Update.
Tonight I installed the front coilovers, driverside JDM fender, and reinserted the driveshafts so the front hub washer wouldn't crush under the pressure. The I reattached the GTFOUR hood, put the wheels back on, and pushed it out of the garage onto the driveway where it now sits under a car cover...
Didn't reinstall the newly painted front calipers... don't have a brake system right now anyways, so I figured, "Why Bother...?"
Here are some shatty update pics for yall... new 3rd Gen 3SGE comes tomorrow morning! YAY!
A height that Jon would be proud of...
- I actually had troubles getting my 4" floor jack out from underneath the car... :S
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new exhaust with the swap?
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QUOTE (NYp8tBaller07 @ Oct 30, 2011 - 7:35 PM)
>new exhaust with the swap?
Yeah I don't think I have a choice in the matter... I haven't had a lot of time since the engine was brought home to look at the downpipe, but I don't think it'll match up to the 5S's piping...
yay for me!
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what size are you thinking of and will we be seeing a tilted can :-D
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You can use stock piping. I did with my BEAMS. But the 5S uses 2" piping and the 3S uses 2.25", so it would be better to upgrade.
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QUOTE (NYp8tBaller07 @ Oct 30, 2011 - 8:34 PM)
>what size are you thinking of and will we be seeing a tilted can :-D
Thinking about uping the piping diameter to 2.25", tossing a resonator on the line and keeping the piping as straight as possible, under the rear axels and "tilting the can", yes.
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Oct 31, 2011 - 10:39 AM)
>You can use stock piping.
Don't tell my wife that! I was hoping to redo the entire pipe set up...
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QUOTE (KAOS @ Oct 29, 2011 - 12:43 AM)
>Update.
Tonight I installed the front coilovers, driverside JDM fender, and reinserted the driveshafts so the front hub washer wouldn't crush under the pressure. The I reattached the GTFOUR hood, put the wheels back on, and pushed it out of the garage onto the driveway where it now sits under a car cover...
Didn't reinstall the newly painted front calipers... don't have a brake system right now anyways, so I figured, "Why Bother...?"
Here are some shatty update pics for yall... new 3rd Gen 3SGE comes tomorrow morning! YAY!
Is that a c-one front bumper I see? By golly I think it is. Should be a worthing something later on down the years since there is no more c-one
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QUOTE (Lil-Joe101 @ Oct 31, 2011 - 11:32 AM)
>Is that a c-one front bumper I see? By golly I think it is. Should be a worthing something later on down the years since there is no more c-one
LOL - yeah - its made for the ST202-204 chassis... so my front end will look like your front end (the hood to bumper gap).
I don't think its genuine C-One tho - I can't find the stamp on the inside of the bumper, but I didn't look that hard either. I did fit it to the front end when I first got it and the fitment was great, so very little body work will be needed. (I do plan on modifying the vents on it).
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Very nice. Ive heard from a few people that the hood gap is actually quite functional when it comes to cooling the engine bay. As the air is pushed in thru the gap it also pushes the hot out from the top cowl and the two rears. But the gap can be an eye sore to a lot of folks too, lol
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QUOTE (Lil-Joe101 @ Oct 31, 2011 - 11:42 AM)
>Very nice. Ive heard from a few people that the hood gap is actually quite functional when it comes to cooling the engine bay. As the air is pushed in thru the gap it also pushes the hot out from the top cowl and the two rears. But the gap can be an eye sore to a lot of folks too, lol
I could see that... the gap looks sexy on some cars, but the bumper already has that vent right there... so as far as adding function for airflow; I don't think that gap is going to be sticking around on mine.
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I don't mind the gap really.
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Oct 31, 2011 - 11:49 AM)
>I don't mind the gap really.
Exactly what I meant when I said the gap looks sexay on some cars..
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Ehh that gap is way to obvious to me.
You can reuse the stock exhaust however you'll have to put the stock manifold back on versus using the header that comes on the 3sge. I end taking the midpipe and modifying it to mate up with the 3sge header.
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^^ Exactly what I did. I had a reducer mated to the BEAMS b pipe so the car isn't obnoxious. Wifey is only half the reason I kept the factory GT exhaust. Neither one of us appreciates a loud car. Overall, the exhaust only cost me $30 as opposed to what it could have cost to have it all replaced. But you know 2" piping is going to hold the 3S back.
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Oct 31, 2011 - 11:49 AM)
>I don't mind the gap really.
Fall into the "GAP" son, lol
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I had a surprisingly productive weekend.
Sold the 5S engine & wrapped headers; bought my own Engine Crane & Engine stand and assembled them both.
Cleared out a bit of space in the garage to work, and now its time to mount the 3SGE to the stand and get to work.
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That's part of the egr system but that's not 96+, it's early 90s.
No 6 gen has a connector like that, that's 5th gen.
Probably a repair/replacement part for something that broke. I wouldn't even worry about it.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Oh ok. So maybe it came from the guy I bought it from. He had a 5th gen he was going to swap this engine into. Probably a spare part of his that got tossed into the pile.
Phew. Thanks Dustin!
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yeah looks foriegn/old to me aswell
good photos though so you can see the part number
89570-20230
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engine looks good btw, did you manage to get the LHD harness?
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No not yet... but here's what I'm thinking:
I have a POS harness that has been un-loomed (lets call it that for lack of better terminology at this point), and I've just purchased a mint one from 3WayStunna (so you won't have to keep an eye out for me anymore Rusty) - I'll just extend the loom myself... or pull a Dustin and make a new hole in the firewall.
... I haven't really decided yet, but I have options.
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New harness came in the mail today - finally, Canada Customs had it for about a week.
3WayStunna - you're a life saver dude! Thanks for the hook up!
Side by side: (see the mess I had to deal with, ugh)
Fusebox Included:
New ECU:
Can anyone tell me the differences between these two?
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can't wait to see this done.
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Very 'Mint' harness
89661-17480 ecu is from the MR2
still trying to figure out where the other one comes from
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Mar 15, 2012 - 12:45 AM)
>Very 'Mint' harness
89661-17480 ecu is from the MR2
still trying to figure out where the other one comes from
Thanks! So... would that MR2 ECU have worked!?
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Got some more work done last night - removed the BENT tensioner from the Timing belt assembly - must've gotten bent in transport.
Started with the Intake Manifold and the Throttle Body:
Not sure what this is, but I figured I would document it anyways:
IM off:
This was quite the juggling act to get this IM off... had to un fasten the TB first, then remove the engine hook; only then would the IM come off without a fuss... interesting set up this 3SGE is... 
Gasket appears to be in decent shape - but there was a bit of oil on it, is that norm?:
I also unbolted the fuel lines from the rail before removing the IM - I just re inserted the banjo bolt so I don't lose it. 
Now to finish with that old nasty wire harness...:
Now for the driveshaft pulley (or harmonic balancer??):
Also, here's a decent shot of the bent tensioner pulley bracket - see how close it is to the exhaust cam gear? Thats not good... it was actually a tight squeeze to remove it. I felt the cam gear afterwards and there seems to have been a bit of scoring/marking... but I could be imagining things too.
It looks pretty beat up... maybe some of it was from me :???: - I swear I was gentle:
Here's where I left off last night before packing it in:
So far the engine has been a dream to work with - no signs of leaking, the block doesn't have any cracks that I can see, and aside from the bent tensioner bracket & the MR2 ECU, I haven't seen anything visually alarming...
Hopefully tonight I can drain the oil, remove the valve cover, the distributor, and the water pump.
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Lookin good man keep it up
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great work, wish i could do that!
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