Is our car faster than a 7th gen gt? I was just looking at the specs and they only have 10 more hp than us(gt) and we have about 10 more Tq. So does anybosy know which is faster assuming that both were being driving my equal drivers. If im wrong on the specs can someone clarify. >>

-Toyota_guy31783+Nov 14, 2003 - 2:11 AM

I beat my cousin's a 7th gen GT AUTO, with my ST MANUAL by a little over a car length. Both of us just have intake and exhaust. He has a AEM CAI with a TRD exhaust, and I have an INJEN short ram, with a Sebring exhaust.

-idriveatruckWTF+Nov 14, 2003 - 7:34 PM

-97sccelica+Nov 15, 2003 - 12:05 AM

-Kwanza+Nov 18, 2003 - 10:08 PM

-97sccelica+Nov 18, 2003 - 11:36 PM

ok i have and ST auto and i have gotten my as handed to my buy bother 7gc.. and trust me when i tell you i know how to drive the right way...so i really don't think that when you match up any 7th to 6gc. it will be faster (unless your swaped or boosting or spraying)... just my 2 cents..

Hey guys,
I just feel sorry for you in the states.
I have a curren (ST206) with a 3S GE engine with about 180bhp stock and a GT4 (ST205) with 260BHP stock.
7th gen Celica is crap. smaller car just made to get market share from hondas and mostly targets young ladies that want to match the color of the car with their fionger nails.
I am ashame for you. You should not even discuss power and speed for cars less than 250 bhp. Having a curren for 5 years, i bought my GT4 when an bmw X5 passed me on the freeway and all the 180 bhp of the car and all the effort i put into it and i could not even match the acceleration of that oversized boat.

With the GT4 though that a completely different story. No one has dared so far get bme in the freeway.

-neoklis+Dec 4, 2003 - 7:49 AM

Really if you guy's are going to talk about raceing and power, go get a real car like a camaro, corvette or a bmw ... this is sad. This is almost as bad as the honda sites.

-Digndoug+Dec 4, 2003 - 12:40 PM

-Kwanza+Dec 4, 2003 - 12:57 PM

-Uppitycracker+Dec 4, 2003 - 4:00 PM

Through experience...

0 to 60, the 6th gen (uk spec) is fatser than the gen 7 (uk spec)

60 to 100, the gen 7 makes up the ground what with the lift and all.

Both cars max out at about 145mph (Gen 6 was in front >> >> >> >> )

Simmo >>

I have posted this before. My girlfriend OWNS a 7th Gen GTS(auto) i drive it all the time...there so sluggish. When you stomp it it goes no where...untill 6k RPM then it really opens up.

At a stop light..me and my mods and my girl and her CAI to about 50mph I whopped her ass and not just by a little either(we have gone at it like 3 times) call me a liar but Ive never posted BS on these sites to get attention. The 6gen is more responsive to a full foot on the gas, I know if we raced to 100mph she would get me but I know from multiple times of racing Im glad I own mine.

BTW i have an auto.

What Kwanza said but first hand.

This post has been edited by 5sfeTurbo: Dec 15, 2003 - 12:24 AM

According to what I have read on other pages, the GT-4 (6th gen) spanks the ass of the 7th gen GTS. As the guy put it:

The GTS takes a good driver to know just when to accelerate through a corner. If it's not done properly, you loose traction.

HOWEVER, with the GT-4 you just lay on the accelerator and let the differentials distribute the power wherever it is needed or not. Takes much of the effort out of racing, but who cares? Plus, you have hella more power through the straighs of the course, and we know who is going to own there.

EDIT: I went to get hard evidence for this, but celica.net takes FAR too long to load. Which is the reason I am not on there very often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by FallenHero: Dec 15, 2003 - 12:45 AM

-5sfeTurbo+Dec 14, 2003 - 9:22 PM

-Simmo+Dec 14, 2003 - 4:31 PM

hmm interesting discussion.
well i know definately US 6gens are weak as hell, it's like a sports car for girls.
but the 7gen is not as great as kawnza said.
definately in the US, 7gens are better than 6 gens
but esle where, i dont think so.
note that higher models of 6 gens also have vvti
and the GT4 is much better than the 7gen gts
GT4 is made for ralley and when the turbo kicks in, it's far greater than the vvti
so on track def. the GT4 can outrun a GTS

i think its better for more GT4 owners to talk about this topic

and i guess it is a lil sad talking about racing with puny hp us model celicas. but thats cuz the usmd sucks. the real 6 gens are much better cars.

i like camaros n corvettes, but i think j-spec cars are better in design and performance, consider they last hella long.

This post has been edited by poix: Dec 15, 2003 - 3:07 AM

I just want to tell some of you guys on here that have posted thank you.. you'll made me laugh... i need that... It just makes me wonder how many have really done what ya'll have said... i have an ST auto and gotten my ass handed to me buy a 7gc .. don't know if it was a 5spd or not...

for anyone one that has spend time on a race try will tell you HP isn't everything .. yes it is ever important... but if you just have HP and don't have a car made for that amount of HP your don't have shift.... they 7gc is a great car i have always liked it... looks and performace... if you don't like the looks of the car thats one thing...but if your going to knock the performence drive it for a few days in deffrent situations.. and please don't say "so and so i know has one and it's this or that... unless you have one and driver it everyday don't talk..

as for the engines on the car i will take a 2zzge or even 1zzfe over my 7afe simple it cause it's a much impoved engine... just like the 7afe is better then the 4afe... toyota impoves what they have... they don't make it wosre.. and as for torque less zz engine .. no vvti is not torque less don't get caught up with numbers on a paper...

vvti gives you power when needed .... at low and high rpms.... it's gives you a nive even non jerking power at low rpm and snap your head back got to get the way out of the way of that truck at high rpms... just like v tec something honda took from the motorcycles and implanted them in to their cars..