ok could some list what models some of these other options come in cuz the main junk yard around is basically 400 for whatever engine you want
so depending on availablity I might look into a mz motor
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I just got my 5S back in the car tonight. The passenger side motor mount had sheared off at the block. Had to pull the motor to fix it along with a bunch of other stuff that broke as a result. Long story short, I'm not itching to pull the motor again and do a swap but I know the motors days are numbered and I should start getting things together.
Here's what I have gathered thus far:
>>>>From Wikipedia:>>>>>
>>>The >>>>
>>>>Toyota>>>>>
>>> MZ engine family is a >>>>
>>>>V6>>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>>>piston engine>>>>>
>>> series. The MZ series has an aluminum engine block and aluminum alloy >>>>
>>>>DOHC>>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>>>cylinder heads>>>>>
>>>. The cylinders are lined with cast iron, and are of a closed deck design (no open space between the bores). The engine is a 60 degree V6 design. It uses multiport >>>>
>>>>fuel injection>>>>>
>>> (MFI), >>>>
>>>>four valves per cylinder>>>>>
>>>, a one-piece cast >>>>
>>>>camshaft>>>>>
>>> and a cast aluminum >>>>
>>>>intake manifold>>>>>
>>>. The MZ family is a lightweight V6 engine of an all-aluminum design, using lighter weight parts than the heavier duty VZ block engines in an effort to lower production costs, decrease engine weight, and decrease reciprocating weight without sacrificing reliability. Toyota sought to enhance the drivability pattern of the engine (over the 3VZ) at exactly 3000 rpm, since that was the typical engine speed for motors cruising on the highway. The result was less cylinder distortion coupled with the decreased weight of rotating assemblies, smoother operation at that engine speed, and increased engine efficiency.>>>>
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>>>They feature cast aluminum pistons with an anti-friction resin coating (moly) and valve depressions that decrease the chance of valve-to-piston interference in case of timing belt failure on motors without VVT-i. They also use steel rings, smaller-diameter shot-peened rods, and a forged steel >>>>
>>>>crankshaft>>>>>
>>>.>>>>
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>>>This engine has been phased out in most markets, replaced by variants of the new >>>>
>>>>GR>>>>>
>>> series.
1MZ-FE
The 1MZ-FE is a 3.0 L (2994 cc) engine. Bore is 87.5 mm and stroke is 83 mm. Output is 168190 hp @ 52005400 rpm with 183193 lb·ft of torque at 4400 rpm. Horsepower ratings dropped after the Society of Automotive Engineers implemented a new power measurement system for vehicle engines, Toyota engines rated on 87 octane dropped the most, compared to the same engines used by Lexus rated on 91 octane. It has bucket tappets and was designed for good fuel economy without an overall performance trade-off.
The 1MZ-FE was on Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 1996.
Applications:
· 19942003 Toyota Camry (V6)
· 19942003 Lexus ES 300 & Toyota Windom (Japanese domestic market)
· 19952004 Toyota Avalon & 2000 Toyota Pronard (Avalon for Japanese domestic market)
· 19972003 Lexus RX 300
· Toyota Harrier (non-US markets)
· 19982000 Toyota Sienna
· 19992003 Toyota Solara (V6)
· 2000 Toyota Estima (Japanese domestic market)
Toyota Racing Development offered a bolt-on TRD supercharger kit for the 19972000 Camry, 19982000 Sienna and 19992000 Solara. Power output was bumped to 242 hp and 242 ft·lbf of torque.
The 1MZ-FE with VVT-i is used in the Avalon, Highlander, Sienna and Camry. Output is 210 hp (156 kW) at 5800 rpm with 222 ft·lbf (328 N·m) of torque at 4400 rpm. Early versions of the VVT-i 1MZ used a dual throttle body, cast aluminum intake manifold, and EGR block off plates on the exhaust manifolds. Later versions used an ABS plastic intake manifold to further weight reduction and decrease cost. These versions may also have drive-by-wire/electronic throttle control.
Applications:
· 19992003 Lexus RX 300 (US market)
· 19992003 Lexus ES 300
· 20002004 Toyota Avalon
· 20012003 Toyota Highlander/Kluger
· 20012003 Toyota Sienna
· 2002 Toyota Alphard (Japanese domestic market)
· 20032006 Toyota Camry (V6)
>>Back to Rocket:
>>All that really made me want to go with the 1MZ but the oil gelling issues have given me reason to be concerned. It's been hard to wade through all the info on the matter because there is so much of it and it's hard to tell who is telling the truth. There are guys on the camry and sienna forums that swear up and down that they changed the oil more frequently than Toyota specifies and they still got sludge. Here is a list of the V6 vehicles recalled for the oil gelling issue:
· Toyota Camry V6 1997-2002
· Toyota Solara V6 1999-2002
· Toyota Sienna V6 1998-2002
· Toyota Avalon V6 1997-2002
· Toyota Highlander V6 2001-2002
· Lexus ES300 1997-2002
· Lexus RX300 1999-2002
What's interesting is that the 5S-FE was recalled to. I deleted those from the list just because I was only keeping information about the V6 engines but the 98-99 celica was part of the recall.>>>>
thanks ill look into these more as some as I can narrow down what to look for
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Your list doesn't have the early model 1MZ on it, so you can always go with a 94-96 1MZ.
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QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 14, 2011 - 12:45 AM)
>Your list doesn't have the early model 1MZ on it, so you can always go with a 94-96 1MZ.
what did it come in
I've read your thread but can't remember
( your an stephen_lee made me want a v6 swap lol )
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Camry and es300. Apparently they are not prone to sludge.
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haha that's the year range the junk yards been looking for
so I guess I need a motor from like a 91-93 camry/es300
oops well that might ne what I end up with idont know yet ill see if they find any thing
I told them 91-95I v6 so ill have to wait an se
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ok the junk yard has a complete swap (motor no trans) from a 93 so that should be a 3vzfe2 correct
looked it up just double checkin with you guys
edit I shouldn't say anything on here before noon since im barely awake till then since my awnser to the year was in the first post duh
This post has been edited by kurt95gt: Dec 14, 2011 - 10:23 AM
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Ok talked to the junk yard again they have still in the car fresh at the yard just got it in yesterday right after I talked to him (im sure that a sign this was ment to be ) so ill even be able to hear it run! so
so im not doin tobad price wise yet
400 for motor an wiring an ecu
100 on tires
Goin to go today an price new a tune up an a fly wheel
an go from there
thanks for your guys help
celicast95 how did your harness cost to get done the guy on your other thread
ill have around 350that left after engine an hoist so if I can I might get that done asap so I don't have worry about it later on
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My harness was done by MR220V on MR2.com and MR2OC.com for just a bit over $400.
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ok ill keep that in mind thank you
ill try to get in touch with him on that forum if my phone will let me
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wtf is the deal with a flywheel for this motor can find one anywhere an no parts store can get one
can I reuse the 5s flywheel if I bor out the center like celicast95 did to fit on his 1mz ?
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I didn't bore anything out. I bought a Fidanza unit for a Solara V6 and bolted it on.
And then for it to bolt up properly to the transmission (using the S54) you will need a clutch disk with the same contact surface as the Solara Flywheel. My solution was a Stage 2 Kevlar clutch kit from South Bend Clutch for a MR2 turbo that had been custom splined for the S54.
A $700 solution.
Or you can get an OEM flywheel from a 2000 Camry V6 on the cheap from car-part.com and run a standard Celica GT clutch kit. You'll have less contact surface to the flywheel and it may slip, but it can be done that way. I don't recommend it though.
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ok I thought I read someone modded the s54 flywheel to fit
oh well I figure something out
was the clutch kit itself 700?
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No, the clutch was $340, and the Flywheel was $300 something.
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has anyone tryed a s54 flywheel to see how far off it is
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Im picking up 3vz/e53 Saturday
500 for pair
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QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 15, 2011 - 9:00 AM)
>Im picking up 3vz/e53 Saturday
500 for pair
WOOT.
make it happen!
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
yea
only now got some bad news idk if im getting it since now they want my old motor
an I wanna keep my old one till I kno this v6 will run fine
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found another 3vz for 550 they pull it an I dont have to fork over my motor to get it
so looking at it this Saturday an if all is good I should have it within a week
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ok this is probably a stupid question but do I need to completely rebuild the motor since it has 2almost 200000 miles on it or could I do a light rebuild for now as long as the compression checks out ok
an the do a full complete tear down an rebuild before I try to turbo
been told they are a tough motor so not sure what to do I've heard just change timing belt an waterpump an new head gaskets an it'll be good for another 100000 but just want more opinions
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im droppin mine in at 270xxx miles w/o a rebuild. it droe STRONG
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Better safe than sorry. I'd at least replace plugs, wires, dizzy, gaskets, water and oil pumps, thermostat, and timing belt.
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I plan on basically everything richee3 said but I guess if you can boost without a problem at 270the I should be fine at 200the stock
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Tear the motor down and check the bores for damage. If no damage then put it back together with all new gaskets. If the bores are showing vertical wear then you should have it sent to a machine shop.
I understand you're wanting to do this on a budget, but buying a mystery high mileage motor and assuming it's fine seems crazy to me.
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yea im gonna atleast drop the oilman an check under the valve covers but ill get to see it run an I beleave the car can still move too so it wont be a complete mystery lol but I do get what your saying
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I'm not turboing this motor. Im just getting it in and running. i can find a cheap bare 3vz to rebuild for turbo later.
plus i drove my 3vz for a few thousand miles so i know its condition
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
ahh ok well depending on how it seems to run I may drop it in for the simmer an rebuild over next winter
I reaffirmed little more again online last night why couldn't I run a 3sgte flywheel and a s54 clutch disc like people do with a 3sflywheel swap using a s54 the way everything read a 3s2 flywheel will bolt on the 3vz
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so went to look at what I thought was going to be a 932 es300 with a 3vz but it ended up being a 96tree es300 with a 1mz
so guess my swap plans changed
since I now own a 1mz
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