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The SS-II used 205/50R16 and the SS-III used 215/50R16 factory fitment (or equiv rolling diameter)

So whichever car your gearbox speed sender came from (either the SS-II beams clip from the original swap or the SS-III LSD transmission swap) your speedo will be over-reading what you're actually doing either a little bit or alot. If you are using the speedo sender from the original USDM car and are running the same rolling diameter then it will be closer to accurate.

However with your current tyre size I have a feeling you will be going about ~3mph slower than reported per 60mph.

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
the gt that I know own used to be a automatic transmission. I'm pretty sure that all beams came with the 5 spoke white 15x7 rims whether it was SS-II or SS-III. The transmission I currently have which has a MR-S Helical LSD inside is from a USDM S54. The transmission that the beams came with and the current s54 helical lsd that i have on my car right now should have the same speed sensor. I don't ever remember seeing any beams SS-III fitted with the 6 spoke 16 inch wheels.


ahaha I think I figured it out!!! hehe thanks to another beams member. check out this link, its from last section down from november 2005 and down

http://billzilla.org/AE863SGE.htm

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 1, 2011 - 8:12 PM

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exhaust pics! it sounds alright I have a 18 inch glass pack resonator. Its more performance than sound; But I'll have the exhaust system I want by the end of this year.





This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 6, 2013 - 2:59 PM

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the straw technique might work for you, but i wonder how much it's restricting airflow. Try cleaning your MAF, IAC, throttle body/valve, make sure everything is plugged in/no vacuum leak. OR re-positioning of the MAF sensor. I think I missed it but all this happened after installing an after-market intake system with a cone filter?
80 MPH in 5th gear should just be around 4500rpm, maybe less i think. I haven't been on a motorway in a while.

The dreaded MAF!!!

I hope you get this sorted, torque in the beams is grand i find. Not turbo like or anything but 5th gear overtaking feels nice biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (TRD-Corolla @ May 8, 2011 - 5:00 AM) *
>the straw technique might work for you, but i wonder how much it's restricting airflow. Try cleaning your MAF, IAC, throttle body/valve, make sure everything is plugged in/no vacuum leak. OR re-positioning of the MAF sensor. I think I missed it but all this happened after installing an after-market intake system with a cone filter?


that pipe was mine and mine was running fine, the ecu might need a reset.

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QUOTE (TRD-Corolla @ May 8, 2011 - 5:00 AM) *
>the straw technique might work for you, but i wonder how much it's restricting airflow. Try cleaning your MAF, IAC, throttle body/valve, make sure everything is plugged in/no vacuum leak. OR re-positioning of the MAF sensor. I think I missed it but all this happened after installing an after-market intake system with a cone filter?


I'll check all the vacuum lines. Today after getting an aligned, it is getting closer and closer to dieing. The car's idle drops to about 500rpm and its getting worse and worse by the day. I'm cleaning that thing next and that could be my solution to my sluggish pedal feel?? In first gear it pulls nicely and my dirty Idle Speed/air Control Valve could also be the reason as to why my rpm gauge is off??? At 116 mph on the speedo, the speed cut limiter cuts off fuel to the engine. All JDM motors cut off at 111mph so I know my speedometer is off! Another thing is that at 105 mph my rpm are at 5,600rpm or something like that, I'll have to get video. RPM are a bit high wouldn't you say??? I know that 4th gear goes to 118mph, but I had to shift into 5th gear before Or else I wouldn't have been able to hit 111mph speed cut limiter in 4th gear. I'm using a usdm s54 speed sensor. maybe I need a new one or just calibrate my speedometer??

I did already reset the ecu and its running much better. On another Note I put in 4 gallons of 100 octane and about 9 gallons of 91 octane. that gave me a mixed octane rating of about/near 94 octane = 100 ron.

Yes Tony-B, torque should be pretty good but I'm finding lag in the throttle. how the hell do you adjust the throttle cable to make it tighter??? I was only able to adjust the cable so that it controls how high my idle is when I have the car in neutral. thanks guys for taking such interest in my thread I appreciate it. I thought my thread was just another thread. Jeez i love 6gc member biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Tony-B @ May 8, 2011 - 6:41 PM) *
>80 MPH in 5th gear should just be around 4500rpm, maybe less i think. I haven't been on a motorway in a while.

The dreaded MAF!!!

I hope you get this sorted, torque in the beams is grand i find. Not turbo like or anything but 5th gear overtaking feels nice biggrin.gif

T


can you get some video you cruising at 80mph in 5th gear and you topping out 3rd gear please!! Since you have all stock/factory installed engine. Mine was done by some tuning shop.

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My speed limiter on both SS-III and GT4 cars was 200kph

Google tells us thats 200 kph = 124.274238 mph

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
Was just on a motorway there on Sunday.

Motorway speed limit is 120Kph, Beams does this in 5th gear at 3,600rpm. To do third gear top outs on most of the roads around me would be suicide, plus, my wife is a fox I dont want to die. The next time i'm on a decent/flat/straight/uncambered road i'll see what i can do.

The throttle cable is tightened the same way you tightened your brakes on your BMX fado fado, I think.

Your exhaust looks like it could be strangling your engine maybe??

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Ya dont forget deluzionz that mine came off an SS-II celica. But ya when i was trying to top out the car i only got to 190km/h on my
Speedometer, which seems quite off dont u think. That is when my fuel cut was turned on. I shud gps my speed next time.

How does my beams cluster read the rpm signal from the engine?

Naw tony b ive got a new 57mm full exhaust system now! So thats def not the problem. If i dont get my stock intake box back
Then im borrowing my friends aem wideband to monitor my air/ fuel ratios

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 6, 2013 - 1:20 PM

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the higher the speed, the less accurate the speedometer becomes.

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QUOTE (Rusty @ May 18, 2011 - 3:01 AM) *
>the higher the speed, the less accurate the speedometer becomes.


yes I know but it being off about 8mph when I'm only going about 100 mph seems way off. Even my stock st wasn't off by that much. oh well it doesn't concern me that much but how do I know that my rpm gauge is correct??

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>>update : swapped out the trunk from previous celica and put on my two post spoiler with replica riser blocks. Is it me or does the spoiler/gt4 make it look super huge. I agree that it flows well with the trd splitters. Even if I were to cut down the riser blocks a few inches I wouldn't be able to see thru my rear view mirror !!! frown.gif>>

>>>>And please tell me what you guys think, my 16 inch rims look quite small don't they. the rims looked better on my previous celica that had no sideskirts or splitters, but with my current GT-4 setup it just makes the 16 inch rims look small right??>>>>







how do you like my primered fender huh ha, one can of paint isn't enough, I ran out of paint kindasad.gif



>>oh and a broken/scratched tail light that came with the car when I bought it mad.gif >>


This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 31, 2011 - 3:41 AM

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Psh, you can still see out the window, just the tops a little cut off, all you gotta do Is duck your head a little haha laugh.gif.

I agree with what you are saying about the wheels, 17's would look nice.

This post has been edited by mak5603: May 31, 2011 - 11:51 AM

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noo I mean I want to cut down my riser blocks down to a smaller size like this in the future after I repaint the car :


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This is a friend of mine from the Netherlands.
These blocks are custom made​​. I think this is slightly better.
I think the wheels look ok, it's just the arch gap throwing you off. A wee bit of drop and a wee bit of spacering and you'll be grand

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Oh, I gotcha. Yeah that would look sweet but for sure block some vision, haha.

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QUOTE (Tony-B @ May 31, 2011 - 2:08 PM) *
>I think the wheels look ok, it's just the arch gap throwing you off. A wee bit of drop and a wee bit of spacering and you'll be grand

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ya but I won't be able to lower the car anymore unless I get some coilovers. I'd rather get polyurethane bushings and sway bar links before that. And buying some larger spacers would cost more money. I currently have 10mm spacers. So i'm at +32 offset, for some reason my rear end on my previous st celica was lower in the rear with the same exact suspension set up???? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE (HectortheRican @ May 31, 2011 - 3:07 PM) *
>Another option is the Eurou style blocks

http://www.kamikaze.com.hk/product.php?id_product=76


naw dude i've been over this before in another post. Euro blocks does not angle the spoiler forward like the oem gt4/ss3 riser blocks do, the angle of the spoiler gives the celica a more aggressive look.

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I never really liked the look of the riser blocks and I don't see the purpose if you're not AWD. I'd say just stick with the perfectly designed 94-95 style spoiler.

Do you really feel a difference in airflow at high speeds?

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leave your riser blocks! keep the gt4 look! i freakin love it! just give it new wheels and a bit lower drop! smile.gif

your car is coming along very well man!
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QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 31, 2011 - 5:53 PM) *
>I never really liked the look of the riser blocks and I don't see the purpose if you're not AWD. I'd say just stick with the perfectly designed 94-95 style spoiler.

Do you really feel a difference in airflow at high speeds?


Ya i was never really fond of thr whole gt4 look unless the car was an actual gt4. I dont think the spoiler serves as a purpose unless the rear roof spoiler was fitted. The spoiler wud look better if my car was all one color no doubt. So for now I just might remove the riser blocks n leave it like that.

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I just had another thought for your lack of power complaint, are you even revving to 7000?

the 9000 rpm tachometer sort of ends around the same place as the 8000rpm tachometer, the numbers are closer together so when your hitting the 7000 according to your dash it may only be around 5800 - 6000rpm.

if you rev it up to the limiter, just see what point on the gauge it bounces at, it should be either 7000rpm or 7200rpm at the cutoff point (can't remember 3SGE, I know 3SGTE is 7200).

the way the UK guys do it is to use/wire in the entire JDM cluster, put an MPH sticker over the KM/H lettering and then use a 1.6 divider speed signal adjuster so that the speedo and odometers tick over in miles, it also raises the speed cut limit from 200KM/H to effectively 200MPH

This post has been edited by delusionz: Jun 1, 2011 - 7:18 PM

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
you can't go wrong with either the gt-four raise blocks or the ss-iii ones, either one looks good IMO. Also, these cars look a lot better with 17"+ rims smile.gif

edited: any updates on that maf?

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This post has been edited by TRD-Corolla: Jun 1, 2011 - 9:50 PM
i'll get some video footage of me topping out 4th gear yes I know I said it. Its a must so you guys know what I'm talking about, I wonder if my 4th and 5th gears are shorter?? 4th gear reaches 108mph on the speedo which was less than my previous ST Celica in the same gear. I'll also rev all the way upp to redline.

I have beams tachometer and the rpm gauge with a speed signal thing that converts it to mph. Not entirely sure on how the guys did that since the car already came that way. Cut off for beams motor is 7,450 rpm.

As far as the MAF resetting the ecu did help with about 10hp. It just such a shame we only get 95 ron as our top best gas here in CA and all other states get 98 ron.... So buying that race fuel to mix with 95 ron is somewhat expensive. I should be getting my original intake back soon from what the guy told me, he just has to do smog with it. I did put a screen door mesh in front of the maf but it still feels the same. I just need my dyno results. No fun either cause I lost my job on friday so I'm trying to figure out where my income will come from.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 11, 2012 - 5:21 PM

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when I do get my stock intake box back what drop in filter would you suggest for under $40??? I used to have the K&N but brand new that costs $55.

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I've got connections. I may be able to hook you up with a K&N for around $40.


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QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Jun 2, 2011 - 12:06 PM) *
>I've got connections. I may be able to hook you up with a K&N for around $40.


I saw one last night for $42 shipped and its still listed on ebay.

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