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Topic #69447 100 posts Started by yellowchinaman
you need any contributions to get this project up and going? If so I say we all pitch in, you've done tons for this site...plus I want one now!!! lol
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QUOTE (kagemidnight @ Sep 27, 2009 - 1:41 PM) *
>you need any contributions to get this project up and going? If so I say we all pitch in, you've done tons for this site...plus I want one now!!! lol



Thanks for the offer but we're good on this.
The project is up and running. The reason why you need to wait is because the first batch being made are all sold out on pre-orders to other club members in the UK and to some retailers.

Second batch should be ready in 2 months time so even if I wanted to I cant get one to you any sooner.
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QUOTE (OOBE @ Sep 26, 2009 - 6:50 PM) *
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QUOTE (808celica @ Sep 26, 2009 - 1:07 PM) *
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QUOTE (OOBE @ Sep 26, 2009 - 6:41 AM) *
>Who cares about the price? That thing is sweet. I am IN! biggrin.gif

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Im broke kindasad.gif


You have plenty of time to save up bro but if by the time they're ready you don't have money, I'll cover you. smile.gif


laugh.gif No need man biggrin.gif Saving for my Vegas trip. Priorities tongue.gif laugh.gif

I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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QUOTE (808celica @ Sep 27, 2009 - 4:38 PM) *
>laugh.gif No need man biggrin.gif Saving for my Vegas trip. Priorities tongue.gif laugh.gif

Awesome. tongue.gif I was going to Vegas back in April but my buddy had some problems so we had to cancel. Bummer. Gosh, I can't wait for this thing. It'll look awesome since my car will have a new paintjob. Plus, I'll be the only once in Puerto Rico with that part. biggrin.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
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very solid prodcut, but adjustability in the front is it really necessary??

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 28, 2009 - 11:54 PM) *
>very solid prodcut, but adjustability in the front is it really necessary??


Mainly needed for precision installation.
You see when we tested different strutbraces in different cars we found variations in the positioning of the firewall bolts.
Probably due to the difference in engine weights and suspension setups. eg the heavier 3sgte compared to the 3sfe.
Quite often the braces where pushed hard left or righ or wedged into place and this can cause slight changes in your alignment.
What the adjustble rods offer an easier install and less strain in the structural formation reducing warp.
So im guessing the adjustability would make it a little more expensive, alright thanks for the explanation.

Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle partshttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 29, 2009 - 5:51 PM) *
>So im guessing the adjustability would make it a little more expensive, alright thanks for the explanation.



Hmmm... never thought of it that way.
This being the only adjustable brace in it's class.
It's grade in Alu and thickness.
Only one in it's class with a corrected point to point brace where it should be.
Still cheaper then C-One, TRD and Cusco of the same type.
being able to adjust it also allows you to be put reverse torque on it... on a solid piece... once its installed there will still be a small amount of play between the bars and the bolts and the mounting location... this makes it easier to install (otherwise you would be trying to install a bolt that was just "a little bit off the hole")... when you have an adjustment.. you can fit the piece and then expand it til its actually creating pressure on the bolts BEFORE the tension (rocking of the car) creates the pressure... in high performance this is a great attribute over non adjustable... everyday driving will really not notice any difference though... but some of us do have 6gcs that are not everyday drivers wink.gif only thing is... the over piece you removed this idea from... frown.gif it shouldn't be too bad because if installed correctly you have pressure coming from the weight of the car when you pull your jack but adjustable would be better....

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Oct 1, 2009 - 11:10 PM

Breaking Axles...
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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Oct 2, 2009 - 12:08 AM) *
>only thing is... the over piece you removed this idea from... frown.gif it shouldn't be too bad because if installed correctly you have pressure coming from the weight of the car when you pull your jack but adjustable would be better....



Hi pitfighter. I didnt quite understand what you meant about this bit sorry.

Other notes.
The adjustable rods have counter locking nuts which stops it from moving after.
We aim to fabricate products for track users mainly where performance is more important then syling and our main target audience in the UK are mostly Toyota Sprint Series racers which are featured in Bansai magazines every month.
Most people would settle for a regulare 2 point strut brace which does help for road use and for looks but once on track your car does go through alot of structule strain. The 6G isn't actually as rigid as what most people think.
If you are a track user, wanting to win you must always thinka about safety, strength, weight and performance.
The current prototype currently weighs 3.5kg.
The final produc was redesigned to be stronger then the prototype and lighter at an estimated weight of 3kg or less.
just a comment that adjustable strut to strut would be better, but it is not as much of an impact as the adjustable strut to firewall...

Breaking Axles...
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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Oct 2, 2009 - 10:49 AM) *
>just a comment that adjustable strut to strut would be better, but it is not as much of an impact as the adjustable strut to firewall...


I see I understand now.
We have thought about that too.
At the moment the only strut to strut available for the 6G is the C One 2 point with the adjstable mid bar to extend and shorten the middle rod. However it was not made to fit the GT4 because it was basically too weak like a branch twig.
The problem we found with this was:
a) Under extreme cornering the load is way too much for the middle rod and quite often when set to hard the threads very quickly wear and is not sustainable.
b) By extending and shortening the strut to strut can actually warp the frame and change the camber of the wheels in the long run.
c) Very easy to install incorrectly causing A+B problems so rather then making a complicated accessory work, simply use a solid fixed corrected length. You can have the wheels aligned before strut fitment and not change camber after fitting or you can have alignment made after fitting. Both works without any worries.
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I've been getting PM's asking if this is still going ahead.
The answer is a definate yes.
They are being made at this moment.
Though the first batch is already sold, the second batch will be ready hopefully by December in time for xmas. If not then January.

Ray
updates?

Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle partshttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514
maybe keen, will see when its released, looks solid though.
Definitely let me know of the price. I'm intetrested. I live in the US

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 21, 2010 - 3:43 AM) *
>updates?


First batch was all sold out to some private buyers and foreigh retailers based on pre-pay.
They're arriveing this or next week then to be dispatched.
If there are (and that's a BIG IF) there are some spare, we'll post some up on ebay so keep an eye out.

Not going to show you the final pics but here's a look at the development.






Also we've started development into a matching rear 3 point brace. Here's the template.

This is just the template. In no way does a standard 1 inch steel rod can be strong enough for a serious track user. The actual products will be similar to the front 3 point with a lot of GIRTH. biggrin.gif
price of the rear...? im in
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QUOTE (chacha @ Jan 22, 2010 - 11:19 AM) *
>price of the rear...? im in


Waaaaay to early to price it yet untill we've ordered all the materials in.
Here's a pic of mine. (excuse the origional purple middle hub. I kept it on from the prototype.)



how much is thid in us dollars?
Very Nice Product! I was thinking of getting the c-one 3 point but I think I like this one better. Any more available?
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QUOTE (lilgreenyoda @ Sep 26, 2009 - 6:03 PM) *
>Do you have the ability/willingness to ship to the United States? If so...

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Does it improve the turning and such ? If so how much ?
updates for the N/A version. for the 3S-GE and 5SFE/7AFE please.

Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle partshttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514
i would like to buy both. let me know when i can..