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Topic #64431 168 posts Started by Hafkai
Hi, after over a year of gathering parts my Celica finally is in the garage and gets her custom header, exhaust and some other stuff.
Yesterday we fitted the big Evo9 intercooler, i had to get the ST205 crash bar because the stock one is to tight, intercooler piping was done too and i'm very happy with it. I will use the stock ST205 air filter box, since there is not much space between the filter box and the engine, the IC piping is a little bit tricky but it looks like we found a good route.









The header will be done in the next days.



Short list of parts i'm using:
- Garrett T25 Turbo from a CA18DET
- Mitsubishi EVO 9 Intercooler
- E-manage Ultimate
- Innovate LC-1 Wideband
- ST202 3S-GE Injectors (372ccm)
- ST205 Fuel Pump
- Bosch Blow-Off from a Audi S3
- Custom Header and 3" Exhaust
- dozens of other small parts wink.gif
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Has it been on the dyno yet?
What's the power output?
Why didn't you just do a 3s-ge or 3s-gte swap?

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Holy hell!!! Is that massive intercooler really necessary on a 7A?? How much boost are you planning to run?

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
amazing job...

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QUOTE (Pollux @ Dec 27, 2008 - 1:24 PM) *
>Why didn't you just do a 3s-ge or 3s-gte swap?

Du bist der mit den Ultraleggeras, der öfter mal auf dem Eurospeedway unterwegs ist, stimmts?
(Not relevant to US-habitants... i apologize for writing german)


Joa der bin ich smile.gif
I'm not a big fan of the 3S-GE(except BEAMS biggrin.gif) and i dont want to swap the whole engine. The 3S-GTE is without a doubt the better base for power but i'm not looking for that much and 7A-FTEs are very rare in germany..

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QUOTE (hurley97 @ Dec 27, 2008 - 10:58 PM) *
>Holy hell!!! Is that massive intercooler really necessary on a 7A?? How much boost are you planning to run?


Absolutely not biggrin.gif, for some fun on the streets a much smaller intercooler would be enough, but i will use the car for trackdays and ~15min full throttle ask for something that is able to take the heat and release it fast enough, i think the Evo intercooler is a good choice for this job.
I don't plan to run much boost, 8 or max. 10psi on the track, the 7A may take more in daily driving with only short boost attacks.. but a racetrack is something different.
I have a small water to air that sits in the bay and it is awesome. But I also daily drive the car, I don't race it on the track. Although I'd have to say it would probably do better in longer and harder running conditions like highway or track use rather than around town or at slower speeds, reason being the increased amount/cooler air getting to the heat exchanger mounted in front. Water has a better cooling ability than air which is subject to the outside temperature. The w2a itself under the hood is ice cold after a highway run in the summer.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Dec 28, 2008 - 12:10 PM

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most efficient mounting of an intercooler to date. nice job.

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that would block the air to the radiator, yes?

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x2, wont the trackday benefits of the intercooler be offset by the fact that now your engine will be running alot warmer? i imagine the cooler air charge wont matter thing when the cylinders are surrounded by a piping hot water jacket 0.o
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 7:05 PM) *
>that would block the air to the radiator, yes?

not as much as your AC condenser does.

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QUOTE (enderswift @ Dec 28, 2008 - 8:45 PM) *
>x2, wont the trackday benefits of the intercooler be offset by the fact that now your engine will be running alot warmer? i imagine the cooler air charge wont matter thing when the cylinders are surrounded by a piping hot water jacket 0.o

um, no.
First, your AC condesor blocks air flow to the radiator more than anything. It's bolted directly in front of your radiator and are your cylinders surrounded by a piping hot water jacket ? nope.
Second, both the condensor and that IC have fins (just like a radiator) and air passes through them, hence cooling the coolant or air you have running through it. With his IC there is plenty of room for air to get through and around it to cool everything just fine.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Plus he has fans...



great 7afte build so far!!!Isnt 3" exhaust a lil big for a 7afte?

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Dec 29, 2008 - 12:23 AM

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haha you're right, completely forgot about the condenser rolleyes.gif
dont the cooling passages run between the cylinders? maybe waterjacket isnt the right term... ill check out what my haynes manual has to say


either way back on topic, nice setup thumbsup.gif

This post has been edited by enderswift: Dec 29, 2008 - 1:17 AM
Header is completed and the rest of the exhaust will be done this week.









thats some CLEAN exhaust work there
awwwww a cat frown.gif wheres the fun in that?

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QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jan 4, 2009 - 9:05 AM) *
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do you plan on not using the fans anymore ? it looks like it's going to be a tight fit....
I would of suggested putting them or at least one on the opposite side of the radiator but with that IC and the big horn there, might not be much room there either.

also, get a new radiator. Yours looks about 14 years old and with the excessive heat from that set-up you'll kill that one sooer than you think.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
I'll try to fit the stock fan on the other side of the radiator, if that doesn't work i'll get one or two Spal fans. They're much thinner, should fit without any problems.
The hot side of the turbo will get a heat shield, the header maybe too but i'm not shure about that.
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QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jan 5, 2009 - 11:19 AM) *
>I'll try to fit the stock fan on the other side of the radiator, if that doesn't work i'll get one or two Spal fans. They're much thinner, should fit without any problems.
The hot side of the turbo will get a heat shield, the header maybe too but i'm not shure about that.


It will work for sure wink.gif


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Got new pics, there are still some things to do but the engine should run this weekend.









Grat job mate,keep up the good work!!

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Nice work, looks like your project is coming along very clean.
i like the way how you fabricate the downpipe housing. Looks great...
IT'S ALIVE!! biggrin.gif

Today we finaly got everything done what's needed to let the engine run. After 10 minutes wondering why my E-manage and the starter don't work, my friend simply asked me "immobilizer??"... unbelievable how fast you can forget something like that laugh.gif
The engine runs a bit rich at idle and closed loop didn't worked, maybe a problem with the stock lambda probe. Tomorrow we put the car on the dyno and i try to set up the E-manage so that the car will run not too bad with boost, fine tuning will follow the next weeks.

Short video

and some pics






This post has been edited by Hafkai: Jan 19, 2009 - 7:16 PM
Dyno video smile.gif
First run with some engine knock because of too advanced ignition timing making the engine stutter above 5000rpm, i retarded the timing about 2-3° in the next runs.

nice figure...!! cant wait to see full dyno plot.
im watching the video but i also notice some knocking sound behind. Is that the engine knock sound you're refering to? Coz i can hear it even on low rpm and gradually increasing as ur rev up
The loud knocking sounds are from the dyno. The actual engine knocking isn't audible but you can hear that the engine doesn't rev freely in high rpm. Too bad i don't have a video from the other runs.