Ok so I know that importing GT-4's is illegal, but what about taking a junker 6gc and throwing the GT-4 engine, trans, bumber, hood, etc is that illegal or legal for the U.S.A
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really?..... seriously?!
QUOTE (1994Celica @ Jan 9, 2010 - 7:37 PM) 
>Ok so I know that importing GT-4's is illegal, but what about taking a junker 6gc and throwing the GT-4 engine, trans, bumber, hood, etc is that illegal or legal for the U.S.A
really?..... seriously?!
You are allowed to put all of that on/in your car. Some states require inspections that the motor (3S-GTE) may not pass for various reason. The transmission is an all wheel drive transmission, so you are better off finding a different tranny. The most popular choices are the S54 (the Celica GT manual transmission) and the E153, which came in the MR-2 and V6 Camry's. But the GT-Four front end conversion is all over this website. Several members have put the GT-Four hood and bumpers on their cars.
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Ya Im serius and thanks because I plan on doing that soon as I get some money
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So why is it illegal to import a gt4
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QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jan 9, 2010 - 8:01 PM)
>So why is it illegal to import a gt4
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I can be a little slow sometimes and this is one of those times explain please....
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QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jan 9, 2010 - 8:01 PM)
>So why is it illegal to import a gt4
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I can be a little slow sometimes and this is one of those times explain please....
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I think they either dont meet safety or emission laws
QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jan 9, 2010 - 9:13 PM)
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I can be a little slow sometimes and this is one of those times explain please....
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QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jan 9, 2010 - 8:01 PM)
>So why is it illegal to import a gt4
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I can be a little slow sometimes and this is one of those times explain please....
I think they either dont meet safety or emission laws
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Emissions
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
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And nothing can be done to change any of this like putting a cat , etc?
QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jan 9, 2010 - 9:50 PM)
>Emissions
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
And nothing can be done to change any of this like putting a cat , etc?
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what do you mean by markers and power and lighting
QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jan 9, 2010 - 9:50 PM)
>Emissions
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
what do you mean by markers and power and lighting
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I know someone that can get them in the states but for around 10 to 14 grand with a title, but there is a wait for finding one thats in good shape.
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yeah add all dat suff and make it legal or no ?
QUOTE (1994Celica @ Jan 9, 2010 - 8:53 PM)
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what do you mean by markers and power and lighting
QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jan 9, 2010 - 9:50 PM)
>Emissions
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
Safetly
Lighting
Markers
Power
Bumper standards
what do you mean by markers and power and lighting
yeah add all dat suff and make it legal or no ?
Emissions: Japan has stricter emissions than us so a gt4 would pass the sniffer test no problem. it's the lack of an egr valve, and with a visual inspection in some states-the car can be failed. i believe the UK has an egr valve, but usually engines are imported from japan when buying here in the states.
Safety: in other countries, the glass (sides, rear and windshield) doesn't have the thin layer of nylon that makes the glass spiderweb on impact like here in the states. also there is no documented crash testing done for the gt4.
Lighting: different cut pattern to be more effective for a right hand driver.
Everything can be corrected with a doner car but there are other issues of concern- registering and insuring to name two. (use the SEARCH button)
This post has been edited by Fate: Jan 9, 2010 - 9:10 PM
Safety: in other countries, the glass (sides, rear and windshield) doesn't have the thin layer of nylon that makes the glass spiderweb on impact like here in the states. also there is no documented crash testing done for the gt4.
Lighting: different cut pattern to be more effective for a right hand driver.
Everything can be corrected with a doner car but there are other issues of concern- registering and insuring to name two. (use the SEARCH button)
This post has been edited by Fate: Jan 9, 2010 - 9:10 PM
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so basically geting a junker celica and putting everything in it to make it as close to one as possible would fix everything
QUOTE (Fate @ Jan 9, 2010 - 10:09 PM)
>Emissions: Japan has stricter emissions than us so a gt4 would pass the sniffer test no problem. it's the lack of an egr valve, and with a visual inspection in some states-the car can be failed. i believe the UK has an egr valve, but usually engines are imported from japan when buying here in the states.
Safety: in other countries, the glass (sides, rear and windshield) doesn't have the thin layer of nylon that makes the glass spiderweb on impact like here in the states. also there is no documented crash testing done for the gt4.
Lighting: different cut pattern to be more effective for a right hand driver.
Everything can be corrected with a doner car but there are other issues of concern- registering and insuring to name two. (use the SEARCH button)
Safety: in other countries, the glass (sides, rear and windshield) doesn't have the thin layer of nylon that makes the glass spiderweb on impact like here in the states. also there is no documented crash testing done for the gt4.
Lighting: different cut pattern to be more effective for a right hand driver.
Everything can be corrected with a doner car but there are other issues of concern- registering and insuring to name two. (use the SEARCH button)
so basically geting a junker celica and putting everything in it to make it as close to one as possible would fix everything
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Yes. Talk to pipes, or look his profile up here. That's what he did. He turned a 94? GT into a GT4, AWD and everything just by importing a GT4 clip, and installing all those parts into a USDM model Celica.
The reason it's not legal is mainly because of the crash testing data for the GT4 that America doesn't have. But feel free to import a fully working GT4 and swap all the parts into a GT. The other thing you can do (HIGHLY ILLEGAL) is import a working GT4, and then swap the VIN numbers from your GT to your fancy new GT4 and then just throw your GT in the crusher. But this is terribly illegal, and if caught, you can get really messed up / they can just take your car away.
This post has been edited by Ruroniarc: Jan 9, 2010 - 10:17 PM
The reason it's not legal is mainly because of the crash testing data for the GT4 that America doesn't have. But feel free to import a fully working GT4 and swap all the parts into a GT. The other thing you can do (HIGHLY ILLEGAL) is import a working GT4, and then swap the VIN numbers from your GT to your fancy new GT4 and then just throw your GT in the crusher. But this is terribly illegal, and if caught, you can get really messed up / they can just take your car away.
This post has been edited by Ruroniarc: Jan 9, 2010 - 10:17 PM
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Buy a LHD then
Plenty of them in Germany and Italy for example
QUOTE (Fate @ Jan 9, 2010 - 10:09 PM)
>Lighting: different cut pattern to be more effective for a right hand driver.
Buy a LHD then
Plenty of them in Germany and Italy for example
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Because it wasn't intended for sale in the US, and has not gone through the proper crash and safety tests. Car manufactures and the government are very strict about this for some odd reason.
You can still sneak one in if you have enough money and the right connections, but most 6gc members are young and broke.
QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jan 9, 2010 - 8:01 PM)
>So why is it illegal to import a gt4
Because it wasn't intended for sale in the US, and has not gone through the proper crash and safety tests. Car manufactures and the government are very strict about this for some odd reason.
You can still sneak one in if you have enough money and the right connections, but most 6gc members are young and broke.
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really? now i learned something. i though all GT4's were RHD.
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I agree.
I know the ST165 and the ST185 are available in LHD. Both domestically and in certain parts of Europe.
However, I was under the impression that the ST205 was RHD only. I have never seen a factory LHD version.
QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 10, 2010 - 3:40 PM)
>really? now i learned something. i though all GT4's were RHD.
I agree.
I know the ST165 and the ST185 are available in LHD. Both domestically and in certain parts of Europe.
However, I was under the impression that the ST205 was RHD only. I have never seen a factory LHD version.
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I've seen a couple of pictures of LHD GT4's. They aren't as common though.
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I inquired with same canadian brokers that import gt4s on how much it would cost to import a gt4 from italy where one lhd model was up for sale on ebay auction. I was quoted a price that is almost double what it would cost to import a rhd model.
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that would be the best way haha.
QUOTE (Ruroniarc @ Jan 9, 2010 - 10:17 PM)
>The reason it's not legal is mainly because of the crash testing data for the GT4 that America doesn't have. But feel free to import a fully working GT4 and swap all the parts into a GT. The other thing you can do (HIGHLY ILLEGAL) is import a working GT4, and then swap the VIN numbers from your GT to your fancy new GT4 and then just throw your GT in the crusher. But this is terribly illegal, and if caught, you can get really messed up / they can just take your car away.
that would be the best way haha.
Or wait until 2018 when it can be imported legally, and without all the jazz done. Funny i think...btw, im talking about the 25yr rule.
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Just because it will be open for importation does not mean that it will get imported. By that time Canada would have won their fight to revoke 15 year rule and institute 25 year rule and consequently spike up importation costs. When us brokers get a hold of this they will start asking 30 grand for the car or 15 if you have really good negotiating skills but then of course good luck finding a 94 gt-4 in a good condition.
In year 2019 average gt-4 would probably be retired, scrapped etc so there would be nothing left to import.
Such is the story of a unicorn that is gt4 celica.
In year 2019 average gt-4 would probably be retired, scrapped etc so there would be nothing left to import.
Such is the story of a unicorn that is gt4 celica.
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That depends on where youre looking them from. Japan - RHD, UK - RHD. Rest of the world - LHD.
Although now that the EU has made importing easier, the RHD´s have started to land in LHD countries, like mine.
But as I look from the finnish webpage for cars on sale, 5 ST205. 3 of them are RHD, 2 LHD.
QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 10, 2010 - 4:15 PM)
>I've seen a couple of pictures of LHD GT4's. They aren't as common though.
That depends on where youre looking them from. Japan - RHD, UK - RHD. Rest of the world - LHD.
Although now that the EU has made importing easier, the RHD´s have started to land in LHD countries, like mine.
But as I look from the finnish webpage for cars on sale, 5 ST205. 3 of them are RHD, 2 LHD.
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GT4. I have just imported one from Japan. I live in Canada and I guess it was legal to import here since last Feb. Right now I am just waiting for it to clear customs and get all of its inspections. Also compliance tests are on the way. Many people don't think its worth getting, insurance is supposedly really hard to get for any right hand drive vehicle. This is actually not true. The liability portion is fine, you should be paying as much as any other LHD vehicle you purchase in the US or Canada. However for collision coverage and comprehensive, you will need an appraisal done and also underwriting approval for this.
GL for anyone importing. Maybe you can import to Canada first if you have a source here, and then drive it down or ship it to the US.
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GL for anyone importing. Maybe you can import to Canada first if you have a source here, and then drive it down or ship it to the US.
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haha couldn't have said it better...GT4 ftw...driving on the right side became 2nd nature after a few days
QUOTE (schmooot @ Jan 13, 2010 - 8:22 PM)
>makes me proud to be Canadian. Finally something that we can get that Americans can't get...usually its the other way around
haha couldn't have said it better...GT4 ftw...driving on the right side became 2nd nature after a few days
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QUOTE (schmooot @ Jan 13, 2010 - 11:22 PM)
>makes me proud to be Canadian. Finally something that we can get that Americans can't get...usually its the other way around
Well most americans that is ..
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