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Topic #65776 28 posts Started by pittfirefighter
ok so i just got my projectors in and i took them apart... the right hand projector has the cutout just like the left hand does... they are not Right hand drive or left hand drive... also look at the pic in the how-to for LHD use... the lens is a convex lens... which means the image would be rotated 190*... the "cutoff" portion is actually towards the center of the car and is found on both sides... just a little info i thought i might add... so US guys.. no reason to break open your projectors unless you want to paint them like me.... smile.gif smile.gif

Breaking Axles...
They are for right hand drive.

the beam flicks up on the left hand side for people who drive on the left.

-LukeMy Flickr
would you read what i just said... it does not flick up on the left hand side... the housing for the left and right hand sides are identical...

Breaking Axles...
heres the best i can do without taking my projectors back apart... i will also get some pictures of the light output against a wall without modifying the projectors...

this is of the driver side (US) from the how-to.... this is looking at the projector from the front.... the image (light) will get flipped 180* once it passes through the convex lens following this cutoff... therefore this is used to limit the vertical distance from the ground that is projected... giving you the line... once its rotated... the "cutoff" portion will be toward the center of the car... not on the outside like other people seem to think...


Breaking Axles...
i totally understand what you mean but like luke they do light up higher in the beam on the road towards the left side. My us cars light up more on the right hand side. Not sure why its like that but I have no intention of modifying mine - keeping it as is.

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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Feb 25, 2009 - 6:21 PM) *
>heres the best i can do without taking my projectors back apart... i will also get some pictures of the light output against a wall without modifying the projectors...

this is of the driver side (US) from the how-to.... this is looking at the projector from the front.... the image (light) will get flipped 180* once it passes through the convex lens following this cutoff... therefore this is used to limit the vertical distance from the ground that is projected... giving you the line... once its rotated... the "cutoff" portion will be toward the center of the car... not on the outside like other people seem to think...



Have you actually been in a car with unmodified projectors?? Let me tell you from experience, they are for right hand drive. The projector lens works just like your eyeball, whatever goes through gets inverted. So with the pic above, the low point would be bottom right, making the high point of the light top left when flipped as it goes through the lens. So the cutoff that was added at the bottom right actually cuts the light output on the top left down to a flat line with the rest of the cutoff.

I have the remnants of my projector sitting here from my accident and just looked through the lens to verify even. They are NOT LHD, they are NOT center justified. They are RHD, nuff said.

This post has been edited by Fastbird: Feb 25, 2009 - 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (Fastbird @ Feb 25, 2009 - 11:48 PM) *
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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Feb 25, 2009 - 6:21 PM) *
>heres the best i can do without taking my projectors back apart... i will also get some pictures of the light output against a wall without modifying the projectors...

this is of the driver side (US) from the how-to.... this is looking at the projector from the front.... the image (light) will get flipped 180* once it passes through the convex lens following this cutoff... therefore this is used to limit the vertical distance from the ground that is projected... giving you the line... once its rotated... the "cutoff" portion will be toward the center of the car... not on the outside like other people seem to think...



Have you actually been in a car with unmodified projectors?? Let me tell you from experience, they are for right hand drive. The projector lens works just like your eyeball, whatever goes through gets inverted. So with the pic above, the low point would be bottom right, making the high point of the light top left when flipped as it goes through the lens. So the cutoff that was added at the bottom right actually cuts the light output on the top left down to a flat line with the rest of the cutoff.

I have the remnants of my projector sitting here from my accident and just looked through the lens to verify even. They are NOT LHD, they are NOT center justified. They are RHD, nuff said.

X2.
----\____ that is the beam pattern.
it is made that way for LHD.
not that it matters. ive had mine in for YEARS with no issues at all.

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There are no OEM LHD projectors... if... just if... you really have LHD ones someone already converted them.

note: I had the same feeling when I saw them inside... but do tot forget lens of projector converting it... so beam is mirrored.

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QUOTE (presure2 @ Feb 26, 2009 - 10:47 AM) *
>not that it matters. ive had mine in for YEARS with no issues at all.





That's because you never pass yourself going the other way laugh.gif

-LukeMy Flickr
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Feb 26, 2009 - 6:47 AM) *
>X2.
----\____ that is the beam pattern.
it is made that way for LHD.
not that it matters. ive had mine in for YEARS with no issues at all.


Freudian slip there buddy???? laugh.gif

I had mine unmodified since we put them in and never received a flash from oncoming traffic. The ONLY reason why I'm modifying them at this point is because I'm putting an HID kit in the car and would rather not take any chances with screwing with oncoming traffic.

This post has been edited by Fastbird: Feb 26, 2009 - 11:18 AM
I got projectors and I too had to modify them.

I've never seen projectors for LHD.

This post has been edited by geetje: Feb 26, 2009 - 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (Fastbird @ Feb 26, 2009 - 5:18 PM) *
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Feb 26, 2009 - 6:47 AM) *
>X2.
----\____ that is the beam pattern.
it is made that way for LHD.
not that it matters. ive had mine in for YEARS with no issues at all.


Freudian slip there buddy???? laugh.gif

I had mine unmodified since we put them in and never received a flash from oncoming traffic. The ONLY reason why I'm modifying them at this point is because I'm putting an HID kit in the car and would rather not take any chances with screwing with oncoming traffic.



With normal bulbs - you may be able to get away with it, but with HID - its dangerous when blinding on coming traffic. X2 - needs to be modified to be safe.
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QUOTE (Fastbird @ Feb 25, 2009 - 11:48 PM) *
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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Feb 25, 2009 - 6:21 PM) *
>heres the best i can do without taking my projectors back apart... i will also get some pictures of the light output against a wall without modifying the projectors...

this is of the driver side (US) from the how-to.... this is looking at the projector from the front.... the image (light) will get flipped 180* once it passes through the convex lens following this cutoff... therefore this is used to limit the vertical distance from the ground that is projected... giving you the line... once its rotated... the "cutoff" portion will be toward the center of the car... not on the outside like other people seem to think...



Have you actually been in a car with unmodified projectors?? Let me tell you from experience, they are for right hand drive. The projector lens works just like your eyeball, whatever goes through gets inverted. So with the pic above, the low point would be bottom right, making the high point of the light top left when flipped as it goes through the lens. So the cutoff that was added at the bottom right actually cuts the light output on the top left down to a flat line with the rest of the cutoff.

I have the remnants of my projector sitting here from my accident and just looked through the lens to verify even. They are NOT LHD, they are NOT center justified. They are RHD, nuff said.




what you said proves my point... this is the FRONT of the projector... THINK ABOUT IT.... i wish i had a pic right now but the RIGHT HAND projector has the exact same cutoff...

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Feb 26, 2009 - 4:14 PM

Breaking Axles...
You're wrong. get over it

Of course both lights have the same pattern. They BOTH flick up on the left rolleyes.gif

-LukeMy Flickr
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QUOTE (manphibian @ Feb 26, 2009 - 4:15 PM) *
>You're wrong. get over it

Of course both lights have the same pattern. They BOTH flick up on the left rolleyes.gif



they both have a dip to the outside... if you don't understand physics please don't argue with me

Breaking Axles...
Whatever.

They are for RHD cars, whatever you say.

How is this not RHD?



I wouldn't want that in my face if i was driving on the right!

-LukeMy Flickr
ok thank you.. .but i just want to know the physics behind it... thats all... it shouldn't be like that in theory

Breaking Axles...
if somebody has a moment... while my projector is getting replaced... UPS broke the tabs off... could i see the light output of the left hand light ALONE unmodified... thanks!

Breaking Axles...
sorry, i meant right hand...gimme a break, it was 5:45am after being up with my daughter....lol
but yea, hid's or not, i dont have any problem with them, i've been flashed MAYBE 3 or 4 times in the years ive had them.

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QUOTE (presure2 @ Feb 26, 2009 - 11:55 PM) *
>i've been flashed MAYBE 3 or 4 times in the years ive had them.



maybe less for me...modding them isnt necessary at all
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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Feb 26, 2009 - 4:17 PM) *
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QUOTE (manphibian @ Feb 26, 2009 - 4:15 PM) *
>You're wrong. get over it

Of course both lights have the same pattern. They BOTH flick up on the left rolleyes.gif



they both have a dip to the outside... if you don't understand physics please don't argue with me


Not to be an a**, but if you don't understand refraction through a lens then you're arguing a moot issue. Of course it's got a dip to the outside, it's why the light ends up having a higher cutoff on the opposite side.
That, and the projectors are interchangeable, so they will have the same design and beam pattern on both sides.
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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Feb 27, 2009 - 5:24 AM) *
>That, and the projectors are interchangeable, so they will have the same design and beam pattern on both sides.



THANK YOU! THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY, but the cutoffs are mirrors of each other...

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Feb 27, 2009 - 8:27 PM

Breaking Axles...
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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Feb 27, 2009 - 5:24 AM) *
>That, and the projectors are interchangeable, so they will have the same design and beam pattern on both sides.


Actually, the housing with the cutoff in it is not interchangeable. I'm sitting with one right here next to me stamped R and there's obviously differences in the housing. Granted the cutoff in both is the same, but the only interchangeable part in the projectors would be the bulb housing and lens/retainer. The cutoff housing isn't interchangeable.
Not the housings, the projector modules.
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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Feb 28, 2009 - 12:11 PM) *
>Not the housings, the projector modules.


You're talking about the glass lens right?