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Topic #67207 38 posts Started by domyz
is that true about the steering rack being different? isnt there something u can just flip around or use a mix of parts?

does this mean malpaso didn't keep superstrut?


man... losing superstrut isnt a big problem, though it does help reduce understeer, but just dont use GT struts on a GT4, you would need to get ST202/ST204 front coilovers and ST205 rear coilovers.

Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
Reviving this idea...

So, the flood of cheap st205 GT4's are here in Canada. Plus, you can find a decent LHD 6gc car for pretty cheap.

If doing the conversion, would everything from the st205 bolt directly to the North American LHD 6gc? I guess what I'm trying to say is if doing the swap, I would essentially use the RHD imported st205 as the donar car. Then, put all those parts onto the clean LHD North American car.

Will everything plug and play?

I'd much rather use the LHD car as the base car for the conversion since the VIN is easier to work with and it will be A LOT easier to insure.

So... RHD ST205 to be completely ripped apart to be used as the donar. Will everything plug and play into the North American 6gc?


THANKS!
everything that is flipped between a LHD and RHD needs to be reversed. Firewall, wiring needs to go the other way, and rack and corresponding suspension (depends how you want to do it), MAYBE some hardlines even your dash, A/C, a lot of parts and everything inside that needs to be flipped. look at what you have and look at a LHD and see what needs to be reversed. Its a lot of work really.

I'd rather use a LHD too and then convert to a 3sgte. Going the other way around is tedious. its doable but its going to be based on your knowledge or someone else, money, labor, parts.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Aug 22, 2012 - 12:26 AM

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I wouldn't be touching the interior, no? I would want to keep everything LHD and just swap over the powertrain and drivetrain from the RHD GT4 donar. Importantly, does the regular North American spec LHD 6gc have provisions for the rear subframe of the GT4 to fit? How about clearance for the drive shaft?

I guess my previous post was a bit confusing. I want it to be LHD (using the North American car) but bolting all the ST205 goodies to it (awd, 3sgte, etc...)

Not so much a RHD to LHD conversion. But more like using a base North American LHD car, then bolting all the ST205 goodies to it. Will this work? Mainly concerned about the rear subframe though... possibly suspension mounting points.
Sorry to bump this topic, but I didn't want to start another one.

I'm thinking about doing this too with a (JP) GT-Four ST205 and a (US) GT ST204

looking at prices, buying the ST205 from japan runs about 3-5 grand and buying the ST204 isn't too hard.
both cars i'm looking at are 1994. Is anyone here from southern california?

I was debating on doing this conversion or buying an old mk3 supra and do a 1JZ swap, but I figured a celica would be less of a headache.
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QUOTE (a_maniago @ Mar 18, 2013 - 8:57 PM) *
>Sorry to bump this topic, but I didn't want to start another one.

I'm thinking about doing this too with a (JP) GT-Four ST205 and a (US) GT ST204

looking at prices, buying the ST205 from japan runs about 3-5 grand and buying the ST204 isn't too hard.
both cars i'm looking at are 1994. Is anyone here from southern california?

I was debating on doing this conversion or buying an old mk3 supra and do a 1JZ swap, but I figured a celica would be less of a headache.



im in So Cal, so what are you trying to accomplish? a LHD AWD Celica or a RHD GT4? I have a fab shop that can do the swap for you but be prepared to spend $$$ one way or another its going to be expensive. I think the cheaper route is to buy one of those ST205 clips that comes with the rear end and convert a USDM to AWD

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 19, 2013 - 9:14 AM) *
>im in So Cal, so what are you trying to accomplish? a LHD AWD Celica or a RHD GT4? I have a fab shop that can do the swap for you but be prepared to spend $$$ one way or another its going to be expensive. I think the cheaper route is to buy one of those ST205 clips that comes with the rear end and convert a USDM to AWD


LHD AWD Celica by tearing down the ST205 and putting everything into the ST204 effectively keeping the VIN# etc for easier registration, etc

After doing a lot of research after my last post (and not sleeping last night), I've concluded that this is a semi-impossible dream in the US, especially California.

So first I looked up importation laws. Since the ST205 specifically was not released in the US in any way, shape, or form I don't think it will be approved.
To keep explanations short and concise, as quoted from AllTrac.net by gt4st205

"One way is VERY expensive, very long, and i wouldn't recomment it. What you'd have to do is provide 4 ST205's to the us government to crash test, they don't have to be running, but the engine blocks and seats(with seat belts) need to be in place. this is not the smartest route because you need to pay for shipment of all the cars, as well as the price for crashing the cars.

"If you have a relative or trusted friend in Canada you can ship it to them, have them register it. It would get a canadian VIN, which then could be transfered to the states.

"The easiest way (and cheapest) is to ship it to the states as a "track car". to do this you need to fit it to certain retrictions that are required with a US registered style of racing, such as roll bar, racing seats, fire surpression, and harnesses. the one downfall to this is that you'd need to wait untill the car is 22 yrs old to be able to drive it on the road."

Another method he didn't mention is transfer the parts I would want for conversion, namely, the engine, tranny, etc. (separately unfortunately, which will be costly)

I could go through Canada since my cousin lives in BC, Canada.

Maybe I'll do this with the All Trac 1992 Celica instead, since it was available in the US market.


But hey if I ever change my mind whats the name of your shop?
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 19, 2013 - 7:14 AM) *
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QUOTE (a_maniago @ Mar 18, 2013 - 8:57 PM) *
>Sorry to bump this topic, but I didn't want to start another one.

I'm thinking about doing this too with a (JP) GT-Four ST205 and a (US) GT ST204

looking at prices, buying the ST205 from japan runs about 3-5 grand and buying the ST204 isn't too hard.
both cars i'm looking at are 1994. Is anyone here from southern california?

I was debating on doing this conversion or buying an old mk3 supra and do a 1JZ swap, but I figured a celica would be less of a headache.



im in So Cal, so what are you trying to accomplish? a LHD AWD Celica or a RHD GT4? I have a fab shop that can do the swap for you but be prepared to spend $$$ one way or another its going to be expensive. I think the cheaper route is to buy one of those ST205 clips that comes with the rear end and convert a USDM to AWD



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QUOTE (a_maniago @ Mar 19, 2013 - 12:55 PM) *
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 19, 2013 - 9:14 AM) *
>im in So Cal, so what are you trying to accomplish? a LHD AWD Celica or a RHD GT4? I have a fab shop that can do the swap for you but be prepared to spend $$$ one way or another its going to be expensive. I think the cheaper route is to buy one of those ST205 clips that comes with the rear end and convert a USDM to AWD


LHD AWD Celica by tearing down the ST205 and putting everything into the ST204 effectively keeping the VIN# etc for easier registration, etc

After doing a lot of research after my last post (and not sleeping last night), I've concluded that this is a semi-impossible dream in the US, especially California.

So first I looked up importation laws. Since the ST205 specifically was not released in the US in any way, shape, or form I don't think it will be approved.
To keep explanations short and concise, as quoted from AllTrac.net by gt4st205

"One way is VERY expensive, very long, and i wouldn't recomment it. What you'd have to do is provide 4 ST205's to the us government to crash test, they don't have to be running, but the engine blocks and seats(with seat belts) need to be in place. this is not the smartest route because you need to pay for shipment of all the cars, as well as the price for crashing the cars.

"If you have a relative or trusted friend in Canada you can ship it to them, have them register it. It would get a canadian VIN, which then could be transfered to the states.

"The easiest way (and cheapest) is to ship it to the states as a "track car". to do this you need to fit it to certain retrictions that are required with a US registered style of racing, such as roll bar, racing seats, fire surpression, and harnesses. the one downfall to this is that you'd need to wait untill the car is 22 yrs old to be able to drive it on the road."

Another method he didn't mention is transfer the parts I would want for conversion, namely, the engine, tranny, etc. (separately unfortunately, which will be costly)

I could go through Canada since my cousin lives in BC, Canada.

Maybe I'll do this with the All Trac 1992 Celica instead, since it was available in the US market.


But hey if I ever change my mind whats the name of your shop?



Im doing this whole thing right now. PM me if you guys want to come see all the issues and how Im overcoming them.

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