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nics
#1
Hi guys! I'm planning to replace my head gasket..
Should I get the Metal or the Graphite? I've found a graphite head gasket set on Ebay

Are there any more parts I need replacing it? thanks

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Bitter
#2
get one from the dealer.
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Remy
#3
I don't trust ebay gaskets you don't want to cheap out on the head gasket heres the part number for 5sfe metal head gasket 11115-74120 don't forget to get new head bolts too.
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nics
#4
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QUOTE (Remy @ Jan 17, 2009 - 9:26 PM) *
>I don't trust ebay gaskets you don't want to cheap out on the head gasket heres the part number for 5sfe metal head gasket 11115-74120 don't forget to get new head bolts too.


ok thanks! checked the price out from 1sttoyotaparts. do i order it from toyota? part number pls. thanks
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Remy
#5
This is the part number for the oem head bolts you need 10 of them btw, make sure you do your research and get all the necessary gaskets and such good luck.

5sfe 2.2
-Cylinder Head Bolts (10x) -9010910132
-Cylinder Head Bolt Washers (10x) -90201-11026
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hatchy_gt-s
#6
many companies make full gasket kits for it i would buy one of them and replace all gaskets and o-rings

why r u replacing the head
if your rebuilding the head i would suggest doing the bottom side other wise you will hav problems later on down the road
1bwilson
#7
Get a gasket kit from Napa or some place like that and also get a dealer 98+ 5sfe headgasket. Make sure its 98+ or it wont be metal. Use the gasket kit for everything else besides the headgasket.
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nics
#8
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Jan 28, 2009 - 7:21 PM) *
>many companies make full gasket kits for it i would buy one of them and replace all gaskets and o-rings

why r u replacing the head
if your rebuilding the head i would suggest doing the bottom side other wise you will hav problems later on down the road


Its overheating. Too much pressure in the radiator. Pushes all the coolant out to the reservoir. I dont know much about rebuild stuff but how does rebuild work and how does it helps?


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QUOTE (1bwilson @ Jan 28, 2009 - 7:53 PM) *
>Get a gasket kit from Napa or some place like that and also get a dealer 98+ 5sfe headgasket. Make sure its 98+ or it wont be metal. Use the gasket kit for everything else besides the headgasket.


Yeah that was i was planning. It would be too much if i order it from Toyota.
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Smaay
#9
get a head gasket from a 99 camry. its a metal gasket. you dont need new washers but head bolts should be replaced.
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hatchy_gt-s
#10
wait you need to diagnose the problem before you start tearing things apart.

so u say its over heating and pushing the fluid bak into the res. all that sounds like is a new rad.
your rad. is prob. just clogged/damaged from old age, causing the fluid being pushed from the engine in to the rad. and when it gets stopped in the rad.it hits the overflow and returns to the res. causing your over heating.
nics
#11
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Jan 31, 2009 - 3:42 AM) *
>wait you need to diagnose the problem before you start tearing things apart.

so u say its over heating and pushing the fluid bak into the res. all that sounds like is a new rad.
your rad. is prob. just clogged/damaged from old age, causing the fluid being pushed from the engine in to the rad. and when it gets stopped in the rad.it hits the overflow and returns to the res. causing your over heating.


It pushes it out but it never returns inside. I always have a loss of coolant. I just flushed the radiator not too long ago.

Edit: Check this link http://www.jasperengines.com/pdf/5SFECoolantLeaksTB.pdf

This post has been edited by nics: Jan 31, 2009 - 8:04 PM
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blu94gt
#12
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QUOTE (nics @ Jan 31, 2009 - 7:01 PM) *
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Jan 31, 2009 - 3:42 AM) *
>wait you need to diagnose the problem before you start tearing things apart.

so u say its over heating and pushing the fluid bak into the res. all that sounds like is a new rad.
your rad. is prob. just clogged/damaged from old age, causing the fluid being pushed from the engine in to the rad. and when it gets stopped in the rad.it hits the overflow and returns to the res. causing your over heating.


It pushes it out but it never returns inside. I always have a loss of coolant. I just flushed the radiator not too long ago.

Edit: Check this link http://www.jasperengines.com/pdf/5SFECoolantLeaksTB.pdf


Can you see coolant leaking out the front of the motor where the picture shows? If it was burning off in the cylinders you would be smokin like hell driving down the road.

And if it's hitting the overflow I also have to agree with replacing the radiator. If it was just leaking out the head gasket then you would have coolant in the overflow and radiator just as normal. I vote for replace the radiator. Also check the thermostat, if it's stuck closed then you have one very easy cheap fix. My guess is the head has nothing to do with the problem.
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nics
#13
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QUOTE (blu94gt @ Feb 1, 2009 - 12:01 AM) *
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QUOTE (nics @ Jan 31, 2009 - 7:01 PM) *
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Jan 31, 2009 - 3:42 AM) *
>wait you need to diagnose the problem before you start tearing things apart.

so u say its over heating and pushing the fluid bak into the res. all that sounds like is a new rad.
your rad. is prob. just clogged/damaged from old age, causing the fluid being pushed from the engine in to the rad. and when it gets stopped in the rad.it hits the overflow and returns to the res. causing your over heating.


It pushes it out but it never returns inside. I always have a loss of coolant. I just flushed the radiator not too long ago.

Edit: Check this link http://www.jasperengines.com/pdf/5SFECoolantLeaksTB.pdf


Can you see coolant leaking out the front of the motor where the picture shows? If it was burning off in the cylinders you would be smokin like hell driving down the road.

And if it's hitting the overflow I also have to agree with replacing the radiator. If it was just leaking out the head gasket then you would have coolant in the overflow and radiator just as normal. I vote for replace the radiator. Also check the thermostat, if it's stuck closed then you have one very easy cheap fix. My guess is the head has nothing to do with the problem.


I have a little white smoke from the exhaust and my thermostat is stuck open. when i drive in the freeway, the temperature will drop down on the cold end and then as soon as i loose my coolant, it would start to rise and overheat.
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95celgt
#14
well if your car was turbo i would say it was just the head gasket, this happened to my first 3s, and my rx7(although rotarty=coolant seal on the compression side), all the water was being pushed out the block/radiator/ and it would then come out through the over flow......
92-gt
#15
I am having this same problem now on my 1992 celica GT. It has a new radiator as of a year ago, new water pump, timing belt, thermostat, etc.

I dont have any smoke from the exhaust, and i smelled the exhaust and it smells normal.

The oil is clean, the coolant is clean.

The fan works.

It isnt leaking anywhere on the engine.

It pulls fine through all RPM's.

It just drips from the overflow and therefore the radiator becomes low on coolant.

It doesnt have any signs of a failing head gasket though, so I have no clue what the problem is.....

Can anyone help?
bmj67
#16
I might have missed it but did you replace you radiator cap. Simple things can cause big problems
92-gt
#17
Yes, I replaced it a couple days ago..

I know the thermostat is newer, because I was there when the previous owner replaced it.

But I also know when he replaced the radiator, for some reason he also put stop leak in. Why he did it is beyond me.

I would say maybe the thermostat is sticking shut, but the lower hose feels like it is getting warm, although it isnt as warm as the top.

Could this cause it?

I have the metal head gasket, bolts, thermostat, thermostat gasket on the way from 1sttoyotaparts.com as well as a gasket kit for all other gaskets. I just wanted to have it just in case, but I want to make sure of what my problem is before I rip into it...
92-gt
#18
Any other ideas?
njccmd2002
#19
please dont hijack threads...

get it tested.
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trdproven
#20
Sometimes you have air in your system, feel you lower radiator hose if it gets hot, bleed the radiator coolant also.
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92-gt
#21
Hijack threads???

This thread was a few weeks old. I had a very similar problem as he did. I used the search option, and this was the closest thread I could find to my symptoms. I would think it would be better to post in a thread that is related to the matter than to make a new one...
nics
#22
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QUOTE (Remy @ Jan 17, 2009 - 10:26 PM) *
>I don't trust ebay gaskets you don't want to cheap out on the head gasket heres the part number for 5sfe metal head gasket 11115-74120 don't forget to get new head bolts too.


Has anyone actually done this before?
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pittfirefighter
#24
i am in the process of rebuilding three celicas right now... 2 5s-fe's.. let me know if you have any questions
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nics
#25
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QUOTE (dgbldr @ May 12, 2009 - 9:54 PM) *
>To both people with this problem:

You need to diagnose the problem before you go wasting a bunch of time and money replacing parts at random.

The easiest test is the internal leak test. Read this and see "internal leak test":

http://www.familycar.com/Classroom/CoolingSystem.htm


have done this already and confirmed it using this

http://www.arrowheadradiator.com/head_gask...n_leak_test.htm

need to replaca the radiator too because of the crack.
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nics
#26
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QUOTE (nics @ Jan 18, 2009 - 1:00 PM) *
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QUOTE (Remy @ Jan 17, 2009 - 9:26 PM) *
>I don't trust ebay gaskets you don't want to cheap out on the head gasket heres the part number for 5sfe metal head gasket 11115-74120 don't forget to get new head bolts too.


ok thanks! checked the price out from 1sttoyotaparts. do i order it from toyota? part number pls. thanks


btw, why do we have to change the head bolts if we replace the head gasket?tnx
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laff09
#27
headbolts are built to stretch once torqued properly the first time. You dont want to use them again
nics
#28
^^ i c. ordered em already. just waitn for it.
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56willysnut
#29
How did it turn out? I just finished up doing the same thing, mine was foaming out the radiator.
azn87
#30
sorry to steal thread but im juss had the same problem happen to me, but now i leaking oil mixed with coolant. And the other day i think thursday or friday is was over heating on me.
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