So i've been wondering fora long time now how is that toyota was not able to produce a powerful enough engine here in the U.S. to compete with honda. I mean how come honda was able to have 160 hp SI civics with b16 and b18 engines.The best the U.S. can come up is a 2.2 135 hp stock engine. How come they werent able to modify the 3sge with egr or w/e is necessary to pass U.S. emissions. Even it it had like 10 less hp. I mean i dont know if im just talking out of my butt or something but i want to know. Also, are the SS-III low and high beam headlights made out of glass??

All models have glass.

How about 177hp 3rd gen 3S-GE or 197-210HP 4th Gen 3S-GE BEAMS, 180 HP USDM version of the 197HP 2ZZ-GE? There are several 4cyl engines they made that are better than 160HP they just didn't choose to offer most of them here.
The short form I believe is the higher HP 4cyl offerings they did give us [200HP USDM ST-185 good enough?] didn't sell. The other thing is I don't think Toyota was worried too much about competing HP to HP with Honda - owners of both car makes may be worried about that competition but they didn't seem to be. Why should they?
But both two of those above were offered here - ST-165/185/SW20 3S-GTE and 2ZZ-GE.

Edit: Oh hell - I forgot about the 4A-GZE's too.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Oct 23, 2008 - 10:26 AM

its because they wouldn't sell, simple as that.

st185 was unsuccessful at 200hp, celicas doesn't have that "sports car" status, and the car itself is unpopular.

hmm oh ok so since the gt-4 5th gen celi didnt get much sales with such a potential engine they decided to not bring 3sge engine overseas here to the U.S. cause it would be a waste of money right.
Also, the celica was overpriced right or were they around the same price as the integra....

oh ok so all the headlights are made of glass i see thanks