I have a 5S-FE Celica that will stay 5S-FE and have sunk all of my money into suspension parts lol.


Edit: NVM, it's not even worth arguing.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Aug 17, 2012 - 5:01 PM

**** handling and braking, going as fast as possible in a straight line is what really matters.

I think I stated that I have not driven one in real life yet about 3 times. I do not count forza(Although the thing SCREAMS that it needs more torque in the game). Also this 330hp car is still making **** for torque(However it is better lower) and from personal experience driving a 120hp car with 120lbs(Celica) feels A LOT faster than a honda with 120hp and 90lbs. Low down torque is VERY noticeable in corners. If I find someone with one, or if a dealership gets one in I will be sure to test drive one just to confirm my ideas.. If not, I trust the people that I have spoken with about them, and I know what they look like on paper.


Turbo graph:



I am not trying to bash this car, it is a great addition to the Toyota family, but this whole "Its the best production car out right now for the price and a must have" is just bull****, regardless if it is "fun to drive". 150lbs is just inexcusable. Yes when coming from a celica or similar it is going to feel AWESOME, you know why? 200hp and rwd. I am hoping this car is just the start of the Toyobaru sports cars and that they add boost,quality and longer lines into the FRS equation to make a real $25k car.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 18, 2012 - 2:14 PM

The closest car to the FR-S/BRZ in somewhat recent times that I can think of is the 240SX. Made 155 hp @ 5600 rpm and 160 ft-lbs. @ 4400 rpm for the 1998 year. Also weighed in at 2,800 pounds, got 22/28 on premium, and cost $18,359 MSRP for the base model in 1998. Which in today's money equates to $25,804. I have a feeling the same people that like(d) the 240SX will also like the FR-S, they seem to fall into the same niche. From what I've seen of the FR-S it looks promising. I remember at one point reading that the FR-S could use any of the current Boxer engines. Provided the FR-S sells well, there might be one from the factory with the STI engine in it. One can hope anyway.