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johnnehh
#1
Is it bad to "bounce off" the rev limiter every once and awhile? Could it do any serious damage?

Also, where can I get a decent aftermarket rev limiter that I can manually set?

Thanks
1996 Toyota Celica GT (GT4 conversion) -SOLD :(2002 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro -Daily Driver
terbear4god4life
#2
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QUOTE (johnnehh @ Dec 24, 2009 - 8:21 PM) *
>Is it bad to "bounce off" the rev limiter every once and awhile? Could it do any serious damage?

Also, where can I get a decent aftermarket rev limiter that I can manually set?

Thanks


bee-r!!!

it cuts ignition so fuel is dumped throws flames pretty sick but i don't have the cash to throw down for it
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
Random_Stranger
#3
What do you mean by "Bounce Off" the rev limiter? Do you mean like where it should cut off, you go past it? Because, even though it is a rev limiter, it isn't going to stop you right dead at that rpm, it is going to jump past it and then come back and be held around there. I hope that is what you mean, if not then I just looked like a huge idiot. Anyways if that is it, I can't imagine it being more worse on your car than red lining every gear as often as possible. It is still a car that is prone to wear.
91 MR2 Turbo SW20, 92 MR2 Turbo SW20, 95 Celica GT ST204
Mstoochn
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QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Dec 24, 2009 - 2:10 AM) *
>What do you mean by "Bounce Off" the rev limiter? Do you mean like where it should cut off, you go past it? Because, even though it is a rev limiter, it isn't going to stop you right dead at that rpm, it is going to jump past it and then come back and be held around there. I hope that is what you mean, if not then I just looked like a huge idiot. Anyways if that is it, I can't imagine it being more worse on your car than red lining every gear as often as possible. It is still a car that is prone to wear.



uhuh... i missed the part where our cars had a rev limiter.... must be ecu controlled.. oh wait, i dont have an ecu.
o.0 8500 redline what?! lol
terbear4god4life
#5
mine don't got no stock rev limiter that's for sure but the bee-r is fully adjustable and also has a 2-stage launch control
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
808celica
#7
are you in neutral or in a gear? anyways why would you beat you car like that?
I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
pittfirefighter
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QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ Dec 24, 2009 - 5:13 AM) *
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bee-R-Ignit...=item20aa9adb2c

not 1500 more like 350 ni have no idea why that ones up for 1500 lol



its a bulk order.... $1500 gets you 10 of them

EDIT: just watched the vids... this may be one of the dumbest things i've ever seen... it cuts ignition therefore throwing super rich... those pistons would be black as coal

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Dec 24, 2009 - 5:18 AM
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Random_Stranger
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QUOTE (johnnehh @ Dec 24, 2009 - 12:27 AM) *
>Jeeez. It's $1,500 for the Bee-R

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bee-R-Rev-L...sQ5fAccessories

That's insane!

The flames out of the exhaust is sick though.

Is there anything that does the same thing... Minus a thousand dollars or two? laugh.gif



LOL Yeah! Just don't clean anything, run rich and let it go so it could start "camming".

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Dec 24, 2009 - 5:36 AM
91 MR2 Turbo SW20, 92 MR2 Turbo SW20, 95 Celica GT ST204
whatthe
#11
Whats the damage will this do to the engine?

This post has been edited by whatthe: Dec 28, 2009 - 8:55 AM
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JustinCapps
#12
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QUOTE (whatthe @ Dec 28, 2009 - 9:55 AM) *
>Whats the damage will this do to the engine?


think about it, if your dumping fuel into your car, its going to toast everything up.
yes the flames are cool but i dont think this is good for a daily driver. i mean you would be wasting so much more money on gas smile.gif
HaysoosKreesto
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 24, 2009 - 3:35 AM) *
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QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Dec 24, 2009 - 2:10 AM) *
>What do you mean by "Bounce Off" the rev limiter? Do you mean like where it should cut off, you go past it? Because, even though it is a rev limiter, it isn't going to stop you right dead at that rpm, it is going to jump past it and then come back and be held around there. I hope that is what you mean, if not then I just looked like a huge idiot. Anyways if that is it, I can't imagine it being more worse on your car than red lining every gear as often as possible. It is still a car that is prone to wear.



uhuh... i missed the part where our cars had a rev limiter.... must be ecu controlled.. oh wait, i dont have an ecu.
o.0 8500 redline what?! lol

I love how you through that in lol. Doesn't your car redline at 6800 then rev is set at 8500?
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Mstoochn
#14
my 5s-gte? It redlines at 8500 Lol it makes power all the way until 8200, limiter is set to 9grand

This post has been edited by Mstoochn: Dec 30, 2009 - 5:04 PM
johnnehh
#15
Jeez. My rev limiter is at about 6250. Hahaha.

And when I say "bounce off" I mean rev it to the point where it can't go past the rev limiter and you can hear the rev limiter going off.. But only for a second.
1996 Toyota Celica GT (GT4 conversion) -SOLD :(2002 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro -Daily Driver
Mstoochn
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QUOTE (johnnehh @ Dec 30, 2009 - 6:13 PM) *
>Jeez. My rev limiter is at about 6250. Hahaha.

And when I say "bounce off" I mean rev it to the point where it can't go past the rev limiter and you can hear the rev limiter going off.. But only for a second.


Yea I have the same **** at 8700 the engine begins to go into a post power state u lose power and things get noisey lol
HaysoosKreesto
#17
wow, I'm suprised you can do that on a 5s. Actually, I saw that you drove a GT-S, and naturally assumed it was 7th gen lol, which is why I asked about the rev limiter on yours. Didn't notice the '96 part tongue.gif.
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richee3
#18
Like Random_Stranger said, letting your car bounce off the rev limiter is no worse than redlining in every single gear. The rev limiter is there to protect your engine. The thing about the 5S though, why would you let it rev that far? In my own personal experience, and I'm sure there are a great many people on here who agree with me, after a certian point the motor just loses power. I never drive my GT all the way to redline. It accelerates quicker if you shift early and let it rev in the meat of the power band. Then again, I haven't driven my car that hard in a long time. Just change your oil a little more often and you should be fine.
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Mstoochn
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 30, 2009 - 7:14 PM) *
>Like Random_Stranger said, letting your car bounce off the rev limiter is no worse than redlining in every single gear. The rev limiter is there to protect your engine. The thing about the 5S though, why would you let it rev that far? In my own personal experience, and I'm sure there are a great many people on here who agree with me, after a certian point the motor just loses power. I never drive my GT all the way to redline. It accelerates quicker if you shift early and let it rev in the meat of the power band. Then again, I haven't driven my car that hard in a long time. Just change your oil a little more often and you should be fine.


Its a forged bottom end with a High performance valve train and street cams.. my baby can handle it tongue.gif
richee3
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 30, 2009 - 7:36 PM) *
>Its a forged bottom end with a High performance valve train and street cams.. my baby can handle it tongue.gif


Off topic, but did I read somewhere that you are going to the Tail of the Dragon run? I gotta have a ride in that car. I'll, um, give you a ride in my GT in return.

Back on topic.
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Mstoochn
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 30, 2009 - 6:41 PM) *
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 30, 2009 - 7:36 PM) *
>Its a forged bottom end with a High performance valve train and street cams.. my baby can handle it tongue.gif


Off topic, but did I read somewhere that you are going to the Tail of the Dragon run? I gotta have a ride in that car. I'll, um, give you a ride in my GT in return.

Back on topic.


pay me for gas? lol i'm brining a fuel cell just to get down there on 1 tank. and there's no back seats anymore, sorry bra.

i thought that was just open discussion? lol
pittfirefighter
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 30, 2009 - 7:14 PM) *
>Like Random_Stranger said, letting your car bounce off the rev limiter is no worse than redlining in every single gear. The rev limiter is there to protect your engine. The thing about the 5S though, why would you let it rev that far? In my own personal experience, and I'm sure there are a great many people on here who agree with me, after a certian point the motor just loses power. I never drive my GT all the way to redline. It accelerates quicker if you shift early and let it rev in the meat of the power band. Then again, I haven't driven my car that hard in a long time. Just change your oil a little more often and you should be fine.



haha thats not good for your car either... just because it can go to redline doesn't mean you should do it... its like saying... well slamming on the brakes and skidding and then dropping my clutch and taking off at every redlight is ok cause my car can do it... yes it can do it but you shouldn't all the time... you're beating up on critical engine parts... bouncing off the rev limiter once or twice isn't going to hurt a thing... thats why its there... doing it consistently is a recipe for blowing up your engine
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Mstoochn
#23
i agree. altho my engine wil rev past 8k, it hasn't seen past 6500 since It was dyno tuned. I just know i still got another 1700 tongue.gif
spitfiremk16
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 31, 2009 - 3:08 PM) *
>i agree. altho my engine wil rev past 8k, it hasn't seen past 6500 since It was dyno tuned. I just know i still got another 1700 tongue.gif


The 5sfe is noted to have connecting rod bolts that are only about 5/16 diameter which is a little on the small size for an engine like this, because of the small diameter of the bolts they tend to stretch under high load(rpms) which can occasionally cause an engine with a few miles on it to spin a rod bearing. I've heard of this happening to several people even with the stock 6200 rpm rev limiter in place.
Mstoochn
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QUOTE (spitfiremk16 @ Dec 31, 2009 - 11:35 PM) *
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 31, 2009 - 3:08 PM) *
>i agree. altho my engine wil rev past 8k, it hasn't seen past 6500 since It was dyno tuned. I just know i still got another 1700 tongue.gif


The 5sfe is noted to have connecting rod bolts that are only about 5/16 diameter which is a little on the small size for an engine like this, because of the small diameter of the bolts they tend to stretch under high load(rpms) which can occasionally cause an engine with a few miles on it to spin a rod bearing. I've heard of this happening to several people even with the stock 6200 rpm rev limiter in place.



thats why you upgrade wink.gif AND DONT CHEAP OUT!
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