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Topic #78238 47 posts Started by 97Supra
raise the idle with that resistor guys. the idle is a factory spec 650-700 rpm. i induced a vac leak before to raise the idle (pulled that vac line of the top of the TB, closest to the front of the engine) it raised the idle...then the ecu "learned" and dropped it back down to 650ish when i plugged the line back in it dropped to 400 or so... then eventually raised back up to 650-700.. that resistor seems a permanent fix. 1 month so far

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you can't just change the throttle stop screw, you also have to recalibrate the TPS when you adjust it! Also, yes change the front and passenger side motor mounts to start with.

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QUOTE (97Supra @ Mar 17, 2011 - 9:15 AM) *
>If I figure it out I'll be sure to post it up because this is a pretty annoying issue, having to daily drive a car that literally is shaking itself to pieces is not something I can settle for. I put it in neutral also, but it still shakes just not as bad.

dude i really think its your flywheel it may have came lose or lost some blots out of it your egr would make your car shake like hell if its bad but u said u changed it tho check your fly or check your harmonic balancer you might have a lose rod to i think your flywheel came lose tho my lil brother does it all the time he breaks the blots and the car shakes like hell
my car shakes like hell as well, today for some odd reason it stopped for about a min, once it gets to 900rpms its rough, so i throw it in neutral and rev it to 2000 rpms and it is fine, but like clownprob said clean your throttle body, someone recommended that to me.
if theres a bottom end problem (balance, rod) it would get worse as RPMs rise.

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
i still haven't found the issue.. but that shiny new alternator they sold me at advance auto parts failed already its grinding inside.. going back today to exchange it... man i wanna junk this car but i just gave up my truck and sold my Mr2 so I'm stuck with this thing until I save up enough for something else.
well not to jack your thread. been searching for it but how do you change the idle i know its a screw on the throttle, any pics
The hard idle set screw is what the throttle pulley rests on, (half moon that the cable is attached to) comes to a stop at one end of the screw. There is a small nut to loosen it up and it is a small metric alan key which turns it if i recall correctly. The throttle position sensor will be out of sync if you change the hard idle.
Im following along mine just got back on the road and is now vibrating at idle a little once in awhile
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QUOTE (csscza @ Apr 19, 2011 - 3:23 PM) *
>Im following along mine just got back on the road and is now vibrating at idle a little once in awhile

harmonic balancer
having a similar issue.. haven't really done much yet cuz not sure where to start... my car starts fine.. idles around 1200 or so until it slowly drops to the 700 or so normal.. but then it will start dipping VERY low on RPM and almost die (like 200-300rpm).. but will keep running.. very rough idle... then after i drive for a few miles, its still running a little rough, but is back to idling around 600-700... any ideas??


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This post has been edited by Jaws4God: Sep 28, 2011 - 2:22 PM

~Daniel~ No Longer Celica Owner.. moved on to a 03 WRX-EJ207
on the rear of the throttle body theres a small plate thats mounted/shaped similar to the TPS.

loosen it and rotate it. it will adjust the minimum opening angle of the idle control valve

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Sep 28, 2011 - 8:59 PM) *
>on the rear of the throttle body theres a small plate thats mounted/shaped similar to the TPS.

loosen it and rotate it. it will adjust the minimum opening angle of the idle control valve


thanks! i found that and adjusted it so now it idle's around 1000... so hopefully if it tries jumping down low on RPMs, it will still have plenty of RPMs left..

however it is still running a little rough.. like i have a miss-fire.. so not sure if its still a vacuum leak.. or spark plug.. spark plug wire... etc... not sure what how to test next...

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QUOTE (Jaws4God @ Sep 28, 2011 - 8:19 PM) *
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Sep 28, 2011 - 8:59 PM) *
>on the rear of the throttle body theres a small plate thats mounted/shaped similar to the TPS.

loosen it and rotate it. it will adjust the minimum opening angle of the idle control valve


thanks! i found that and adjusted it so now it idle's around 1000... so hopefully if it tries jumping down low on RPMs, it will still have plenty of RPMs left..

however it is still running a little rough.. like i have a miss-fire.. so not sure if its still a vacuum leak.. or spark plug.. spark plug wire... etc... not sure what how to test next...



i would do a tune up if it feels like its misfiring

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
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QUOTE (97Supra @ Apr 7, 2011 - 4:55 PM) *
>The hard idle set screw is what the throttle pulley rests on, (half moon that the cable is attached to) comes to a stop at one end of the screw. There is a small nut to loosen it up and it is a small metric alan key which turns it if i recall correctly. The throttle position sensor will be out of sync if you change the hard idle.

You might want to switch those vaccuum lines on a/c vsv located on the wall.
pull all four spark plugs(keep them in order) and closely compare the colors to see if one is rich or lean. Also try a cylinder balance test. With the engine running use a rag to pull the spark plug wires one at a time, the rpms should drop and the engine will run rough. If one cylinder has less of an effect on the idle speed when you pull the plug wire than that is your weak cylinder.
A compression check wouldnt be a bad idea either, they have a loaner one at autozone