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flyinglizard
#61
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 25, 2009 - 6:43 PM) *
>Rather than making a new thread...ordering KYB GR-2 struts and probably S-Techs. Provided that I don't break the sway bar end links, this is all I need right?


Good choice. Yes that's all you need.
Spider77
#62
When it comes to the endlinks, PB Blast those things and let it really soak in. I had one come off fine, but the other wound up getting rounded out. Thinking about getting new endlinks anyways (or sway bars...as the cost might come close to the same...I think).
SwissFerdi
#63
Thanks flyinglizard. I'm still considering going with Eibach Sportlines just for the increased drop, not sure if 1.4 and 0.9 is enough. kindasad.gif

Thanks Spider, I appreciate that. I figure I can get them off okay...but if they do break, I'm pretty much effed until I replace it, right? So it might be safer to have a few just to be sure. Have your springs settled any, BTW? And are you happy with the performance & looks? Your should be just a bit lower in the front than a lowered ST, since your engine's heavier.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 25, 2009 - 7:48 PM
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
Spider77
#64
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 25, 2009 - 7:43 PM) *
>Thanks flyinglizard. I'm still considering going with Eibach Sportlines just for the increased drop, not sure if 1.4 and 0.9 is enough. kindasad.gif

Thanks Spider, I appreciate that. I figure I can get them off okay...but if they do break, I'm pretty much effed until I replace it, right? So it might be safer to have a few just to be sure. Have your springs settled any, BTW? And are you happy with the performance & looks? Your should be just a bit lower in the front than a lowered ST, since your engine's heavier.

Well, I like it so far. Again, a bit bouncy (the springs had a bit of "play" in them before I installed). I dont expect to see much settling as its been less than a month. As far as performance, I like it. Can take corners easier now. Have not really pushed it though, as I want to rebuild the rest of the suspension....At least new endlinks/sway bars, bushings, etc....
If you happen to round out the endlink, you can just take a pair of alligator vice grips, and grab the opposite end (right before the boot) with them. Thats what I had to do.
SwissFerdi
#65
Okay. I think they're pretty much the most popular spring choice, so I guess people aren't wrong.
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
samir0189
#66
how do you round out the endlinks? There is a hole in the endlink bolt for a 5mm allen/hex key, hammer it in there and use an open ended wrench to get them off.
◊◊◊My F/S Thread!◊◊◊QUOTE(14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out.QUOTEFerdi says (11:29)No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
Spider77
#67
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QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 25, 2009 - 10:08 PM) *
>how do you round out the endlinks? There is a hole in the endlink bolt for a 5mm allen/hex key, hammer it in there and use an open ended wrench to get them off.

Thats what I did, the passenger side came off fine, but the driver side not so much.
samir0189
#68
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QUOTE (Spider77 @ Nov 26, 2009 - 7:30 AM) *
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QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 25, 2009 - 10:08 PM) *
>how do you round out the endlinks? There is a hole in the endlink bolt for a 5mm allen/hex key, hammer it in there and use an open ended wrench to get them off.

Thats what I did, the passenger side came off fine, but the driver side not so much.


Ok then, sorry, lol
◊◊◊My F/S Thread!◊◊◊QUOTE(14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out.QUOTEFerdi says (11:29)No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
SwissFerdi
#69
I can't wait to put this shtuff in. biggrin.gif My baby needs the drop. I need to do some more research, but I think I have it down, at least what I need to do. I'll be doing this with my brother, and he'll bring a hydraulic jack and stands from a friend...so it shouldn't be too difficult. Funny thing is, my dad's fully against it since he was quoted 600 for his '08 A4, just because apparently the axles have to be removed...he didn't even want to listen to the process of how it's done.

Can't wait!

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 26, 2009 - 3:13 PM
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
nics
#71
yes they are side specific. those ones are for the rear. for the front inserts it doesnt matter unless u get the full strut assembly.


2 front 334378-334379 complete struts, 2 Rear 334125-334126

365092 front cartridge shocks

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SwissFerdi
#72
I was planning on getting the entire strut assembly, front and rear, just to be safe. Thanks man, I appreciate that. So the individual fronts and rears are interchangeable, or is each specific to a corner?

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 27, 2009 - 3:47 PM
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
nics
#73
each is specific to a corner.
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windowlicker
#74
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 26, 2009 - 3:12 PM) *
>I can't wait to put this shtuff in. biggrin.gif My baby needs the drop. I need to do some more research, but I think I have it down, at least what I need to do. I'll be doing this with my brother, and he'll bring a hydraulic jack and stands from a friend...so it shouldn't be too difficult. Funny thing is, my dad's fully against it since he was quoted 600 for his '08 A4, just because apparently the axles have to be removed...he didn't even want to listen to the process of how it's done.

Can't wait!


i'm need lift!
SwissFerdi
#75
Nics, I just noticed you posted the front part numbers as well...I really appreciate that. I was looking for them and just found them this afternoon. rolleyes.gif

Eibach Sportlines or Tein S-Tech? I want a noticeable drop and I'm not sure if the Teins are enough (looking at hurley97 and 97lestyousay, it seems to be). I do want to 'feel' the drop, I don't mind a rougher ride...just not Megan rough. 1.4" is the minimum I want to drop, but the Sportlines' 1.5" all around sounds better than the S-Tech's 1.4" front and .9" rear.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 29, 2009 - 10:27 PM
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
nics
#76
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 29, 2009 - 2:21 PM) *
>Nics, I just noticed you posted the front part numbers as well...I really appreciate that. I was looking for them and just found them this afternoon. rolleyes.gif


why make a such a big deal about posting it up? rolleyes.gif
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SwissFerdi
#77
Because I was confused about the part numbers and didn't realize you had posted the fronts as well, so I looked and found the info on another site.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 29, 2009 - 11:13 PM
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
CelicaST_CALI
#78
Do you have to have a spring compressor to do this job??
BANNED. for life, you moron.
nics
#79
you can loan it at autozone
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SwissFerdi
#80
That's the plan...looks like a $33 deposit. Not bad.
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
nics
#81
tnx for giving the price!
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SwissFerdi
#82
No problem brosef.

Does anyone here know the spring rates for the Sportlines? I can't find it anywhere. S-Techs are 3.9KG in front and 2.2 in the rear.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 30, 2009 - 4:47 PM
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
nics
#83
it says progressive springs

http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/suspension-springs.html

still confusing for me cuz trd springs claims that the spring rates are 4.1f, 2.9r and the TRD springs are just rebranded eibach pro-kit which also described as progressive springs

This post has been edited by nics: Nov 30, 2009 - 5:43 PM
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LewFX
#84
you dont need a spring compressor...it isnt necessary but for safety when taking off the old strut top nuts
nics
#85
but mounting the springs yes.
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LewFX
#86
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QUOTE (nics @ Nov 30, 2009 - 2:58 PM) *
>but mounting the springs yes.


no
samir0189
#87
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QUOTE (LewFX @ Nov 30, 2009 - 5:44 PM) *
>you dont need a spring compressor...it isnt necessary but for safety when taking off the old strut top nuts


thats not good advice to give people, really. I am sure it can be done without the compressors but why take the chance, they rent them for free. If these people get injuries from following your (lack of) advice im sure they'll be looking for you. EDIT: perhaps with one eye. lol laugh.gif kindasad.gif

This post has been edited by samir0189: Nov 30, 2009 - 8:23 PM
◊◊◊My F/S Thread!◊◊◊QUOTE(14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out.QUOTEFerdi says (11:29)No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
flyinglizard
#88
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QUOTE (LewFX @ Nov 30, 2009 - 6:44 PM) *
>you dont need a spring compressor...it isnt necessary but for safety when taking off the old strut top nuts


+1
I borrowed a spring compressor from a friend out of fear of injury, only to discover that it was utterly pointless. I only used it for one of the springs, and for the others the top nut only sprung off the mount about 6 inches. Our stock springs are under very little compression when not installed on the vehicle. There are a few youtube videos on spring installations that show what happens when you don't use a spring compressor.

It isn't necessary, but do what you please.
CelicaST_CALI
#89
i love danger...no compressor it is biggrin.gif
BANNED. for life, you moron.
nics
#90
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QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 30, 2009 - 5:19 PM) *
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QUOTE (LewFX @ Nov 30, 2009 - 5:44 PM) *
>you dont need a spring compressor...it isnt necessary but for safety when taking off the old strut top nuts


thats not good advice to give people, really. I am sure it can be done without the compressors but why take the chance, they rent them for free. If these people get injuries from following your (lack of) advice im sure they'll be looking for you. EDIT: perhaps with one eye. lol laugh.gif kindasad.gif


yep! if you dont care about yours, at least be concerned of other peoples' safety wink.gif
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