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Topic #78088 72 posts Started by malpaso
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QUOTE (Shigexile @ Mar 3, 2011 - 1:34 AM) *
>splendid thumbsup.gif

Thanks a lot. From someone who put a lot of effort to the car as you it is the real compliment.

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QUOTE (Urputus @ Mar 3, 2011 - 12:28 AM) *
>I believe that no other problem occurs and that you will have your celi soon.
Can't wait to see your car again wink.gif

You bet you see it first wink.gif

Again small update:
wideband O2 sensor flange is ready smile.gif



And also OEM instructions how to maintain JDM car smile.gif.



I know it is more for fun because now the engine will have different specs but it is so cute to see those instructions there and interesting to compare differences between markets when to change what, etc... only what I do not understand is what is that LLC???

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Lookin good!

LLC = Toyota Long Life Coolant (Aka the red stuff!), Not sure if they're saying 2 months or 2 years though

5000km for oil, 10,000km for oil filter, not sure on the others. 100,000 will be cambelt

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 3, 2011 - 10:21 AM) *
>Lookin good!

LLC = Toyota Long Life Coolant (Aka the red stuff!), Not sure if they're saying 2 months or 2 years though

5000km for oil, 10,000km for oil filter, not sure on the others. 100,000 will be cambelt


AAAAAH! Coolant! It is in years (年:)) and also it is mention difference between first change and other changes. The rest is absolutely clear (oil, oil filter, cam belt even also other things like clearances or idle rpm smile.gif) .

Only note about aircon filters is funny - "clean every 12months and replace after 50K kms". Manual A/C in European/US models has no filters to replace or clean as I know smile.gif ...so this automatic one seems must have something I need to find and check from time to time wink.gif.

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Since still waiting for batch of sandblasted and painted parts downpipe and exhaust was prepared (downpipe support bracket included). Also sensors are in place now...






No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
That's great! Another part from the schedule completed!
So the rest of the exhaust will fit without further modifications now, right?
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QUOTE (Urputus @ Mar 6, 2011 - 12:50 PM) *
>That's great! Another part from the schedule completed!
So the rest of the exhaust will fit without further modifications now, right?

Correct... exhaust is fully prepared smile.gif

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Looking good Martin, keep up the good work. I'll need to return and visit you again to see the finished version. thumbsup.gif

Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJCurrent: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor
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QUOTE (snapshotgt @ Mar 8, 2011 - 3:21 AM) *
>Looking good Martin, keep up the good work. I'll need to return and visit you again to see the finished version. thumbsup.gif

Thank you Collin. I really bet it will be different car than you remember smile.gif

Now. Let's look at the "to do list":

>>- install all refurbed parts back (in next 5days hopefully happen)

- make and install cold intake box
- install trans shaft, rear diff and supports
- finally install exhaust

and... at last switch the engine on and make running for 30 minutes.

- very first map check to avoid any detonation with stock PFC map
- check wiring and Datalogit logs (especially O2 sensor)
- check everything (leaks/levels/pressures etc...)
- had a little trip to control boost controller is working

That would be the moment I will travel to Italy and to follow with:

- 1000 kms running in
- change filters and oil
- Dyno tune
- recheck everything (leaks/levels/pressures etc...)

Get her home smile.gif>
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So bit shorter, but still a lot of things to do...

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Another batch of parts sandblasted and painted smile.gif



So only rear cross-member is missing now to continue smile.gif

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
When you're done, I hope you have a picture of the underbody of your car on a lift. I want to see it all.

taking too long to mod since '09June '12 COTM'95 AT200
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QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Mar 9, 2011 - 3:41 PM) *
>When you're done, I hope you have a picture of the underbody of your car on a lift. I want to see it all.

I will have it for sure when installing this smile.gif but I'm afraid you will not see anything special since only one color is used for under-body parts = black. Sure I had vision if something like below smile.gif



But my mechanic had different opinion and just black paint around wink.gif

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Hey, straight black is still a lot sexier than dirty/rusty wink.gif

taking too long to mod since '09June '12 COTM'95 AT200
how cool it would be to have the white sumframe and be able to keep it clean would be an absolute mission!!!

_______________May COTM 2011_______________
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QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Mar 11, 2011 - 3:08 PM) *
>Hey, straight black is still a lot sexier than dirty/rusty wink.gif

agree to the letter... that rust really scared me frown.gif

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QUOTE (TRDGT4 @ Mar 12, 2011 - 12:58 AM) *
>how cool it would be to have the white sumframe and be able to keep it clean would be an absolute mission!!!

that is true... at least my mechanic has the sense of reality smile.gif

Update for today (again small one)

The last part returned from sandblaster and now is being painted (in black of course smile.gif)



I have also received note about some DCW parts for interior. I know... nothing I can not drive w/o but I like to keep everything clean wink.gif. One of those beauties below already lie in the box at home woot.gif



Unfortunately I'm not that lucky with custom shifter pod that should look something like below (draft photo-shop picture) frown.gif



Should be ready in two days + a week shipping but now it is month I asked for it and still not delivered... Hope I will receive it soon enough.

This post has been edited by malpaso: Mar 17, 2011 - 4:04 AM

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Al last I can share with big update after loooong days smile.gif

Tertiary target = suspension upgrade
This is something that was not originally planned at all. However since underbody was stripped once and suspension was last and only thing I have not touched yet I have decided for suspension upgrade. Let’s do all things right. I know it hurts (more money + another delay for first run) but suspension counts as well. So fill front engine support, rear diff rear support, rear diff front support with urethane, change endlinks, swaybar, and to install coilovers…



Unfortunately BC coilovers are not plug-and-play for ST205. Some welding was needed…



...however in hands of good mechanic result is perfect tongue.gif.



At least they are for this price good enough to deal with that smile.gif. Now the list is complete. For last two years everything on the car is after upgrade:

- Complete body paint
- Brakes
- Cooling
- Engine
- Underbody
- Suspension…


Maybe interior should get some facelift… wink.gif. But let’s not be that fast. Now let’s make new engine running at last!

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
I can't wait to see this thing in action!!

taking too long to mod since '09June '12 COTM'95 AT200
Wow, big changes. I expect this thing to handle like it's on rails.

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
I'm like on needles last few days because it is really close... Just looking at the latest pics I have feeling my next part replaced is exhaust kindasad.gif



However at last on all four again! I almost hear it running biggrin.gif


No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
looking great man keep up the good work!!!

_______________May COTM 2011_______________
How many mm of tube did they leave on the stock strut?

On mine they left about 15mm and at the lowest setting mines still alot higher than yours infront...

What size tyres you running?

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
Good job Martin ! thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE (TRDGT4 @ Mar 24, 2011 - 10:01 AM) *
>looking great man keep up the good work!!!

Thanks a lot! Words like this counts especially form someone who do not take his car as just "consumable part". thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 24, 2011 - 11:57 AM) *
>How many mm of tube did they leave on the stock strut?

On mine they left about 15mm and at the lowest setting mines still alot higher than yours infront...

What size tyres you running?

Honestly I do not have any details about cutting+welding. Job done by guy who did that already for his GT-four so just followed smile.gif. I run 205/50 R16 tires (instead stock 215/50 R16) so diameter of wheel is for 5 mm less.

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QUOTE (makis @ Mar 24, 2011 - 5:44 PM) *
>Good job Martin ! thumbsup.gif

Thanks makis. Now after almost 3/4 a year I pray only for successful quick end smile.gif

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
EPIC!!
great work by you and your mechanic, martin, cant wait to see it all finished up!

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
^ I agree with that. biggrin.gif

Out of curiousity, why are you running 5 MM less?

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Mar 25, 2011 - 10:28 AM

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 25, 2011 - 1:35 PM) *
>EPIC!!
great work by you and your mechanic, martin, cant wait to see it all finished up!

Thank you Manny. My role is more "money-box" or "manager" that mechanic... According to Wolf my knowledge of rebuilding the engine is joky smile.gif.

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 25, 2011 - 4:27 PM) *
>...Out of curiousity, why are you running 5 MM less?

it is no purpose... it is just a consequence smile.gif I have wanted narrow tires (since ST205 is like tank w/o a chance to spin as you remember smile.gif) to lower price (the are cheper because they are more common) and lower consumption (less rolling-resistance force). So no point to have 5mm less diametr of wheel. It is just consequense of using more narrow tire on the same size of wheel (215/50 R16 vs 205/50 R16).

Last news for today... here is one picture from mapping smile.gif so...

>>IT IS ALIVE!!!>> biggrin.gif


No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
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QUOTE (malpaso @ Mar 26, 2011 - 1:35 AM) *
>it is no purpose... it is just a consequence smile.gif I have wanted narrow tires (since ST205 is like tank w/o a chance to spin as you remember smile.gif) to lower price (the are cheper because they are more common) and lower consumption (less rolling-resistance force). So no point to have 5mm less diametr of wheel. It is just consequense of using more narrow tire on the same size of wheel (215/50 R16 vs 205/50 R16).


Ah, makes sense.

Funny that you say that though, seeing as you were down on power before the rebuild...I bet you'll notice the difference now! biggrin.gif

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
It's good to know that the project is approaching its finish.

I hope the engine will run soon, so that I can see your car live wink.gif
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QUOTE (malpaso @ Mar 26, 2011 - 6:35 PM) *
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 25, 2011 - 4:27 PM) *
>...Out of curiousity, why are you running 5 MM less?

it is no purpose... it is just a consequence smile.gif I have wanted narrow tires (since ST205 is like tank w/o a chance to spin as you remember smile.gif) to lower price (the are cheper because they are more common) and lower consumption (less rolling-resistance force). So no point to have 5mm less diametr of wheel. It is just consequense of using more narrow tire on the same size of wheel (215/50 R16 vs 205/50 R16).


In addition, And it may be different over there in Europe but here in New Zealand since Bridgestone dropped the GIII range in favour of Potenza, they no longer produced a 215/50R16 and the only tyre available in that size that I've found doesn't have a high enough load rating for the GT4 weight. Unfortunately this only leaves is with options 205/50/16, 215/55/16, 225/50/16 and 225/45/16 the only choice is to go up to a 17" wheel to get 215/45/17 which is a near perfect match in rolling diameter to the stock 215/50/16, but that also cripples us because its very difficult to find 5x100 wheels with the right offset to clear the gt4 brakes and clear the springs of the lowered suspension (the lower strut height increases the camber negativity as the pivot point cant change when theres no adjusting nut on the rear swingarm.) In my case I'm running 225/50ZR16 with 15mm spacers at the rear so the tyres dont rub the springs.

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 27, 2011 - 4:04 AM) *
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Funny that you say that though, seeing as you were down on power before the rebuild...I bet you'll notice the difference now! biggrin.gif

My mechanic said the same thing smile.gif.

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QUOTE (Urputus @ Mar 27, 2011 - 12:49 PM) *
>It's good to know that the project is approaching its finish.

I hope the engine will run soon, so that I can see your car live wink.gif

IT IS ALIVE means engine is already running wink.gif (see vid on youtube)

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QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 28, 2011 - 2:48 AM) *
>In addition, And it may be different over there in Europe but here in New Zealand since Bridgestone dropped the GIII range in favour of Potenza, they no longer produced a 215/50R16 and the only tyre available in that size that I've found doesn't have a high enough load rating for the GT4 weight. Unfortunately this only leaves is with options 205/50/16, 215/55/16, 225/50/16 and 225/45/16 the only choice is to go up to a 17" wheel to get 215/45/17 which is a near perfect match in rolling diameter to the stock 215/50/16, but that also cripples us because its very difficult to find 5x100 wheels with the right offset to clear the gt4 brakes and clear the springs of the lowered suspension (the lower strut height increases the camber negativity as the pivot point cant change when theres no adjusting nut on the rear swingarm.) In my case I'm running 225/50ZR16 with 15mm spacers at the rear so the tyres dont rub the springs.

Wow... that is unbelievable. I would not be able to run on 17" (with Superstrut Suspension) on CZ roads at all. They are so horrible I would be like shake after few miles frown.gif.

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
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QUOTE (malpaso @ Mar 26, 2011 - 1:35 AM) *
>>>IT IS ALIVE!!!>> biggrin.gif



Aaaaah, GREAT!
I'm packing my suitcases to Italy biggrin.gif