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Topic #52205 31 posts Started by y2komar
I am happy to say that I am finally starting my swap. I have a 94 GT 5sp.
I am putting a st185 jdm alltrak engine. I will be keeping my tranny to make the swap easier.

as I was reading the stickies on the swap i read that I should have gotten a clip. Well too late. I already bought the engine and most vital components. On the sticky post I read I need

engine
ecu
wiring harness
3rd ecu plug
afm
ignitor
coil
injector resistor pack
fuel pump resistor
fuel pump relay
turbo pressure sensor
air intake piping

well I don’t know if I have all parts so I took pictures of them and I hope you guys and girls help me labeling each one of them. I am hoping I have everything.




















This post has been edited by y2komar: Sep 19, 2010 - 4:24 PM
items in the order you posted them:
fuel pump
afm
2bar map
wiring harness fuse box
injector and fuel pump resistor box
igniter
coil
ecu

in that last pic your engine is missing timing belt tensioner, that piece with the hydraulic piston.

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items in the order you posted them:
fuel pump
afm
2bar map
wiring harness fuse box
injector and fuel pump resistor box
igniter
coil
ecu

in that last pic your engine is missing timing belt tensioner, that piece with the hydraulic piston.


Ok If I am following I guess I am missing

3rd ecu plug
fuel pump relay
turbo pressure sensor

am I missing anything else


on the last pic of the engine, I removed the belt, belt tensioner, waterpump, temostat, and as you can see all the covers.

This post has been edited by y2komar: Sep 20, 2007 - 11:45 AM
2bar map is the turbo pressure sensor.
fuel pump relay is on the side of the ecu, your good.
and if the wiring harness plugs into all the ports on the ecu than your alset.

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Thank you very much. I feel much better now, knowing that I have all vital parts for the swap.
I will continue to update as I continue with the swap. Thank you again.
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2bar map is the turbo pressure sensor.
fuel pump relay is on the side of the ecu, your good.
and if the wiring harness plugs into all the ports on the ecu than your alset.

Are you sure that is the turbo pressure sensor in the picture? It looks different than most to me.
I will soon start to order parts for the swap.
For those that have already done this; what do I need to start ordering.
I will also need the wiring done.
where should I start

This post has been edited by y2komar: Sep 21, 2007 - 11:42 AM
I started by removing the 3s wiring hardness. Damn plugs mad.gif
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I then started to remove the 5f engine so that I can send out the wiring. I will be instaling the gt ac so I tied the compressor without completely removing it so that I can just reinstall it into the 3s
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I went to a old school corolla swap meet and came by a used magnaflow muffler 3 inch inlet for 30 bucks.
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very nice find my friend^

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thats the muff i have. its great.

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thats the muff i have. its great.


x2 i love it

i think manny has it too, sounds awesome


Good job so far on the swap, have you orderd your clutch set up yet?
Also you should get your flywheel re-surfaced if its at all rusty etc. post a pic of it and we can tell you if it needs to be resurfaced

keep us updated and take pics! This site is how i got through my swap so i'd love to help you get through yours! biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Sep 26, 2007 - 3:21 PM
thanks
I will be posting more pics on this swap.
Today I was able to remove the 5f engine.
tomorrow I will remove the wiring hardness of the 5f put it together with the 3s and send it to get done.
once that is out of my hands I will have about 2 to 3 weeks before i get it back. On that time I will order the clutch and continute to get parts for the swap.

Thank you all for helping me out on this project. Right now I just got home from work and I am beat. More pics and questions will come as soon as i get a chance

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just throwing this out there.. something i wish i had done while my bay was empty..

CLEANED IT! like really clean it out nice etc.. im actually going to pull my engine so i can start tucking things etc. there are a lot of things you can do while the engine is out to make the bay look cleaner etc..

and if you plan on moving your battery to the trunk, now is a good time biggrin.gif
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just throwing this out there.. something i wish i had done while my bay was empty..

CLEANED IT! like really clean it out nice etc.. im actually going to pull my engine so i can start tucking things etc. there are a lot of things you can do while the engine is out to make the bay look cleaner etc..

and if you plan on moving your battery to the trunk, now is a good time biggrin.gif


you know what.... Thanks. Today I was just looking at the empty engine bay and saying to myself the same thing.

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For now I am kind of stuck. I got both wiring hardness out of both engines. I will be sending them out to dr. tweak as soon as I get a box to fit them in.
I was trying to put the termostat and water pump back but went looking for the O rings and no one around me had them. I will now go online and search for them.

here is a pic of both the 5f and 3s wires
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as for the battery I would like to move it to the trunk. Is there a special kit I need that you know about?
I love swap threads...good job so far. You're making great time!!

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you know what.... Thanks. Today I was just looking at the empty engine bay and saying to myself the same thing.

as for the battery I would like to move it to the trunk. Is there a special kit I need that you know about?


Here is what i did for the battery... I bought a decent set of 16 or 24 ft. jumper cables. the wiring on them was either 2 gauge or 4 gauge (I think 4). I cut off the clamps and snaked it through the car and firewall. Then i sauldered (do it the right way with flux etc) ends onto it so i could attatch it to the old battery bolts (right at the old terminal area up front). Then i attatched battery clamp things on the trunk side so i could hook it up in the trunk. I would also ground it in the trunk if you get a chance.

And be careful if you do it like this.... you have to make sure you REALLY cover up the connection up front REALLY wel, because mine frayed through the insulation (electrical tape) and the positive started touching the frame and kept shorting out my whole car.

I'll try to look for some pics if i get a chance...

Manny (presure2) did a nice install on his, i think there is a sticky for it.. he just used one power lead from the battery to the engine bay. He used speaker power cable like you would for running power to an amp.


Also:

http://www.speed-source.net/

go there and check out their shifter cable bushings, i like them, have had them on my swap since i did it. It would be a lot easier to swap them now than when the engine is in etc. but its still not that hard with the engine in..

anywho, about cleaning the bay up.. just take a look around and ask yourself "can i make that look better" and if you can, then do it. For example, if you can move something to hide it better (like the relay box) or wires etc. Its up to you how functional or practical you want your bay to be. But there is a lot you can do now that will make you happ you did later tongue.gif (you could clean off that subframe a bit and possibly paint the engine block etc... its all up to you tongue.gif )

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Sep 29, 2007 - 10:27 AM
I like the superman floor mat i have the same one!!

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jcbass. thanks for all the suggestions. I am deffenetly putting the battery on the trunk. It has no purpose in the front. I was looking on summit and I came by one that I liked. I like your idea but I would want a case to hide the battery.

supershannon damm you have good eyes

this week I will be very busy. I wont have a lot of time to work on the car. I will try to send the wires out to get done.
thanks
Plug and play wiring harness is on the way!!! smile.gif

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Got the harness? Update!
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Got the harness? Update!


Yeah.
Thanks Dr Tweak.
I got my harness today. Looks great.
I have been very busy with work and the fam.
As soon as I start putting everthing back together I will post updates.

Stay tunned biggrin.gif
Updates!!!
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update!


Sorry there has been no updates. There reason for that is because I have not done anything since my last post. Here in New York winter is cold and I could not bare to be out on my driveway messing with the car.

I just filed my taxes and I am getting some $CASH$ back. That translates to continue with this project.

As soon as It gets a little warmer and I get a chance to work on it I will continue to post.

Hopefully I get it done this summer.
no update. sold car. parts available

This post has been edited by y2komar: Sep 19, 2010 - 4:22 PM
hey guys im new here i was just wondering if i would be able to swap my 99 celica gt engine with a 3sgte engine? but the bad thing is i have an automatic.. kindasad.gif but if theres still any way to do it? also does anyone know if it will pass smog check in california??
Yes it can be done..The 3sgte has been swapped in all yrs and into gt's and st's I don't think the auto will take to it very well..but there are treads on auto to manual swaps...I no that it will fail smog test esp in cali i dont no how easy it is to pay someone of in cali either...Its a big investment and a lot of work there is a lot to be learned from stickies and previous swaps I would take some time and read...but I no passing inspection is real tough here in jersey cali has got to be much worse.

y2komar I am sorry your going to have to sell..but I hope you get a buyer and it al goes smooth for you.

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This post has been edited by y2komar: Sep 19, 2010 - 4:21 PM
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>hey guys im new here i was just wondering if i would be able to swap my 99 celica gt engine with a 3sgte engine? but the bad thing is i have an automatic.. kindasad.gif but if theres still any way to do it? also does anyone know if it will pass smog check in california??


I have an automatic transmission mated to a 3S-GTE from a JDM carlos sainz. I used a Powertrain Control Solutions trans controller to control the transmission. There are no non-electronic transmissions suitable to handle the torque generated by this engine. (they won't last longer than 4 weeks worth of driving).

On your compliance plate in your engine bay, what is the code of your transmission? A###E or A###L ?