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Topic #76176 367 posts Started by jcbass7
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QUOTE (95st-celica @ Oct 11, 2010 - 3:51 PM) *
>i installed a "flip out" head unit in my car and never had a problem with the nosie, but seeing that you got that figured out, thats good. Now onto problem 2. I have JL 5" speakers in my doors, and kennwood tweeters. When i installed them the 5" JL's came with crossovers, for the tweeters. Are you using crossovers? do you have any wires bridged anywhere, or spliced into another speaker? I have come to find out that audio wireing, yet simple, can still be complex, and the sound will not be as good/clear if you dont have a very neat, clean set up. Check all your wireing again, i know its a pain in the ass, but there might be somewhere that some solder came off the back of the speaker and it has a loose connection, or the wires are toucing and grounding out, hence no sound. i didnt have tweeters in my car, so i dont know if the stock tweeters come with crossovers, but i would look into that as well. check to see that the crossover is wired up correctly, into the tweeter, into the speaker, and the wires are going in the right slots on crossover. (or an aftermarket AMP if that applys to you.)


I'll have to check into all of this later, but that might help find the problem. Currently the only change from stock on the entire set-up is I removed the two factory amps and installed my aftermarket head unit. (Alpine IDA something)
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 11, 2010 - 2:50 PM) *
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QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 11, 2010 - 3:43 PM) *
>Rewire it all bro - you got the interior half gutted anyway. It's the only way to be sure you are starting with everything working. Put some good quality wire in there and call it a day.

Sounds like a decent idea actually. So if I only have front right, front left, rear right, rear left speaker wires coming out of my head unit, how do I wire in 8 speakers? Can I just wire a few in parallel?

You could but IIRC there is something like a stock passive crossover in or before the doors - I could be wrong tho bro - it's been a minimum 6 years since I had any stock components

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QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 11, 2010 - 4:29 PM) *
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 11, 2010 - 2:50 PM) *
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QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 11, 2010 - 3:43 PM) *
>Rewire it all bro - you got the interior half gutted anyway. It's the only way to be sure you are starting with everything working. Put some good quality wire in there and call it a day.

Sounds like a decent idea actually. So if I only have front right, front left, rear right, rear left speaker wires coming out of my head unit, how do I wire in 8 speakers? Can I just wire a few in parallel?

You could but IIRC there is something like a stock passive crossover in or before the doors - I could be wrong tho bro - it's been a minimum 6 years since I had any stock components



So.. for example I run the front right to the passenger door (duh) and connect to the crossover and from the crossover it hits all three speakers in the door? I know only the basics of car audio, I had to google what a crossover was.. haha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 11, 2010 - 4:12 PM) *
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QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 11, 2010 - 4:29 PM) *
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 11, 2010 - 2:50 PM) *
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QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 11, 2010 - 3:43 PM) *
>Rewire it all bro - you got the interior half gutted anyway. It's the only way to be sure you are starting with everything working. Put some good quality wire in there and call it a day.

Sounds like a decent idea actually. So if I only have front right, front left, rear right, rear left speaker wires coming out of my head unit, how do I wire in 8 speakers? Can I just wire a few in parallel?

You could but IIRC there is something like a stock passive crossover in or before the doors - I could be wrong tho bro - it's been a minimum 6 years since I had any stock components



So.. for example I run the front right to the passenger door (duh) and connect to the crossover and from the crossover it hits all three speakers in the door? I know only the basics of car audio, I had to google what a crossover was.. haha biggrin.gif

Just run it to your door - replace everything along the way but look out for a passive. See if that fixs the fronts. If not keep going [I'd keep going anyway just for the newness].
then repeat with rear speakers.
if none of that fixes it it's the speakers or the H/U

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QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 11, 2010 - 5:26 PM) *
>Just run it to your door - replace everything along the way but look out for a passive. See if that fixs the fronts. If not keep going [I'd keep going anyway just for the newness].
then repeat with rear speakers.
if none of that fixes it it's the speakers or the H/U



Sounds like a plan, next chance I get I'll tackle that. In the mean time I need to install a few other goodies. One of them is in my sig, just gotta repin the cluster for it tomorrow.


Pictures of some TRD goodies on the car will be up tonight.
I had a chance to get some more done on the car this weekend while the weather was nice.

>>Progress:>>
-Finished installing the short shifter (w/ 4th gen celica shift knob)
-Installed aftermarket Alpine head unit
-Removed the cheap aftermarket fog lamps
-Installed the center console cover (the thick fancy one)
-Installed my TSW 17" rims
-Swapped out the rear suspension for TRD springs (didn't have time to do the front yet)

PICS

Interior Stuff


Removing parts from coupe





^still can't decide if I want to put the 404's on the car or get stock skirts...


In progress



Installed on Hatch (rims and rear TRD springs)





Here is what the drop in the front will look like....



She looks like a monster truck right now with the front still sitting on stock springs. I need to roll the rear fenders since she is rubbing a bit. I didn't expect the rubbing since this same set-up on the coupe didn't rub once, and it started right away on the hatch. I looked and noticed their is a small dent that pushed the lip in a bit and is probably the main reason its touching on this car, since it is only that side.

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Oct 11, 2010 - 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 4, 2010 - 2:43 PM) *
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Oct 4, 2010 - 2:55 PM) *
>Oh, I don't know...maybe the GT-FOUR parts and the 3S? Just a random guess, no idea why you'd want to do that though...

Good luck.


Well you've got some of it haha

The 3S is missing the following items (sold them)
-Mass Air Flow Sensor
-CT-26
-Downpipe
-Exhaust Manifold
-IC and piping

I'm undecided if I want to rebuild it (since its half apart right now anyway) and then get new stuff for it, or just go out and buy a 3rd Gen 3S..

Anyone want to convince me in either direction? Saving money would be the priority at this point.



Well considering my other thread about a 2nd gen in a junkyard near me....if you need either the turbo/MAF sensor or IC with piping let me know.....rather have someone buy parts from the engine instead of seeing it junked in a week or two.

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QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Oct 11, 2010 - 11:36 PM) *
>Well considering my other thread about a 2nd gen in a junkyard near me....if you need either the turbo/MAF sensor or IC with piping let me know.....rather have someone buy parts from the engine instead of seeing it junked in a week or two.


thanks for the offer, I'm going to hold off on any 3s stuff at the moment. I've got to decide on what my options are and then plan it all out accordingly.
So I was told the front brakes on the coupe (when i bought it) were from a 7th gen. I took a few pics to see what you guys think. They definitely are a little different, but I wonder if they are an upgrade?

Here are the pics:

Stock



7th Gen??


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QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Oct 13, 2010 - 4:04 AM) *
>404's!!!


I'm leaning towards it... I've got the Euro front lip for the gt-4 bumper. I could do the 404's and then figure something out for the rear... not sure what yet
Well I tried to do a little tonight, but got some done and messed up the rest..

>>Progress:>>
-Installed clear courtesy lenses w/ blue LED's
-Installed aftermarket antenna since I hate the stock one
-Discovered why I had such bad rust behind the rear driver side wheel...
-ATTEMPTED to install my ST205 cluster with TRD speedometer.. epic fail for tonight

first the courtesy lenses...



The antenna..

remove stock..



Aftermarket antenna (until I shave the hole)


and the rust culprit..


the antenna must have been replaced, because the old drain hose was still in there, but the new antenna was put in without the hose being routed out of the void. Therefore the water that dripped in just sat in their and rusted the bottom out.... its pretty bad, but ill fix it..

the rust......




and the fun stuff



I got it all pinned out for a European cluster, but it doesn't work at all. I need to go check it tomorrow. I had the door ajar lights stuck on and none of the gauges would work. I put it in far enough to just test it. I'll attack it again tomorrow when its light out. (maybe i just popped the gauge panel fuse? I couldn't get the gauge lights to come on either)

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Oct 13, 2010 - 8:40 PM
My rust hole is in the same spot! Sh!t now I have to figure out where drain rubber is cause I dont recall seeing it kindasad.gif
yes water fills up in the same spot but mines on the passenger side. I thankfully found the drain plug and have it open at all times so the water runs through whenever I wash my car or it rains

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yea its on the to-do list to fix that spot. I'll shave the rear wiper and antenna when I'm at it, but for now I need to get the ST205 cluster working..

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Oct 14, 2010 - 8:14 AM
i might shave mine too so that it wont rust out again. I have to wait to put my rear splitters on cause one of the mounting holes is right there kindasad.gif
Good luck with the ST205 cluster! Are you wanting to make it a 5SFTE or swap in a 3rd gen? Cuz that boost gauge will be kinda useless laugh.gif

This post has been edited by HectortheRican: Oct 15, 2010 - 2:32 AM

taking too long to mod since '09June '12 COTM'95 AT200
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QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Oct 15, 2010 - 3:31 AM) *
>Good luck with the ST205 cluster! Are you wanting to make it a 5SFTE or swap in a 3rd gen? Cuz that boost gauge will be kinda useless laugh.gif


The boost gauge is kinda useless even if you are turbo'd. I'm going to put in a 3s. I still have one on an engine stand in my basement. Not anytime soon though, maybe in the spring..
Well I checked the fuses and they were all good... so I didn't break one of those while wiring. This means my problem is with my re-pinning of the cluster or with the cluster itself... I'm going to cross reference the USDM harness with where they need to be plugged into the European cluster. (I bought the cluster from England, so I am assuming its a European cluster)

The symptoms I've received so far are.. I plug it in and the only thing that happens is there are two lights that stay on on the left side. Then when I try to turn on the headlights, the rear foglamps? light on the cluster turns on, but none of the gauges glow. None of the gauges move when I rev the engine or anything like that.

Pics of my re-pinned clips:





any thoughts?

https://acrobat.com/#d=nxgMRCtdQxmOSlbtG2Hqpg

^using that to look at USDM side of things (pg 175)

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Oct 15, 2010 - 7:12 AM
Hi guys, following this thread with interest. smile.gif

I've already cleaned out my shifter base - found a couple of coins plus chewing gum wrappers. And I want to add an aftermarket aerial mast at some point - the present one is jammed.

Best of luck with fitting the new clusters! Mine has Lockwood aftermarket white dials already fitted with green illumination.

http://www.lockwoodinternational.co.uk/ima..._gt4_import.jpg
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QUOTE (Veilside01 @ Oct 15, 2010 - 8:45 AM) *
>Hi guys, following this thread with interest. smile.gif

I've already cleaned out my shifter base - found a couple of coins plus chewing gum wrappers. And I want to add an aftermarket aerial mast at some point - the present one is jammed.

Best of luck with fitting the new clusters! Mine has Lockwood aftermarket white dials already fitted with green illumination.

http://www.lockwoodinternational.co.uk/ima..._gt4_import.jpg



Thanks! Great looking gauges you've got there. I like the speedometer a lot. biggrin.gif
Here is where I'm at...

STOCK USDM CLUSTER..






ST205 EUROPEAN CLUSTER....
So part of me feels like I should just put the rpm gauge and speedo into my USDM housing. Would be a lot easier. I have no need for the boost gauge right now or anytime soon. Its more of a novelty to have the whole ST205 cluster in there? but I guess I really don't need any other parts of it but the speedo and tach...
Bammmm just talked to the member I purchased it from and its a Japanese cluster. I'll re-pin it for that and see how it works!
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 15, 2010 - 8:26 PM) *
>So part of me feels like I should just put the rpm gauge and speedo into my USDM housing. Would be a lot easier. I have no need for the boost gauge right now or anytime soon. Its more of a novelty to have the whole ST205 cluster in there? but I guess I really don't need any other parts of it but the speedo and tach...


mate,
i can make you a picture of my JDM speedo connectors - ok it's a gt, but should be ok for the speedometer and tacho....

Dimitri
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QUOTE (cyprus_gt @ Oct 15, 2010 - 4:03 PM) *
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QUOTE (jcbass7 @ Oct 15, 2010 - 8:26 PM) *
>So part of me feels like I should just put the rpm gauge and speedo into my USDM housing. Would be a lot easier. I have no need for the boost gauge right now or anytime soon. Its more of a novelty to have the whole ST205 cluster in there? but I guess I really don't need any other parts of it but the speedo and tach...


mate,
i can make you a picture of my JDM speedo connectors - ok it's a gt, but should be ok for the speedometer and tacho....

Dimitri


Dimitri,

That would be awesome! biggrin.gif That would give me something to reference it with. How's the new cluster treating you? I love the new one you had put together for you, looks amazing!
Well I got closer. I re-pinned it to the Japanese cluster specs and most of it works. There are still a few problems..

-Speedo starts off at 70km/h (is at zero when car is off)
-water temp gauge maxed out
-boost gauge maxed out
-fuel gauge pegged at zero

But, the blue LED's look great as well as the orange LED turn signals.

PICS:

my guide to go from stock to European to Japanese




off




on

Soooo close!! Just some more work man! It looks great.

taking too long to mod since '09June '12 COTM'95 AT200
It looks so good at night with the orange turn indicators and the blue cluster. I can't snap a picture to show you how nice it is, but anyone who has put LED's in their cluster knows what I am talking about. I need to figure out whats wrong with the gauges because its clocking up the mileage fast since it thinks when I'm driving at 5mph im doing 60....

anyone know where to get the wiring diagram for a japanese ST205? I need to compare the combo meter wiring with what I have done myself (from the sticky thread)

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Oct 15, 2010 - 8:58 PM
ok...as i promised here the links of the fotos of my Automatic st202 speedo - JDM (i don't wanet to fill it up your thread with these fotos so you can see it here:

first one from left to right at the back of the speedo:
http://vwfreak.snimka.bg/automobiles/toyot...278199.21061609

second one - one side:
http://vwfreak.snimka.bg/automobiles/toyot...278199.21061619

second one other side:
http://vwfreak.snimka.bg/automobiles/toyot...278199.21061621

number 3 from left to right at the back of the speedo:
http://vwfreak.snimka.bg/automobiles/toyot...278199.21061622

nuber 4 from left to right at the back of the speed:
http://vwfreak.snimka.bg/automobiles/toyot...278199.21061607

i hope to help this fotos

cheers

Dimitri

This post has been edited by cyprus_gt: Oct 16, 2010 - 4:56 PM