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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 7, 2011 - 7:42 PM)

>its like the frs, it basically lost its toyota roots once they put the Subaru engine in it. And yes the front sub frame is completely altered.
he should of put a gt4 front end on that thing, also would helped more flow to the intercooler
When a car is modified beyond actually being that car anymore is subjective and varies from person to person. But, lets be honest here. The FR-S lost its Toyota roots when it produced more than 130 hp and was designed to be a fun driver's car. Over the course of the past 10-15 years, Toyota stopped building cars and has begun building appliances. Its a hard pill to swallow, but its the truth. Now they are hoping that they can find something that will rekindle the passion of driving that they have lost oh so many years ago and hope to get some drivers back into Toyotas.
With the FR-S, they're re-entering a market that they left years ago and it has changed markedly since then. They're no longer competing with civics, preludes, proteges, 240zxs, and eclipses. They're now fighting with miatas, mustangs, genesis, and 370Zs. They're trying to elbow their way back in and using everything that they can at their disposal as a wedge. So what if the Subaru boxer engine isn't a 2jz, it provides excellent power in a smaller package, providing a much lower center of gravity. I am personally, very excited that they are open enough to not stubbornly hold to old traditions, but instead use the best of what is available to them. I mean, their racing heritage isn't exactly something that you can proudly hang your hat on.
EDIT: Sorry, that came off as pretty confrontational and will likely derail the discussion. I love the work he put into the car and its awesome to see. In short, you can't create a 7 second car without completely gutting the car, no matter what car it is to begin with. I think he actually did an amazing job of keeping it as much of a celica as he did.
This post has been edited by jimmykay: Sep 8, 2011 - 9:48 AM