What is considered 6th Gen related?

Obviously OEM 6th Gen parts are, but what about things that can be used on a 6th Gen?
Is a universal O2 sensor related? It can be used on one.
What about a case of Royal Purple engine oil?

How about a Mustang 70mm TB?
It's not for a 6th Gen at all, but it can be used on an aftermarket sidefeed manifold for a 3SGTE swap...

The reason I'm asking isn't to be facetious, I would like this seriously considered because I would like to put some tools up FS here. I originally put them in OT [I thought it belonged there, my fault], but they apparently don't belong there.
They aren't directly for a 6th Gen, but are definitely usable on one.
Tools in question.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=60135


Your thoughts on this are welcome; I would like to sort this out.

The reason i closed your thread was because of this rule under the OT stickies:

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Regarding the Mustang 70mm TB and other universal parts, i would refer to the buying & selling rules found in the sticky:

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See this says to me that anything related to 6 gen celicas and if they can work on celicas are fine too. it would seem to me that tools that can be used on 6 gen celicas would be find to post. Like would couldnt sell Standard tools on this forum because they wont fit on our cars, but Metric do, so why cant we sell those on here?

i think we need a buy/sell for non 6th gen items

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No, i agree that this should be a 6gen only site, if they do that its going to be a mess, but i revert back to my previous post

i think tools should be allowed in the Fs section..

Read what snapshot wrote ^^^


It was closed because it was in off-topic!

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So,if I can prove a 7th gen Wings West spoiler can fit on a coupe I can repost? sweet.

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i know well shouldn't he just unlock it and move it to the FS section??hmmm

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Nope.

The point is where do we draw the line if you allow tools in the FS section? Do we want to sift through "FS: Tool" posts when we're looking for car parts? Its not just a localized thing. If we allow one thread to run (although alltracman has good stuff to sell), everyone will have a tool to sell to make some extra cash. This is a make/model specific forum, not ebay.

I would be interested to hear Coomer's take on this.

FS:tool
"6-12 mm ratchet set"


i think that stuff like that should be allowed...It obviously is related to the celica...anything under 10$ with shipping should not be allowed...

but yeah obviously me need to see wat coomer thinks..

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jul 13, 2008 - 10:45 AM

Please keep this relaxed, it isn't a bitch thread, I'm trying to sort out what I see as an issue with the interpretation of a certain rule.

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I totally understand that.
This thread wasn't intended as a "why was my thread closed", but as a "hey can we do this" thread.


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To me that would apply to my tools as well. Both of the tools are DIRECTLY applicable to the 6th gen, and are relatively common tools that would be used on them. As someone already stated, I'm not trying to sell a set of standard wrenches, or a fuel line tool for a Ford.

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IMO this is directly applicable to the site.
I don't see there being that many tool FS posts [there aren't on any other Celica forum I've been on, even MR2OC doesn't have many in a much larger site with a special tool section...], and even if there were, why is that bad? You need tools to put the parts you buy on; if I or someone else has one better/cheaper than you can normally get locally, what's the issue?

I know I have a personal interest in this, but if someone is selling that 70MM TB that Itchy B wants for his RMR? intake manifold, or those AN fittings Shannon needs for her 5SFTE setup, or that 3" 304 SS exhaust piping Manny needs for his car, you have to "sift" through all those, yet my tools [and potentially others] are just as applicable and able to help someone modify, maintain or repair their 6GC.

I'm with Colin on this...this is not a place to come to buy tools...it's a place to come to buy sixth gen. Celica related parts. It's always been this way, and we plan to keep it the same.

I think a lot of the members on the site believe the for sale section needs some work....if you only allow members with a certain amount of post and so on to sell and then we allow tools what should it matter bc most of the other junk will be filtered out anyway but now you can at least somewhat trust the seller. I don't see a big deal if they are saving a member money down the line. So then the clothes that are on there should be closed bc its not like the celica is wearing them or that they directly relate to the celica(sorry griffgirl im just making a point)...the tools can be used on a celica and the argument can keep going...cant we take a vote or something since the for sale section is more for the members here with a celica...see what they agree on.

I'm not trying to cause any problems but there really are worst things then posting tools up. Im only cutting in bc I no alltracman is the last person to cause problems and I no he is trust worthy and has a good argument.

This post has been edited by supershannon77: Jul 14, 2008 - 4:27 PM

The point is that people don't come here to search for tools...if members want tools they know to go to eBay or many of the other sites online that sell tools. People come here to get stuff for their sixth generation Celica. This site has always been, is currently, and will be strictly for the sixth gen. Celica. I'm failing to see any clothes posts in the buying/selling forum, but if you're talking about 6gc.net shirts or something, that's something exclusive to this site that you just can't get elsewhere, and is sixth gen. related.

I realize that tools are indeed related to the sixth gen. Celica, but then again, most things can be in some way. One could argue that an iPod is related, because it can hook up to a stereo installed in a sixth gen. Celica, or that a digital camera is related because it can be used to take photos of a Celica. There's a certain threshold that we have to stick to, otherwise the forums will be polluted with miscellaneous stuff.

they y not start an off topic FS section....it would not clutter up to celica FS section at all..

This is going round in circles.

It's not ebay.

the end.

I am not here to start any problems I just rather give my money to a member here. Also I trust the members here way more then anyone on ebay but I cant argue your points.. thanks for your time tho.

Are aftermarket radios ok? I wanna sell mine thats why im asking.

This post has been edited by supershannon77: Jul 14, 2008 - 10:01 PM

I think this is a perfect example of one of the many rules on this site that makes absolutely zero sense.

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Yet another thing that really bugs me about 6gc. None of the input from members is ever taken into consideration. Its all "my way or the highway".

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That is completely untrue. This site has evolved so much over the years due to the input from members.

Also, why doesn't this rule make absolutely no sense to you? Keep in mind 6GC is a sixth gen. Celica website. And what would you suggest?

I think people just need a little more detail about what you mean in all of the rules...I agree, an off-topic F/S section would be nice though.

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You haven't been around much lately, Coomer. We've had people bring up issues with the site or things they would like to see change/evolve and those ideas are always greeted with a " if you don't like it, leave", followed by a quick lock of the thread. I'm sure that you might be an open minded guy, but keep in mind that things look differently from the point of view of someone who visits the site once a day vs someone who visits the site once a month.

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The guy is trying to sell some wrenches and a compression tester. Whats the harm in that? Those are two items that I personally think every 6gc owner should have.
Trying to micro moderate the f/s forum into things that do/don't apply to the 6gc is silly and quite frankly, doesn't make any sense. I can understand you not wanting this forum to become a flea market for someones baseball card collection, but a compression tester is far from that. Instead of sticking to the 6gc parts only rule... I think you should revise it to "car stuff".

This is the only car site I have ever been to that wouldn't let someone sell a compression tester and some wrenches.

This post has been edited by lagos: Jul 15, 2008 - 8:54 AM

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X2 on all counts

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thats bull art.
when people dont get theyre way, they cry and whine about it. dont change the fact that the rules are the rules, christian made them, just FOLLOW them.
its really that simple.
closed.