So I got a new job a couple weeks ago. Got my first check yesterday and I am going to be able to save up for it quick so i'm wondering would a 3sgte swap still be decent on gas? I'll be driving an average of 35 miles a day but want something more fun to drive.
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to be practical, i would suggest that the first thing you do is buy a cheap beater that is reliable. a swapped car is sensitive to routine maintenance, and is likely to have downtime on occasion. can you drive it back and forth? yeah! do you really want to put so many miles on it? meh. it will be "okay" on gas as long as you stay out of boost, but hearing you say you want something more fun, i doubt you can resist! (most of us cant lol)
i learned that having a nice DD thats inexensive and reliable is the best way to go
cheers!
QUOTE (Unholy @ Mar 4, 2012 - 4:39 PM) 
>So I got a new job a couple weeks ago. Got my first check yesterday and I am going to be able to save up for it quick so i'm wondering would a 3sgte swap still be decent on gas? I'll be driving an average of 35 miles a day but want something more fun to drive.
to be practical, i would suggest that the first thing you do is buy a cheap beater that is reliable. a swapped car is sensitive to routine maintenance, and is likely to have downtime on occasion. can you drive it back and forth? yeah! do you really want to put so many miles on it? meh. it will be "okay" on gas as long as you stay out of boost, but hearing you say you want something more fun, i doubt you can resist! (most of us cant lol)
i learned that having a nice DD thats inexensive and reliable is the best way to go
cheers!
QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
I have one st204 and one st205. The difference is HUGE. I get such a bad gas mileage with the 3sgte (though it runs a 4wd drivetrain) compared to the 5sfe. I've been using the 3s on a daily basis for about 4-5months now because it's so much fun to ride and god I would've saved SO much money if I went with the 5sfe.
I've always said fun has no price though!
I've always said fun has no price though!
my 3s is terrible with gas. 10-15 mpg. haha
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Whats!?? Lol isnt something wrong??
QUOTE (garin @ Mar 4, 2012 - 6:58 PM)
>my 3s is terrible with gas. 10-15 mpg. haha
Whats!?? Lol isnt something wrong??
no thats from driving it. its a turbo car and once you get it you cant keep your foot out of it. another suggestion is a 1MZ. 200HP 200TQ NA and you will get close to 30MPG. my dads Solara gets a tad over 30 on the highway
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Thanks guys for the replies. My stock st needs some kick. Haha I think i'll have a look into the 1mz swap. If I end up not doing that I guess I'll just get a second car to deliver pizza in.
im in the process of this swap. i will take a ton of pictures and document everything
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
I've got a pretty stock 93T MR2, and she gets 25-26 mpg around town, up to a max of 30-31 if all highway.
My 99 Celica's 5S-FE gets...pretty much the same mileage. 26 day to day, 31 highway.
At least that's on regular gas, not premium like my MR2 needs. But I second what was said earlier, you NEED to have a reliable (if slow and boring) car to drive when your swap is under the knife. That's why I got my Celica, because right now the front end of the MR2 is on jack stands while I rebuild the power steering.
My 99 Celica's 5S-FE gets...pretty much the same mileage. 26 day to day, 31 highway.
At least that's on regular gas, not premium like my MR2 needs. But I second what was said earlier, you NEED to have a reliable (if slow and boring) car to drive when your swap is under the knife. That's why I got my Celica, because right now the front end of the MR2 is on jack stands while I rebuild the power steering.
I daily drive my 3SGTE and average around 20 MPG with my boost set to around 10 PSI (.75 bar). It's 30 miles each way with about 4 miles of lights and the rest freeway. If I turn the boost up to 14 PSI (1 bar), my mileage drops to the 12 to 15 range for the same commute. The car is AWD though, so there may be some gains on mileage from running FWD. As far as downtime... It's been in the shop for a week waiting on a water pump. The last extended downtime was for a clutch and those bastards took 5 months (extenuating circumstances, but still), lesson learned, I'll use the dealership from now on.
I get around 10-15L/100km with my Gt-Four.. Which is around 15miles/gallon too.
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aha got you worried now with your 3s swap in progress. I bet you'll get 20-23mpg on the street.
This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 5, 2012 - 12:14 PM
QUOTE (diegohiga @ Mar 4, 2012 - 8:59 PM)
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Whats!?? Lol isnt something wrong??
QUOTE (garin @ Mar 4, 2012 - 6:58 PM)
>my 3s is terrible with gas. 10-15 mpg. haha
Whats!?? Lol isnt something wrong??
aha got you worried now with your 3s swap in progress. I bet you'll get 20-23mpg on the street.
This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 5, 2012 - 12:14 PM
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I've gotten about 12k on my 3s swap so far.. Been running great. Best i've got for mileage was 29mpg and that was on the highway and only getting on it very few. Lol but that compared to my stock 95 gt celica It's so much more fun to drive lol. But the daily does get driven more. just cause of weather lol.
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whats your normal driving speed on the freeway and where are you rpms at??? long e153 gearing helps out with mpg
This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 5, 2012 - 2:05 PM
QUOTE (celiracer @ Mar 5, 2012 - 1:05 PM)
>I've gotten about 12k on my 3s swap so far.. Been running great. Best i've got for mileage was 29mpg and that was on the highway and only getting on it very few. Lol but that compared to my stock 95 gt celica It's so much more fun to drive lol. But the daily does get driven more. just cause of weather lol.
whats your normal driving speed on the freeway and where are you rpms at??? long e153 gearing helps out with mpg
This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 5, 2012 - 2:05 PM
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I have stock st. Haha. So i'd be a whole lot more fun to drive.
QUOTE (celiracer @ Mar 5, 2012 - 2:05 PM)
>I've gotten about 12k on my 3s swap so far.. Been running great. Best i've got for mileage was 29mpg and that was on the highway and only getting on it very few. Lol but that compared to my stock 95 gt celica It's so much more fun to drive lol. But the daily does get driven more. just cause of weather lol.
I have stock st. Haha. So i'd be a whole lot more fun to drive.
Usually around 65 70 mph if i'm cruising around that speed i sit around 3k RPM's.
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yeah lol if i get 20 ill be happy but 10 damm that will be bad
QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Mar 5, 2012 - 12:14 PM)
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aha got you worried now with your 3s swap in progress. I bet you'll get 20-23mpg on the street.
QUOTE (diegohiga @ Mar 4, 2012 - 8:59 PM)
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Whats!?? Lol isnt something wrong??
QUOTE (garin @ Mar 4, 2012 - 6:58 PM)
>my 3s is terrible with gas. 10-15 mpg. haha
Whats!?? Lol isnt something wrong??
aha got you worried now with your 3s swap in progress. I bet you'll get 20-23mpg on the street.
yeah lol if i get 20 ill be happy but 10 damm that will be bad
i also have no exhaust, for what it is worth, probably could use a tune too. im running a 2nd gen with a stock ecu ct26 turbo, and s54 trans. i have an apexi avc-r, but it aint set right. besides the boost controller. i have a mishimoto intercooler with 2.25" piping and a greddy type-s. i'm pretty sure it is typical to get about 15 or so mpg.
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that is pretty much that one thing why i havent done the 3s yet, stinkin inflating gas prices. We got the highest in the whole nation, if I was bankin' more dough then I'd have no problem. My commute to work is about 25miles and its all mountain/beach area driving so there is NO way my foot is gonna go easy 
I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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25 miles? wow. the island is that big? lol!
QUOTE (808celica @ Mar 7, 2012 - 1:44 AM)
>that is pretty much that one thing why i havent done the 3s yet, stinkin inflating gas prices. We got the highest in the whole nation, if I was bankin' more dough then I'd have no problem. My commute to work is about 25miles and its all mountain/beach area driving so there is NO way my foot is gonna go easy
25 miles? wow. the island is that big? lol!
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yeah another 25 more and im at Waikiki beach
I used to hold a cruise once a year I liked to call the Hawaii 500 but that was when I was Pres. 
but yeah $4.38 is killing me
anywho yeah if you got some extra changes every paycheck to feed your needs with the 3s the sure.
But you gotta also think what do you really mean by "worth it"
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QUOTE (garin @ Mar 6, 2012 - 9:00 PM)
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25 miles? wow. the island is that big? lol!
QUOTE (808celica @ Mar 7, 2012 - 1:44 AM)
>that is pretty much that one thing why i havent done the 3s yet, stinkin inflating gas prices. We got the highest in the whole nation, if I was bankin' more dough then I'd have no problem. My commute to work is about 25miles and its all mountain/beach area driving so there is NO way my foot is gonna go easy
25 miles? wow. the island is that big? lol!
yeah another 25 more and im at Waikiki beach
I used to hold a cruise once a year I liked to call the Hawaii 500 but that was when I was Pres. but yeah $4.38 is killing me anywho yeah if you got some extra changes every paycheck to feed your needs with the 3s the sure.
But you gotta also think what do you really mean by "worth it"
This post has been edited by 808celica: Mar 7, 2012 - 2:10 AM
I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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Isn't that how your car got tagged for recon? 'cause your foot was in it?
QUOTE (808celica @ Mar 7, 2012 - 3:09 AM)
>My commute to work is about 25miles and its all mountain/beach area driving so there is NO way my foot is gonna go easy
Isn't that how your car got tagged for recon? 'cause your foot was in it?
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I get quite average fuel consumption from the St205, around town they are terrible and on a open road when the foot is on the floor its quite bad. I do find on the motorway its very similiar to my gen 3 3sge though but stop and start and what not those 540cc injectors take the gas.
Btw we pay $2.40 a litre here so american fuel price aint that bad
Btw we pay $2.40 a litre here so american fuel price aint that bad
Decided to do a 1mz. Going to buy a second celica first though. I'm just going to keep my st for pizza deliverys. Have a feeling things are going to need replaced soon though. Hit 270k today.
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Good idea. A turbo car isn't the best idea to deliver pizzas in. Too frequent stops you wouldn't have enough cool down times for your turbo.
QUOTE (Unholy @ Mar 9, 2012 - 4:39 PM)
>Decided to do a 1mz. Going to buy a second celica first though. I'm just going to keep my st for pizza deliverys. Have a feeling things are going to need replaced soon though. Hit 270k today.
Good idea. A turbo car isn't the best idea to deliver pizzas in. Too frequent stops you wouldn't have enough cool down times for your turbo.
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LoL, I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you've never owned a turbo car before.
QUOTE (chucho @ May 18, 2012 - 11:10 AM)
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Good idea. A turbo car isn't the best idea to deliver pizzas in. Too frequent stops you wouldn't have enough cool down times for your turbo.
QUOTE (Unholy @ Mar 9, 2012 - 4:39 PM)
>Decided to do a 1mz. Going to buy a second celica first though. I'm just going to keep my st for pizza deliverys. Have a feeling things are going to need replaced soon though. Hit 270k today.
Good idea. A turbo car isn't the best idea to deliver pizzas in. Too frequent stops you wouldn't have enough cool down times for your turbo.
LoL, I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you've never owned a turbo car before.
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